Pakistan's Blunder Of Not Joining The Yemen War:---

[Khafee]

So we shud have a joined a sectarian Shia sunni war??

@Horus kindly check this poster... I mean there are limits

Yes @Horus ban him!

We don't need intellectuals like him on a Defence forum, who are not held hostage by a minority, and can actually think and strategize. People like him and @Mangus Ortus Novem raise the level of this forum, put perma bans on them!

 

[Lincoln]

Yes @Horus ban him!

We don't need intellectuals like him on a Defence forum, who are not held hostage by a minority, and can actually think and strategize. People like him and @Mangus Ortus Novem raise the level of this forum, put perma bans on them!

For a person who speaks so high of intellectualness and freedom of speech, it is surprising you couldn't even bare Saudi Arabia being called America's personal gofundme.

 

[Khafee]

For a person who speaks so high of intellectualness and freedom of speech, it is surprising you couldn't even bare Saudi Arabia being called America's personal gofundme.

Nice to see Mullah lovers on this thread, get their knickers in a twist!

 

[PakSword]

Hi,

Some say ' hindsight 20/20 '---other say---' you should have thought about the consequences before hand'---' you should have thought about who you are---what your assets are---what your friends and allies need---what concerns your enemy---what assets that you have that your enemy does not want you to have---& what could the enemy do to remove those assets '---.

I seriously think that is a statement that shows like something too much to ask---even to a pakistani military General officer in command---because most of their interest lies in housing schemes---property---commissions---war on terror & things on similar line & length---India---.

The there is the mantra of tactical nucs---. Well the problem with that mantra is that the super power does not like that mantra---. The religionist evangelicals in the regime want to de-fang pakistan---and the only people who did not know abut that was the pakistani military generals---who sitting secure in their offices believed their assets are secure---I mean to say the nucs---.

What america does in front of everyone's face is that it keeps its enemies farthest away from the mainland---and keeps troops at out posts distant from the mainland and tells everyone what the reason is---yet the pakistani generals never understood it---the current pakistani prime minister does not understand it either---.

Pakistanis in general have a belief---don't bother us---we will not bother you---what they tend to forget is that they have around 200 nucs that can destroy the world---so the baby that wants to make itself look innocent singing gaga maybe innocent in its own mind---but to the outside world---it looks like a death wish come true---.

So---the nation that does not know its own strength---does not understand what steps it needed to take to expand to protect its assets---has no understanding and concept of having military bases outside of pakistan at critical locations---having no concept of having those assets---is basically clueless of its environment---.

And that was very obvious when the Yemen crisis started---. That was the time for pakistan to have understood what was at stake---what was going to happen---what was coming in the short term near future and what the long term future game plan of the opponent was---and then it should have gone ahead and firmed firmed up its grip on the region as was being permitted by the super power---.

The super power USA gave the region of the gulf states on a platter to pakistan---and the fools rejected it---. The terms used were---we don't want a war---we will not participate in a war---we are not mercenaries---even though all the conquests of the muslim empire were mercenary armies---all the great muslim warriors were mercenaries---payment was in loot and plunder---'maal a ghanimat '---.

Why did pakistan not do what it should have done---was just to please iran---and what was iran to pakistan---a muslim brother---and what was pakistan to iran---a fcking inferior dark skin nuc capable country---.

Pakistani generals have sold the integrity of the pakistani nation and the future welfare of the country trying to side with a pariah nation---a nation whose sole and only purpose is to create havoc in the region---.

If pakistan had a 150 K battle group in the gulf states---backed by a seperate air force---armor--- navy & transporation---the US would not be sending in its naval battle group and there would not have been any talk of 100K american troops in the region or the B52's striking iran---.

There would not have been any pulwama type attacks---because the indian power would have been neutered or lessened by the presnce of pakistani troops in the region---thus no attacks by indian air force on the night of the 26th---.

General Raheel---sir---you truly failed pakistan---when it was time to make some hard & timely decisions to move the pakistani military influence from outside of its borders and into the gulf region---.

I write this post seeing what is happening in the gulf---what the US military is doing in the gulf in the last few weeks and what their plans are---. Mastankhan

For once in my life.. I agree.. thank you for a nice article..

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Yes @Horus ban him!

We don't need intellectuals like him on a Defence forum, who are not held hostage by a minority, and can actually think and strategize. People like him and @Mangus Ortus Novem raise the level of this forum, put perma bans on them!

Ban 'em... don't ban 'em... eat them...don't eat them... Shifu thinks too much...
Shifu needs to still his mind.

Khafee, old man... you know the Rule : Capture their minds, their hands will follow!

Good ol' tested method... works every time...

