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Leave the troll guys hes just here to troll n derail the thread........... typical.
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I take your pardon, the question you are asking is not tough its very much moronic indeed. To be more precise full of anti Pak venom.wow.. you guys are ganging up to get me banned. it is like a easy way out of a tough question?
Yaar... I never said we should attack America... dont go off tangents... Our Nukes and ICBMs are for deterrance only...
We need ICBMs... otherwise we will remain slaves to America... its as simple as that... once they know that we are capable of MAD, their hands shall be tied like with the Soviets... Otherwise I dont need any lessons in being told that they are a nation that has the political will to annihilate their enemies (the weaker ones) when they get the chance... Hiroshima and Nagasaki hear hear!!!
If you think that ICBMs are going to be costly... can we not buy a few from China? After all we buy a lot of equipment that we do not make ourselves... ?? Would that be a better option...
Lets say... How many big cities are there in America? 50 for all state capitals?
True, Pakistan needs to ensure it can target at least 50 American cities in order to stop being blackmailed.
BTW, DF-31 is mature and uncostly, and i think it would be a good available option.
Since China did sell DF-3 to Saudi Arabia, an ally of US in 1987. And DF-31 won't be out of possibility.
I take your pardon, the question you are asking is not tough its very much moronic indeed. To be more precise full of anti Pak venom.
It would be harmful for us to test an ICBM as of now........... Nor we have any intention to nuke anyone.... unless we r provoked.
Also thank u very much for the offer brother.......But it would be better if we make it(and we are developing it) indigenously.
Plus..... i hope they buy the "carrier killer" DF 21D.. or develop something like it.
Most of non Arab Muslims add Muhammad before their real name, if you stand true then all of them must have been slaves of Arabs. Take it this way, there's no any other Hindu populated country in the world except India. Believe me if there were some they would have definitely followed India in many ways.
Faisalabad was named followed the session of first successful Islamic Summit Conferences at Lahore 1974. Shah faisal, king of KSA was acclaimed a hero of that success. I guess you know the entire story!
BTW I was expecting an avatar of Bhagat Singh at your display, Achilles made me altogether astonished. I am amazed at your personality of inspiration, you got to idealized something Indian, right!
......But it would be better if we make it(and we are developing it) indigenously.
That's not Achilles. It is a Roman soldier I painted recently . Any way, you cannot compare an individual's choice with the choices made by a nation which affects the psyche of its people.
Yaar... I never said we should attack America... dont go off tangents... Our Nukes and ICBMs are for deterrance only...
We need ICBMs... otherwise we will remain slaves to America... its as simple as that... once they know that we are capable of MAD, their hands shall be tied like with the Soviets... Otherwise I dont need any lessons in being told that they are a nation that has the political will to annihilate their enemies (the weaker ones) when they get the chance... Hiroshima and Nagasaki hear hear!!!
If you think that ICBMs are going to be costly... can we not buy a few from China? After all we buy a lot of equipment that we do not make ourselves... ?? Would that be a better option...
Lets say... How many big cities are there in America? 50 for all state capitals?
I meant Turkic sorry. But you are the one who should be ashamed for not finding someone from your country for naming your proud missile. But I am not surprised, after all, the third largest Pakistani city is named after the Saudi King coz he gave some charity. That would never happen in India or anywhere else in the world . ".Only Pakistanis have such "big hearts
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Defeat is irrelevant, just like we received a heavy blow during the 8 year imposed war, by the world. What is important is that you stand up, rebuild and do your best again. Iran under heavier sanctions and embargoes achieved a thousand fold more than Iraq while they come right after Iran in terms of oil. Iran was being embargoed and sanctioned from 1979, while Iraq received its sanctions a decade later and had received an estimated $400 billion dollars of aid from Saudi/Kuwait/UAE and several EU countries while they were at war with us, and consistently were receiving weapons, military intelligence and advisory from the west.Tht was centuries ago... Also i hope u know how many times it was defeated......nothin to boast of..
I bet you'd wish Pakistan could at least reverse engineer these. It's easy to put others down, I'm not going to put down a list for you, instead, why don't you show what other countries have achieved with the precious oil you talk of.Wat unique things have u produced?reverse engineered helis and F-4s which are far inferior to even the 1970s models.
