Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

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hmmmn thats nothing new they just arrived to the part very late these upgrades have been offered by the US more than 15 years ago Hazrat @Zarvan

anyway for your derwaishy and mufakry Hazrat @Zarvan here is something more detailed on the AK

 

[Armani]

Hi all, Long time since I visited this thread.

Any updates on the selection/deal process? I think last I heard SCAR was touted as leading contestant for G3 replacement and 7.62x39 CZ BREN for replacing AKs.

 

[pzfz]

For GOD sake we knew price of SCAR H when we started trials so please stop giving this too expensive thing for Army to adopt.

you can keep screaming and still not make any sense. SCAR is an overpriced tool that PakArmy could do just as well without.

 

[Nasr]

Well I voted for CZ BREN2, lets see what Pakistan Army selects. Whichever one they do select, I hope its one which gives our soldiers an advantage over the enemy.

 

[Zarvan]

Kenyan security forces responding to #RiversideAttack CZ Bren 2 (7.62x39) and CZ Scorpion Evo 3 (9mm)

 

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Kenyan security forces responding to #RiversideAttack CZ Bren 2 (7.62x39) and CZ Scorpion Evo 3 (9mm)

Wah Hazrat @Zarvan

 

[Zarvan]

 

[monitor]

India have just ordered 750000 AK-203 for their army from Russia to replace insas rifle of army . Pakistan had short listed AK-103 as their one of candidate for replacing G-3 and Type-56 . but as India already given ordered for AK-203 AK-103 option for Pakistan has gone. best option for Pkistan might the either CZ-807 Bren 2 or FN SCAR.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Wabout Beretta ARX series???

India have just ordered 750000 AK-203 for their army from Russia to replace insas rifle of army . Pakistan had short listed AK-103 as their one of candidate for replacing G-3 and Type-56 . but as India already given ordered for AK-203 AK-103 option for Pakistan has gone. best option for Pkistan might the either CZ-807 Bren 2 or FN SCAR.

 

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Breaking news: CZ unveils new BREN 2 battle rifle in 7.62×51 (.308 Win)

Posted September 12, 2018 in Breaking News, Daily News, Defense, Product Announcement, Rifles by Vladimir Onokoy with 77 Comments
Tags: Beretta ARX-200, CZ 807, HK 417, SCAR-H, sig 716

Today, Polish military magazine MILMAG (https://www.milmag.pl/) released pictures of the new CZ Bren 2 variant chambered in .308 Win.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/TheMilMag2/

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Looking at the pictures, we can see at least one interesting improvement- new M-Lock handguard.

In 2016, in Pakistan, when I was first introduced to CZ 807 series, my first question was – why do you still have a quad rail when you can have Key-Mode or M-Lock?

CZ 807 assault rifle is very light to begin with, but a modular handguard is a sure way to make it even lighter and improve the balance. The leader of a CZ trial team answered “the time for that will come’. I am glad the time finally came.

CZ 807 with a quadrail

Author with a CZ 807 chambered in 7.62×39 in Pakistan

Currently, there is no official information available about this new Bren 2 variant, but since the cat is out of the bag, I guess I can share what I know.

In 2016, Pakistan army held trials for its service weapon replacement. You can read more about it here. One of the contenders was CZ, it entered the trials with two different weapons, CZ 807 and… CZ 807.

Those two weapons, despite having exactly the same name, were chambered in two different calibers, 7.62×39 and 7.62×51. The first one entered the trials right away, the second one was introduced later. Shortly after the 7.62×51 variant was demonstrated for the first time, I managed to take some pictures and for over two years never showed them to anyone.

As far as the performance of CZ 807 during the trials – I don’t think it is ethical to share such information publically without the approval of the manufacturer. I can tell two things for sure – with match .308 ammunition, CZ 807 was very accurate, demonstrating solid groups at 100 meters distance. Second – in 2016, the .308 version was on a very early stage of development and rifle probably improved a lot in the last two years.

As far as specs: magazine capacity of the 2016 version was 20 rounds, but according to a TFB reader Kovacs Jeno “magazine is 25 rounder, according to CZ demonstrators in Bzenec” (thanks!).

Rifle has a signature CZ adjustable folding stock, the ergonomics resemble that of an AR15 with an ambidextrous magazine release located under the tip of a trigger finger and bolt catch being on the left side of the weapon. The safety is also ambidextrous.

We will see how soon CZ will catch up with an official announcement, but it is already clear that this version of CZ 807 will join the ranks of modern battle rifles such as SCAR-H, HK-417, Beretta ARX-200, SIG 716 and many AR-10 variants available on the market. With such a diversity of variants, it looks like the golden age of .308 only begins now.

Wabout Beretta ARX series???

Beretta ARX CZ 807 Bren and Fn SCAR both seems have similar performance .. expert only can tell which one will best suited for Pakistan . as India have already chosen their replacement Pakistan need to start their replacement soon .

 

[Thunder.Storm]

Breaking news: CZ unveils new BREN 2 battle rifle in 7.62×51 (.308 Win)

Posted September 12, 2018 in Breaking News, Daily News, Defense, Product Announcement, Rifles by Vladimir Onokoy with 77 Comments
Tags: Beretta ARX-200, CZ 807, HK 417, SCAR-H, sig 716

Today, Polish military magazine MILMAG (https://www.milmag.pl/) released pictures of the new CZ Bren 2 variant chambered in .308 Win.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/TheMilMag2/

Follow the The Firearm Blog Daily News Channel

Looking at the pictures, we can see at least one interesting improvement- new M-Lock handguard.

In 2016, in Pakistan, when I was first introduced to CZ 807 series, my first question was – why do you still have a quad rail when you can have Key-Mode or M-Lock?