Pak is fighting multi-vector war... it has reached now hyper stage... and Paks are focused on petty issues with political maffias following the foreign script with zeal...

Pak needs stability at all costs. This is hyper Hybridwar that we can't afford to loose. And we shall pervail. We have no other choice.

You know Pak has no secterian history... it is not part of our DNA... in fact I recall it never was the case... it started post ZAB. But that is going back in time... not relevant now.

@MastanKhan might be barking mad, same as I... but he does offer a different perspective... it forces critical thinking.. ... perhaps this is the only thing that some of want... Critical Thinking!

It is not about being right.. Mastan or I might not be right... that is not the point to achieve... it is about creating/shapping a dialectic framework... that helps us see things as they are... anyhow.... it is what it is.


@Horus @Major Sam @Oscar @WebMaster @waz @Dubious my dear Paks... should go for banning us... kindly, give a head start so that we can bid proper goodbye!


@Khafee @MastanKhan ...if you have time... do go through this piece... I have pointed a few vectors in this hybridwar... coming to head. https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-hybrid-war-on-hybrid-war-in-pakisan.616912/


I strongly believe that economic front was destroyed with design...yes.. it is also byproduct of loot and plunder... but malaise is deeper..appears to be by design...

The Greatest Game is on.... and Pak State is not going for the kill...of those present within Pak.

A Circle is as strong as its Centre!

 

[Lincoln]

Nice to see Mullah lovers on this thread, get their knickers in a twist!

Not a Mullah lover. But whatever allows you to deal with the fact your country literally being treated as a scapegoat by Trump.

 

[Khafee]

Hi,

Some say ' hindsight 20/20 '---other say---' you should have thought about the consequences before hand'---' you should have thought about who you are---what your assets are---what your friends and allies need---what concerns your enemy---what assets that you have that your enemy does not want you to have---& what could the enemy do to remove those assets '---.

I seriously think that is a statement that shows like something too much to ask---even to a pakistani military General officer in command---because most of their interest lies in housing schemes---property---commissions---war on terror & things on similar line & length---India---.

The there is the mantra of tactical nucs---. Well the problem with that mantra is that the super power does not like that mantra---. The religionist evangelicals in the regime want to de-fang pakistan---and the only people who did not know abut that was the pakistani military generals---who sitting secure in their offices believed their assets are secure---I mean to say the nucs---.

What america does in front of everyone's face is that it keeps its enemies farthest away from the mainland---and keeps troops at out posts distant from the mainland and tells everyone what the reason is---yet the pakistani generals never understood it---the current pakistani prime minister does not understand it either---.

Pakistanis in general have a belief---don't bother us---we will not bother you---what they tend to forget is that they have around 200 nucs that can destroy the world---so the baby that wants to make itself look innocent singing gaga maybe innocent in its own mind---but to the outside world---it looks like a death wish come true---.

So---the nation that does not know its own strength---does not understand what steps it needed to take to expand to protect its assets---has no understanding and concept of having military bases outside of pakistan at critical locations---having no concept of having those assets---is basically clueless of its environment---.

And that was very obvious when the Yemen crisis started---. That was the time for pakistan to have understood what was at stake---what was going to happen---what was coming in the short term near future and what the long term future game plan of the opponent was---and then it should have gone ahead and firmed firmed up its grip on the region as was being permitted by the super power---.

The super power USA gave the region of the gulf states on a platter to pakistan---and the fools rejected it---. The terms used were---we don't want a war---we will not participate in a war---we are not mercenaries---even though all the conquests of the muslim empire were mercenary armies---all the great muslim warriors were mercenaries---payment was in loot and plunder---'maal a ghanimat '---.

Why did pakistan not do what it should have done---was just to please iran---and what was iran to pakistan---a muslim brother---and what was pakistan to iran---a fcking inferior dark skin nuc capable country---.

Pakistani generals have sold the integrity of the pakistani nation and the future welfare of the country trying to side with a pariah nation---a nation whose sole and only purpose is to create havoc in the region---.

If pakistan had a 150 K battle group in the gulf states---backed by a seperate air force---armor--- navy & transporation---the US would not be sending in its naval battle group and there would not have been any talk of 100K american troops in the region or the B52's striking iran---.

There would not have been any pulwama type attacks---because the indian power would have been neutered or lessened by the presnce of pakistani troops in the region---thus no attacks by indian air force on the night of the 26th---.

General Raheel---sir---you truly failed pakistan---when it was time to make some hard & timely decisions to move the pakistani military influence from outside of its borders and into the gulf region---.

