Pakistan's Constitution doesn't recognise Gilgit-Baltistan as its part: Jitendra Singh

[Hindustani78]

Last Updated: Monday, June 8, 2015 - 14:21
Pakistan's Constitution doesn't recognise Gilgit-Baltistan as its part: Jitendra Singh | Zee News


New Delhi: Asserting that India's position over the Gilgit-Baltistan issue has been clear from the very beginning, Minister of State in the Prime Minister's Office (PMO) Dr Jitendra Singh on Monday said even the Constitution of Pakistan does not recognise the area as a part of the Islamic republic.


"I think as far as Gilgit-Baltistan is concerned, India's position has been very clear right from the beginning. Even the Constitution of Pakistan does not recognise it as a part of Pakistan. And, therefore, any such kind of initiative undertaken by Pakistan over there clearly smacks of some mischievous desires," Singh told the media here.

"As far as India is concerned, we go by the 1994 resolution of Parliament which was passed unanimously, which clearly states that there is nothing outstanding as far as Jammu and Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan is concerned, except for retrieving back the portions of Jammu-Kashmir, including Gilgit-Baltistan, which continue to remain under the illegal occupation of Pakistan," he added.

The people of Gilgit-Baltistan have rejected the elections being held today, demanding an end to the colonial rule of Pakistan outside the United Nations Office in Gilgit city.

"If there are any attempts to sideline our party during elections then we challenge that nobody will be able to rule in Gilgit-Baltistan," said Jamaat-e-Ulema Islam, the leader of a regional party.

Meanwhile, a resident of Diamer, rued the lack of health and education facilities, saying no development has taken place in the area.

India had earlier flagged its objections to the elections being held in Gilgit-Baltistan, which forms a part of Azad Kashmir, and termed the move as an attempt to camouflage the 'forcible and illegal' occupation of the region.

ANI

 

[Sugarcane]

LOL!!! If Passing resolution in own parliament is all the requirement than we can pass resolution as well and declare whole India as province of Pakistan, which should be taken back with Ghazwa-e-Hind.

 

[WAJsal]

True. An unfortunate case of utter incompetence, it can't go on like this, i hope things get resolved soon. With rising voice i'm quite optimistic things will get better soon and that GB will get a constitutional and political right. I mean what the f *** is keeping Pakistan government to do any of this, what a shame. But that doesn't mean we don't want to be a part of Pakistan, or we want to be a part of India. Or that there is a forceful invasion by Pakistan Army in Gilgit, don't confuse yourselves Indian brothers. There is no point in lying to yourselves, while the truth is completely different.

 

[salmanACCA]

we will get kashmir and china will get AP...just wait some time

 

[WAJsal]

"As far as India is concerned, we go by the 1994 resolution of Parliament which was passed unanimously, which clearly states that there is nothing outstanding as far as Jammu and Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan is concerned, except for retrieving back the portions of Jammu-Kashmir, including Gilgit-Baltistan, which continue to remain under the illegal occupation of Pakistan," he added.

Illegal occupation? Can this Jitendra dude point me to where i could find this illegal occupation. I'm a local, i have family in all of GB, i got here almost every year, where the f u c k is this occupation? proud of Pak army, proud to be a Gilgiti, most importantly proud to be a Pakistani.
If you think we will ever want to be a part of India, lolz. Keep dreaming and keep lying to yourselves, won't help.

 

[Indus Falcon]

India mudea (media) doing what they do best, spewing venom and crap on a non-issue!

 

[WAJsal]

People in Gilgit Baltistan reject polls demanding freedom from Pak


People of Gilgit Baltistan have rejected the elections being held today, demanding an end to the colonial rule of Pakistanoutside the United Nations Office in Gilgit city.

Leader of a regional party Jamaat-e-Ulema Islam said, "If there are any attempts to sideline our party during elections then we challenge that nobody will be able to rule in Gilgit-Baltistan".

Meanwhile, a resident of Diamer area rued the lack of health and education facilities, saying "no development has taken place in Diamer".

Another local resident said that the government had failed to deliver on its promises, which is why there is resentment among the people.

India had earlier flagged its objections to elections being held in Gilgit-Baltistan, which forms a part of Azad Kashmir, and termed the move as an attempt to camouflage the 'forcible and illegal' occupation of the region.

People in Gilgit Baltistan reject polls demanding freedom from Pak | Business Standard News

Complete Bullshit, demanding freedom? stop this Bullshit.
@Irfan Baloch , @Slav Defence ,@waz ,@WebMaster @Horus , please delete this post, complete propaganda.
I urge Indian members to come visit Gilgit, stop lying to yourselves, come to Bunji and see how much we love Pakistan army, in fact we contribute to it immensely. There is a reason why we are known for our hospitality and patriotism. We have fought for our beloved land and laid many lives. When was the last time one heard of freedom rally, or clash with the police or burning of Pakistan flag or clash with the Army. Stop this bullshit, please.

