Pakistan's Hatf 9 promoted as a counter to India's Prahaar

[Rashid Mahmood]

This is worth a read.

 

[Alpha1]

Thats not where the biggest threat will be.
That will be at Lahore and nearby areas.

luckily in punjab there are many obstacles in punjab like cannals etc

 

[Bratva]

Thats not where the biggest threat will be.
That will be at Lahore and nearby areas.

as @Alpha1 explained, BRB canal, small rivers and other natural obstacles exists which will slow down Indian thrust and that part of Border is already well covered with Anti tank missiles and other essential equipments. Army reinforcement can come in with 20-30 minutes if India tries to cross the border due to close proximity of Cantt (20-30 min drive from Wahga Border).

Now compare it with Thar dessert. A wast barren land, not well covered, If india breaches it, it will take army to 2-3 hours to respond and that's our weak spot and that's where Nasr will be used if Indian forces over run Pakistani defenses.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Nasr is weapon of deterrence, just in case we start shooting it, or India starts shooting Parhaars, all of us should take it as the sign of the end of time, and kiss our asses goodbye.

You shouldn't "wait" for Prahaar to fire Nasr. Prahaar system will be given to artillery corps, it will be fired like you would expect with Smerchs and Pinakas.

 

[Contrarian]

Nasr is weapon of deterrence, just in case we start shooting it, or India starts shooting Parhaars, all of us should take it as the sign of the end of time, and kiss our asses goodbye.

Explained by Water Car Engg.
Prahaar is being give to our arty corps to be used for regular bombardment. Conventional role.

as @Alpha1 explained, BRB canal, small rivers and other natural obstacles exists which will slow down Indian thrust and that part of Border is already well covered with Anti tank missiles and other essential equipments. Army reinforcement can come in with 20-30 minutes if India tries to cross the border due to close proximity of Cantt (20-30 min drive from Wahga Border).

Now compare it with Thar dessert. A wast barren land, not well covered, If india breaches it, it will take army to 2-3 hours to respond and that's our weak spot and that's where Nasr will be used if Indian forces over run Pakistani defenses.

Those days of Army crossing and then PA responding are gone.
We are invested massively in missiles. Before the Army crosses PA cants and bases would be bombed heavily by all kinds of munitions and missiles.

And Pakistan does not have a wide or good coverage of SAM's to prevent that.

 

[farhan_9909]

Explained by Water Car Engg.
Prahaar is being give to our arty corps to be used for regular bombardment. Conventional role.


Those days of Army crossing and then PA responding are gone.
We are invested massively in missiles. Before the Army crosses PA cants and bases would be bombed heavily by all kinds of munitions and missiles.

And Pakistan does not have a wide or good coverage of SAM's to prevent that.

bombing of pakistan cities will result in a ful scale war.Which means pakistan will also do the similar with indian cities.

in 2011-02 standoff it took india billion of dollars and 1800 troops death toll only for the deployment of troops near the border.

do you think the situation has completely changed?

other than this even to reach lahore from India border it will take them atleast 8-10hours in such time we can deploy A-100MLRS,tanks and Nasr TEL along the border to start the bombardment of Indian offensive troops.

In short

"Pakistan has planned to limit the CSD into indian territory by killing atleast half a million indian troops within indian territory."

 

[Bratva]

Explained by Water Car Engg.
Prahaar is being give to our arty corps to be used for regular bombardment. Conventional role.


Those days of Army crossing and then PA responding are gone.
We are invested massively in missiles. Before the Army crosses PA cants and bases would be bombed heavily by all kinds of munitions and missiles.

And Pakistan does not have a wide or good coverage of SAM's to prevent that.

Before making this assumption, I advise you should also imagine Pakistani CM (LACM, ALCM), BM ( Shaheen 1 A, SRBM, MRBM) would also obliterate your incoming columns.

And that was the purpose of Azm e nau 3 (2010) & Azm e nau (2013) exercises to develop strategies to counter Indian missile and sudden offensive thrust

 

[Contrarian]

bombing of pakistan cities will result in a ful scale war.Which means pakistan will also do the similar with indian cities.

I didnt say cities, I said cants and bases.
And frankly, it barely makes a difference. Apart from a couple of border towns, PAF isnt bombing anything more than a couple of days.

in 2011-02 standoff it took india billion of dollars and 1800 troops death toll only for the deployment of troops near the border.

do you think the situation has completely changed?