CZ 807 assault rifle is very light to begin with, but a modular handguard is a sure way to make it even lighter and improve the balance. The leader of a CZ trial team answered “the time for that will come’. I am glad the time finally came.

CZ 807 with a quadrail

Author with a CZ 807 chambered in 7.62×39 in Pakistan

Currently, there is no official information available about this new Bren 2 variant, but since the cat is out of the bag, I guess I can share what I know.

In 2016, Pakistan army held trials for its service weapon replacement. You can read more about it here. One of the contenders was CZ, it entered the trials with two different weapons, CZ 807 and… CZ 807.

Those two weapons, despite having exactly the same name, were chambered in two different calibers, 7.62×39 and 7.62×51. The first one entered the trials right away, the second one was introduced later. Shortly after the 7.62×51 variant was demonstrated for the first time, I managed to take some pictures and for over two years never showed them to anyone.

As far as the performance of CZ 807 during the trials – I don’t think it is ethical to share such information publically without the approval of the manufacturer. I can tell two things for sure – with match .308 ammunition, CZ 807 was very accurate, demonstrating solid groups at 100 meters distance. Second – in 2016, the .308 version was on a very early stage of development and rifle probably improved a lot in the last two years.

As far as specs: magazine capacity of the 2016 version was 20 rounds, but according to a TFB reader Kovacs Jeno “magazine is 25 rounder, according to CZ demonstrators in Bzenec” (thanks!).

Rifle has a signature CZ adjustable folding stock, the ergonomics resemble that of an AR15 with an ambidextrous magazine release located under the tip of a trigger finger and bolt catch being on the left side of the weapon. The safety is also ambidextrous.

We will see how soon CZ will catch up with an official announcement, but it is already clear that this version of CZ 807 will join the ranks of modern battle rifles such as SCAR-H, HK-417, Beretta ARX-200, SIG 716 and many AR-10 variants available on the market. With such a diversity of variants, it looks like the golden age of .308 only begins now.



Beretta ARX CZ 807 Bren and Fn SCAR both seems have similar performance .. expert only can tell which one will best suited for Pakistan . as India have already chosen their replacement Pakistan need to start their replacement soon .

You are late to the party [emoji322] bro.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

In my view Radom MSBS, Bren2 platform and ARX family are realistic contenders.

Breaking news: CZ unveils new BREN 2 battle rifle in 7.62×51 (.308 Win)

Posted September 12, 2018 in Breaking News, Daily News, Defense, Product Announcement, Rifles by Vladimir Onokoy with 77 Comments
Tags: Beretta ARX-200, CZ 807, HK 417, SCAR-H, sig 716

Today, Polish military magazine MILMAG (https://www.milmag.pl/) released pictures of the new CZ Bren 2 variant chambered in .308 Win.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/TheMilMag2/

Follow the The Firearm Blog Daily News Channel

Looking at the pictures, we can see at least one interesting improvement- new M-Lock handguard.

In 2016, in Pakistan, when I was first introduced to CZ 807 series, my first question was – why do you still have a quad rail when you can have Key-Mode or M-Lock?

CZ 807 assault rifle is very light to begin with, but a modular handguard is a sure way to make it even lighter and improve the balance. The leader of a CZ trial team answered “the time for that will come’. I am glad the time finally came.

CZ 807 with a quadrail

Author with a CZ 807 chambered in 7.62×39 in Pakistan

Currently, there is no official information available about this new Bren 2 variant, but since the cat is out of the bag, I guess I can share what I know.

In 2016, Pakistan army held trials for its service weapon replacement. You can read more about it here. One of the contenders was CZ, it entered the trials with two different weapons, CZ 807 and… CZ 807.

Those two weapons, despite having exactly the same name, were chambered in two different calibers, 7.62×39 and 7.62×51. The first one entered the trials right away, the second one was introduced later. Shortly after the 7.62×51 variant was demonstrated for the first time, I managed to take some pictures and for over two years never showed them to anyone.

As far as the performance of CZ 807 during the trials – I don’t think it is ethical to share such information publically without the approval of the manufacturer. I can tell two things for sure – with match .308 ammunition, CZ 807 was very accurate, demonstrating solid groups at 100 meters distance. Second – in 2016, the .308 version was on a very early stage of development and rifle probably improved a lot in the last two years.

As far as specs: magazine capacity of the 2016 version was 20 rounds, but according to a TFB reader Kovacs Jeno “magazine is 25 rounder, according to CZ demonstrators in Bzenec” (thanks!).

Rifle has a signature CZ adjustable folding stock, the ergonomics resemble that of an AR15 with an ambidextrous magazine release located under the tip of a trigger finger and bolt catch being on the left side of the weapon. The safety is also ambidextrous.

We will see how soon CZ will catch up with an official announcement, but it is already clear that this version of CZ 807 will join the ranks of modern battle rifles such as SCAR-H, HK-417, Beretta ARX-200, SIG 716 and many AR-10 variants available on the market. With such a diversity of variants, it looks like the golden age of .308 only begins now.



Beretta ARX CZ 807 Bren and Fn SCAR both seems have similar performance .. expert only can tell which one will best suited for Pakistan . as India have already chosen their replacement Pakistan need to start their replacement soon .

 

[monitor]

You are late to the party [emoji322] bro.

Party is going for 3.5 years so better late then never .

In my view Radom MSBS, Bren2 platform and ARX family are realistic contenders.

Who will share more technology with POF and cost effective multi caliber option might win the tender .

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Wat u said
And also
I think the one to share most tech and their full family would win right now that is only CZ with BREN series and scorpio smg.

Whereas Radom MSBS also has a lot of potential as it offers a conventional rifle and also a bullpup design with similar parts and tech.

Party is going for 3.5 years so better late then never .



Who will share more technology with POF and cost effective multi caliber option might win the tender .