 

[Indus Falcon]

@waz @Emmie @Manticore @Jango @Jungibaaz Another useless thread based on Indian media rantings and indian wishful thinking.

 

[salmanACCA]

Animal/idol worshippers never have courage to do anything. Didn't you learn that?

answer the question are you ready for a referendum in GB and kashmir

 

[Sam.]

answer the question are you ready for a referendum in GB and kashmir

Of course we are , follow the UN mandate in which section 2 says "Pakistan take back their army out of jammu and kashmir" which is not done by pakistan so we are waiting for your move.


PART I: CEASE-FIRE ORDER - done by both pakistan and India
A. The Governments of India and Pakistan agree that their respective High Commands will issue separately and simultaneously a cease-fire order to apply to all forces under their control and in the State of Jammu and Kashmir as of the earliest practicable date or dates to be mutually agreed upon within four days after these proposals have been accepted by both Governments.

B.The High Commands of the Indian and Pakistani forces agree to refrain from taking any measures that might augment the military potential of the forces under their control in the State of Jammu and Kashmir. ( For the purpose of these proposals forces under their control shall be considered to include all forces, organized and unorganized, fighting or participating in hostilities on their respective sides.

C.The Commanders-in-Chief of the forces of India and Pakistan shall promptly confer regarding any necessary local changes in present dispositions which may facilitate the cease-fire.

D. In its discretion and as the Commission may find practicable, the Commission will appoint military observers who, under the authority of the Commission and with the co-operation of both Commands, will supervise the observance of the cease-fire order.

E. The Government of India and the Government of Pakistan agree to appeal to their respective peoples to assist in creating and maintaining an atmosphere favourable to the promotion of further negotiations.

PART II: TRUCE AGREEMENT - Pakistan didn't do yet
Simultaneously with the acceptance of the proposal for the immediate cessation of hostilities as outlined in Part I, both the Governments accept the following principles as a basis for the formulation of a truce agreement, the details of which shall be worked out in discussion between their representatives and the Commission.
A.

1. As the presence of troops of Pakistan in the territory of the State of Jammu and Kashmir constitutes a material change in the situation since it was represented by the Government of Pakistan before the Security Council, the Government of Pakistan agrees to withdraw its troops from that State.

2. The Government of Pakistan will use its best endeavour to secure the withdrawal from the State of Jammu and Kashmir of tribesmen and Pakistani nationals not normally resident therein who have entered the State for the purpose of fighting.

3. Pending a final solution, the territory evacuated by the Pakistani troops will be administered by the local authorities under the surveillance of the commission.

B.

1.When the commission shall have notified the Government of India that the tribesmen and Pakistani nationals referred to in Part II, A, 2, hereof have withdrawn, thereby terminating the situation which was represented by the Government of India to the Security Council as having occasioned the presence of Indian forces in the State of Jammu and Kashmir, and further, that the Pakistani forces are being withdrawn from the State of Jammu and Kashmir, the Government of India agrees to begin to withdraw the bulk of its forces from that State in stages to be agreed upon with the Commission.

2. Pending the acceptance of the conditions for a final settlement of the situation in the State of Jammu and Kashmir, the Indian Government will maintain within the lines existing at the moment of the cease-fire the minimum strength of its forces which in agreement with the commission are considered necessary to assist local authorities in the observance of law and order. The Commission will have observers stationed where it deems necessary.

3. The Government of India will undertake to ensure that the Government of the State of Jammu and Kashmir will take all measures within its powers to make it publicly known that peace, law and order will be safeguarded and that all human political rights will be granted.

4. Upon signature, the full text of the truce agreement or a communique containing the principles thereof as agreed upon between the two Governments and the Commission, will be made public.

PART III

The Government of India and the Government of Pakistan reaffirm their wish that the future status of the State of Jammu and Kashmir shall be determined in accordance with the will of the people and to that end, upon acceptance of the truce agreement, both Governments agree to enter into consultations with the Commission to determine fair and equitable conditions whereby such free expression will be assured.

 

[Hindustani78]

LOL!!! If Passing resolution in own parliament is all the requirement than we can pass resolution as well and declare whole India as province of Pakistan, which should be taken back with Ghazwa-e-Hind.

The reason behind that resolution on Feb 22 1994 was because of the proxy war which was waged against the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Republic of India.