Vastly

other than this even to reach lahore from India border it will take them atleast 8-10hours in such time we can deploy A-100MLRS,tanks and Nasr TEL along the border to start the bombardment of Indian offensive troops.

In short

"Pakistan has planned to limit the CSD into indian territory by killing atleast half a million indian troops within indian territory."

Yeah, thats not happening mate. An overwhelming amount of the fighting is going to be in Pakistani territory despite what fanbois believe.

 

[Yogi]

Wrong!

Nasr was developed after the intelligence reports confirmed Parhaar's development. India had been developing Parhaar since long, we needed a better system to counter it. Nasr was the answer.

Do u have any source to back ur claim or its another of ur air castles of conspiracy theories?

I still can't believe this guy is actually a MOD...

 

[Contrarian]

Before making this assumption, I advise you should also imagine Pakistani CM (LACM, ALCM), BM ( Shaheen 1 A, SRBM, MRBM) would also obliterate your incoming columns.

And that was the purpose of Azm e nau 3 (2010) & Azm e nau (2013) exercises to develop strategies to counter Indian missile and sudden offensive thrust

Yeah, apart from ATGM's, there has been no procurement by Pakistan that suggests an active effort and capability to stop that offensive thrust.

Maybe its the lack of money, but at the end of the day, the assets that are required to prevent it successfully are not there.

 

[Kompromat]

Yeah, apart from ATGM's, there has been no procurement by Pakistan that suggests an active effort and capability to stop that offensive thrust.

Maybe its the lack of money, but at the end of the day, the assets that are required to prevent it successfully are not there.

...and what exactly do you think, M-109A5, A-100E MBRLs, 122mm Yurmuk MBRLs, Al-Khalid Block II, SH-1, 155mm Panter howitzer, a whole host of air launched munitions, multiple cruise missile platforms, and the upcoming T-129 ATAK/UMTAS ATGM, acquisitions are supposed to be used for?

 

[Secur]

Then again, Pakistan claims more than it can deliver.

Not really , Pakistan hides more than it has , it claims nothing at all , absolutely nothing , its defense projects information most of the time isn't even available in public domain . The above statement may be true for Indian defense organization who talk more and do less , not for Pakistan . As for the " may happen again " thing , I hope your planners do not take that risk , Islamabad has come a long way since ' 1999 in missile technology .

We are invested massively in missiles. Before the Army crosses PA cants and bases would be bombed heavily by all kinds of munitions and missiles.

I do not really understand why the Indians always overestimate themselves whilst assuming that the other side will be sitting quiet , does the other side not have it to retaliate ? . If the situations that rosy for you , I guess you should have crossed back at the time of Mumbai attack . If the military capability has been so " VASTLY " improved since Op.Parakram since then , why did the " nuclear deterrence " work again - the fourth time in history after Pakistan went nuclear ?

 

[Bratva]

Yeah, apart from ATGM's, there has been no procurement by Pakistan that suggests an active effort and capability to stop that offensive thrust.

Maybe its the lack of money, but at the end of the day, the assets that are required to prevent it successfully are not there.

MRLS (120 KM range), Artillery pieces procured from China, Turkey, USA, Net centric warfare, Upgraded Tanks connected with each other backed up by Army aviation.

It's what a defensive force requires. SInce we would not be offensive one. Perhaps you are thinking opposite. As an offensive force, but no, PA offensive punch would mainly depends upon it's Cruise and ballistic missile arsenals

 

[Yogi]

LoL kid Range doesn't always matter....

Prahaar -

Payload : 200kg(Conventional or Nuclear)
Max Speed : 4-5 Mach
Max Salvo : 6
CEP : <2m
Range : 150km

BTW where do u think that Nasr has an upper hand over prahaar????

 

[Leviza]

i see so many indians thinking that and trying to proof that when india attacks Pakistan... we all will ran like Iraqi did on US invasion

come on... do you guys really think that? grow up, even before someone of you bring in 71' (as you always do when ran out of real arguments) i like to tell you that its not 71 anymore

your funny army had tried this after 26/11 and failed to materialized anything out if it , they will fail again,

if you have any guts bring it on and time will tell you who was right .... so stop using this forum to showing us your bubble which we can burst in single day