You seem to be stuck in the past, Iran does not import gasoline and started exporting gasoline for a year now. Iran is one of world's highest gasoline consuming countries. Use your imagination on how much gasoline we produce. Of course being one of few countries in the world that can make refinaries has a lot to do with the oil we have.Do u have any oil refinery?
Where did you get this amount from? The pipeline on Pakistan's side costs $1.65b and the total export of $4.9b per million btu, cheaper than you could get it from anywhere else.Yeah right....... For 8 billion.
China said they would want to be connected to it on the condition that India doesn't get connected to it. Either way it's important to connect India too, to get the pipeline further into Asia. Even if it takes a pipeline through the sea.Conect to wat india? they backed out under US pressure....
Depends on whether you want to have 24/7 electricity and what not in your country or not. At the rate India wanted to import, it would have earned Pakistan $1b per year, depending on how much China wants to import, it'll earn even more. All of it for what? For having a pipeline run through your country and keep it from being blown up by wahhabis. The price of the gas for Pakistan would then be at most $3.9b per million btu. On top of that Pakistan would attain some political leverage over the other country. Which is part of the reason Pakistan didn't want to sign the contract obligating them to let the gas pass to India even in case of war between the two countries.Lame reason..... They would love to have cheap gas ... 1 billion $ is nothing big.
Yeah sure, that's why we catch so many Pakistani citizens. There are Iranians among them though. However the leader of that satanic group himself was a Pakistani national too.Jandullah is iran based on Pakistan based.....might wanna checkout the details...........
Yeah sure, that's why they ordered his release years ago when he was caught by local police. ISI is a corrupt gang who doesn't seem to know what is best for Pakistan. On top of that Iranian intelligence said no foreign agency took part in arresting him. They would not have said that, had ISI taken any part.P.S=ISI helped u catch Rigi....... while ur press tv was bullshittin tht Pakistan is helping them.
Have you ever been to Iran? lol... "atleast we are a democracy" you say, lol. I have lived in Karachi for years buddy. Pakistan is corrupt mess. A ticket from Pakistan to Iran is very cheap, I suggest you visit it and then tell me whether Iran is more of a democracy or Pakistan.... Just so you know, we have a lot of illegal Afghans and Pakistanis in Iran who we can't easily get rid of.Who gives a crap abt these pathetic politicans.. in the end they would get their kicked...........But hey atleast we are a democracy!!!
Of course it's not meant against Iran. Pakistan can already hit Iran with its Shaheed missile. It's just that some fools in Pakistan seem to think their live would become any better or that they would attain any kind of leverage with having ICBMs. Do you seriously think Pakistan can gain leverage against the US, or even more preposterous, "MAD" against the US???As for an ICBM.......Well its our internal matter.........we have no bad intentions towards iran........... If u think we do....then remember tht any current missile would do in Irans case.......so dont worry.
Why do you think Pakistan had better relations with Iran when Iran was being controlled by a U.S. placed dictator? lol... Pakistan till this day is still in slave state under US rule. Glad we got rid of that dictator, now it's your turn...P.S=Iran was a great country under Shahs rule......
Of course it's not meant against Iran. Pakistan can already hit Iran with its Shaheed missile. It's just that some fools in Pakistan seem to think their live would become any better or that they would attain any kind of leverage with having ICBMs. Do you seriously think Pakistan can gain leverage against the US, or even more preposterous, "MAD" against the US???
I'll tell you what, let's compare a closer country to your borders. If both Pakistan and India fire nuclear missiles at one another, Pakistan would seize to exist long before even Pakistan manages to damage half of India.
This is the reality of things. Instead of being busy with this nonsense, spend your time on bettering relations with India, exchange tourists, stop ISI from bothering surrounding friendly countries terrorists and work on advancing your countries infrastructure, science, healthcare, etc, etc.
Why do you think Pakistan had better relations with Iran when Iran was being controlled by a U.S. placed dictator? lol... Pakistan till this day is still in slave state under US rule. Glad we got rid of that dictator, now it's your turn...