February 22, 1994


"This House note with deep concern Pakistan's role in imparting training to the terrorists in camps located in Pakistan and Pakistan Occupied Kashmir, the supply of weapons and funds, assistance in infiltration of trained militants, including foreign mercenaries into Jammu and Kashmir with the avowed purpose of creating disorder, disharmony and subversion:

reiterates that the militants trained in Pakistan are indulging in murder, loot and other heinous crimes against the people, taking them hostage and creating an atmosphere of terror;

Condemns strongly the continued support and encouragement Pakistan is extending to subversive and terrorist activities in the Indian state of Jammu & Kashmir;

Calls upon Pakistan to stop forthwith its support to terrorism, which is in violation of the Simla Agreement and the internationally accepted norms of inter-State conduct and is the root cause of tension between the two countries reiterates that the Indian political and democratic structures and the Constitution provide for firm guarantees for the promotion and protection of human rights of all its citizens;

regard Pakistan's anti-India campaign of calumny and falsehood as unacceptable and deplorable.

notes with deep concern the highly provocative statements emanating from Pakistan urges Pakistan to refrain from making statements which vitiate the atmosphere and incite public opinion;

expresses regret and concern at the pitiable conditions and violations of human rights and denial of demoractic freedoms of the people in those areas of the Indian State of Jammu and Kashmir, which are under the illegal occupation of Pakistan;

On behalf of the People of India,

Firmly declares that-

(a) The State of Jammu & Kashmir has been, is and shall be an integral part of India and any attempts to separate it from the rest of the country will be resisted by all necessary means;

(b) India has the will and capacity to firmly counter all designs against its unity, sovereignty and territorial integrity;

and demands that -

(c) Pakistan must vacate the areas of the Indian State of Jammu and Kashmir, which they have occupied through aggression; and resolves that -

(d) all attempts to interfere in the internal affairs of India will be met resolutely."

The Resolution was unanimously adopted. Mr. Speaker: The Resolution is unanimously passed.

we are ready to do a referendum in GB, does animal worshipers have enough balls to do a referendum in Indian occupied kashmir

Referendum cant be held now because Pakistan was not ready to remove its military during that time and ceded kashmir land to the Chinese.

India mudea (media) doing what they do best, spewing venom and crap on a non-issue!

Its a statement issued by the Minister of State in the Prime Minister's Office (PMO) Dr Jitendra Singh

Animal/idol worshippers never have courage to do anything. Didn't you learn that?

Please dont hijack religion, Way more muslims live in India and they are proud Indians.

 

[third eye]

LOL!!! If Passing resolution in own parliament is all the requirement than we can pass resolution as well and declare whole India as province of Pakistan, which should be taken back with Ghazwa-e-Hind.

Implying thereby that the contents of Post No 1 are correct ?

What is the current factual position on GB in Pak constitution ?

 

[WAJsal]

@Indianmembers , the ground reality is there is no forceful invasion. Taking a look at Gilgiit's history. It got liberated on it's own and further decided to accede and become a part of Pakistan, how is this forceful invasion? Hell, i'm a local and i couldn't find this illegal, forceful invasion. Stop lying to yourselves.
How Gilgit-Baltistan got liberated .
Another thing that is confused is that Gilgitis don't want to be a part of Pakistan etc,etc. It's completely wrong, gilgitis are proud patriots. We don't hate Pakistan army or whatever. Has there ever a news of Anti-Pakistan rallies, anti-Pakistan army rallies come out of Gilgit. Again stop lying to yourselves.
As far as constitutional status is concerned, it seems like it's out internal affair, would you please focus on your problems instead of worrying about us.

 

[Hyperion]

Bullshit Indian propaganda from a pathetic Indian website........ next time make sure that such a controversial news item is from an international newspaper / journal of repute....

Now back to your desk at RAW........

People in Gilgit Baltistan reject polls demanding freedom from Pak


People of Gilgit Baltistan have rejected the elections being held today, demanding an end to the colonial rule of Pakistanoutside the United Nations Office in Gilgit city.

Leader of a regional party Jamaat-e-Ulema Islam said, "If there are any attempts to sideline our party during elections then we challenge that nobody will be able to rule in Gilgit-Baltistan".

Meanwhile, a resident of Diamer area rued the lack of health and education facilities, saying "no development has taken place in Diamer".

Another local resident said that the government had failed to deliver on its promises, which is why there is resentment among the people.

India had earlier flagged its objections to elections being held in Gilgit-Baltistan, which forms a part of Azad Kashmir, and termed the move as an attempt to camouflage the 'forcible and illegal' occupation of the region.

People in Gilgit Baltistan reject polls demanding freedom from Pak | Business Standard News

 

[Indus Falcon]

@Indian members , the ground reality is there is no forceful invasion. Taking a look at Gilgiit's history. It got liberated on it's own and further decided to accede and become a part of Pakistan, how is this forceful invasion? Hell, i'm a local and i couldn't find this illegal, forceful invasion. Stop lying to yourselves.
How Gilgit-Baltistan got liberated .
Another thing that is confused is that Gilgitis don't want to be a part of Pakistan etc,etc. It's completely wrong, gilgitis are proud patriots. We don't hate Pakistan army or whatever. Has there ever a news of Anti-Pakistan rallies, anti-Pakistan army rallies come out of Gilgit. Again stop lying to yourselves.
As far as constitutional status is concerned, it seems like it's out internal affair, would you please focus on your problems instead of worrying about us.

Gilgit's are proudly serving in the Armed Forces and have held very critical positions as well. This thread, and the OP is nothing more than their wishful thinking.

Wasn't it you who posted about senior Galgitis in the Army. Please re-post it here as well. Thank You!