Pakistans Nuclear ambition After MIRV And SLCM

[CriticalThought]

We don't very long range bombers we need a deep striker which can defend itself from interceptors and air defense fighters like J-16, JH-7, Su-34, as for your concerns about east cost of India we have BM for this purpose

An effective war strategy seeks to engage the enemy from all sides and in all theatres. A single dimensional strategy gives more power to the enemy because it makes his planning simpler.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Not possible, China doesn't have any excess nuclear subs.

Russia does because of the stockpile from the soviet days.

How do you know? Han class is retiring and replace by Shang class boats in near future, so Han class will be available in near future for Pakistan
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/type-91.htm

 

[Hassan Guy]

How do you know? Han class is retiring and replace by Shang class boats in near future, so Han class will be available in near future for Pakistan
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/type-91.htm

2 have already been decommissioned. China needs the other 3, by the time they will be replaced, they will be too old.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

as far as cruise missiles are concerned in next 10 to 12 years we need to make its airframe far more stealthy and improve turbofan engine.

 

[Ultima Thule]

An effective war strategy seeks to engage the enemy from all sides and in all theatres. A single dimensional strategy gives more power to the enemy because it makes his planning simpler.

But who gonna sell their Strategic bombers to another country we need extremely long range Fighter Bombers

2 have already been decommissioned. China needs the other 3, by the time they will be replaced, they will be too old.

Refurbished and upgraded them if Pakistan want these

 

[Fawadqasim1]

2 have already been decommissioned. China needs the other 3, by the time they will be replaced, they will be too old.

How do you know? Han class is retiring and replace by Shang class boats in near future, so Han class will be available in near future for Pakistan
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/type-91.htm

With respect sir what are we going to fire from it slcms we don't have slbms and for slbms we need all the development's/improvements I have mentioned in my post which went unnoticed china is not going to sell us slbms .

Probably:
Shaheen 4 - Single 1MT warhead, decoys, more advanced radar evasion, 2 stage solid fuel, range 3000km+
Ababeel 2 - MIRV capable variant of Shaheen 4, 4-10 100kt warheads
SLBM - Sea based variant of Shaheen 3 and Ababeel 1
GLCM/SLCM - More advanced Babur missiles, more advanced guidance + radar evasion, larger range + payload

Possibly:
Hypersonic glide vehicles
ICBM
Interceptors + ADS's

Never:
SLV's - SUPARCO is dead, don't bother with space.

Shaheen iii and ababeel are too long for an slbm

 

[Hassan Guy]

With respect sir what are we going to fire from it slcms we don't have slbms and for slbms we need all the development's/improvements I have mentioned in my post which went unnoticed china is not going to sell us slbms .


Shaheen iii and ababeel are too long for an slbm

They will need to rework it. Increase diameter and reduce length.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

They will need to rework it. Increase diameter and reduce length.

All of the development's and improvements
Which I have mentioned in my post. Sir instead of wasting our time we should discuss them preferable with haseeb sir o deterrent sir

Plans have been approved to develop a radiation homing targeting seeker attached to a conventional warhead for Babur cruise missile systems. It is envisioned to carry out stand off Destruction of Enemy Air Defenses (DEAD) missions with a great degree of autonomy as the missile will be able to seek its mobile target with excellent precision from a given General Target Location (GTL). Such a technology can be employed to destroy the likes of S-400 SAM systems, remote but static long range radar and ELINT stations, satellite communication hubs, Naval radio communication infrastructure and to some extent surface ships. @Oscar @Irfan Baloch @Icarus

Sir with shaking hands and feet and with due respect I beg to differ short range sams are getting more and more effective against non stealthy subsonic cruise missiles and they are deadly in very short ranges ie 1 to 2 kilometers eg a fm 90 unit can effectively protect a hq9 unit against babur type threats. For that sir we need iskandar type bms long rang mlrs with smart submunition j16s with vlraam type arms.

 

[Ultima Thule]

With respect sir what are we going to fire from it slcms we don't have slbms and for slbms we need all the development's/improvements I have mentioned in my post which went unnoticed china is not going to sell us slbms .

Yes you are right but bro we should move step by step, first we can lease China Han class SSN to understand how to build and maintain it, next step is with experience gain from HAN class we should develop Bigger SSGN with vertical launch tubes and than finally SSBN based on SSGN, SLBM is not problem for Pakistan, we might be design from scratch or may be modified versions of Shaheen-1 or 2

 

[Fawadqasim1]

Yes you are right but bro we should move step by step, first we can lease China Han class SSN to understand how to build and maintain it, next step is with experience gain from HAN class we should develop Bigger SSGN with vertical launch tubes and than finally SSBN based on SSGN, SLBM is not problem for Pakistan, we might be design from scratch or may be modified versions of Shaheen-1 or 2

Sir with due respect shaheen 2 cannot be modified to a slbm and shaheen1s range is too short to warrant a boomer so the above mentioned improvements and development's are required not only for a slbm but for a viable survivable future road mobile tel based bm force

 

[Ultima Thule]

Sir with due respect shaheen 2 cannot be modified to a slbm and shaheen1s range is too short to warrant a boomer so the above mentioned improvements and development's are required not only for a slbm but for a viable survivable future road mobile tel based bm force

Modified means based upon Shaheen-1 or 2

 

[CriticalThought]

But who gonna sell their Strategic bombers to another country we need extremely long range Fighter Bomber

Where there is a will there is a way. If it provides us a significant enough strategic advantage, it will be acquired.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Where there is a will there is a way. If it provides us a significant enough strategic advantage, it will be acquired.

No bro impossible Who gonna sell it to Pakistan China No way and don't forget Long range or strategic bombers need a escorts from enemy interceptor and fighters we need ultra long range Fighter Bombers Like Su-34 or J-16 with CFT

 

[Fawadqasim1]

Pakistans Nuclear ambition After MIRV And SLCM
1 next gen bms
2 next gen cms
3 next gen pen aids and tactics


To add more iskander type bm
Long range mlrs with smart submunition. j16s with vlraam type arms.
Very stealthy air launched cruise missile with smart submunitions.
Fifth gen fighter.

Iceeebeems maybe