I write this post seeing what is happening in the gulf---what the US military is doing in the gulf in the last few weeks and what their plans are---. Mastankhan

Yemen is a stepping stone to an attack on Makkah, and that has already happened. Yet you have these clueless kids who are Irani 1st and Pakistani 2nd.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-yemen-rebel-missile-near-mecca-idUSKBN1AD0WD

Not a Mullah lover. But whatever allows you to deal with the fact your country literally being treated as a scapegoat by Trump.

Sure you are, nonetheless, whatever you may call us, the avg citizen enjoys a better quality of life. So keep on crying and howling.

 

[Lincoln]

Sure you are, nonetheless, whatever you may call us, the avg citizen enjoys a better quality of life. So keep on crying and howling.

Sorry to hurt the soft spot of America's National Kitty.

 

[The Accountant]

Hi,

Some say ' hindsight 20/20 '---other say---' you should have thought about the consequences before hand'---' you should have thought about who you are---what your assets are---what your friends and allies need---what concerns your enemy---what assets that you have that your enemy does not want you to have---& what could the enemy do to remove those assets '---.

I seriously think that is a statement that shows like something too much to ask---even to a pakistani military General officer in command---because most of their interest lies in housing schemes---property---commissions---war on terror & things on similar line & length---India---.

The there is the mantra of tactical nucs---. Well the problem with that mantra is that the super power does not like that mantra---. The religionist evangelicals in the regime want to de-fang pakistan---and the only people who did not know abut that was the pakistani military generals---who sitting secure in their offices believed their assets are secure---I mean to say the nucs---.

What america does in front of everyone's face is that it keeps its enemies farthest away from the mainland---and keeps troops at out posts distant from the mainland and tells everyone what the reason is---yet the pakistani generals never understood it---the current pakistani prime minister does not understand it either---.

Pakistanis in general have a belief---don't bother us---we will not bother you---what they tend to forget is that they have around 200 nucs that can destroy the world---so the baby that wants to make itself look innocent singing gaga maybe innocent in its own mind---but to the outside world---it looks like a death wish come true---.

So---the nation that does not know its own strength---does not understand what steps it needed to take to expand to protect its assets---has no understanding and concept of having military bases outside of pakistan at critical locations---having no concept of having those assets---is basically clueless of its environment---.

And that was very obvious when the Yemen crisis started---. That was the time for pakistan to have understood what was at stake---what was going to happen---what was coming in the short term near future and what the long term future game plan of the opponent was---and then it should have gone ahead and firmed firmed up its grip on the region as was being permitted by the super power---.

The super power USA gave the region of the gulf states on a platter to pakistan---and the fools rejected it---. The terms used were---we don't want a war---we will not participate in a war---we are not mercenaries---even though all the conquests of the muslim empire were mercenary armies---all the great muslim warriors were mercenaries---payment was in loot and plunder---'maal a ghanimat '---.

Why did pakistan not do what it should have done---was just to please iran---and what was iran to pakistan---a muslim brother---and what was pakistan to iran---a fcking inferior dark skin nuc capable country---.

Pakistani generals have sold the integrity of the pakistani nation and the future welfare of the country trying to side with a pariah nation---a nation whose sole and only purpose is to create havoc in the region---.

If pakistan had a 150 K battle group in the gulf states---backed by a seperate air force---armor--- navy & transporation---the US would not be sending in its naval battle group and there would not have been any talk of 100K american troops in the region or the B52's striking iran---.

There would not have been any pulwama type attacks---because the indian power would have been neutered or lessened by the presnce of pakistani troops in the region---thus no attacks by indian air force on the night of the 26th---.

General Raheel---sir---you truly failed pakistan---when it was time to make some hard & timely decisions to move the pakistani military influence from outside of its borders and into the gulf region---.

I write this post seeing what is happening in the gulf---what the US military is doing in the gulf in the last few weeks and what their plans are---. Mastankhan

Yemen War is a war but two regional rivals which are hell bent upon destroying each others ... Rather than focus on short cut approaches of getting the required weaponry Pakistan should follow the policy followed by our beloved Prophet SAW, or in recent time by China and Turkey.

First work on your strengthening yourself internally ... Become a power economically and you will not be required to join another's war ...

We should find long term solutions of our problem and not the short term as short term solution will keep on haunting you back and will create even more trouble ... Afghanistan conflict is the biggest example of that

 

[Khafee]

Sorry to hurt the soft spot of America's National Kitty.

You didn't have to expose your inferiority complex, and how clueless you are, but its all good

 

[Rusty]

Why not surrender to India and live in peace


Oh sorry you are sweepers for rich Arabs OP forgot it

Personal insults are the last refuge for low lives.

Why must Pakistan's dealing with other countries always be India centric?

Arabs need to meet our interests before we meet theirs.

 

[Mrc]

Yes @Horus ban him!

We don't need intellectuals like him on a Defence forum, who are not held hostage by a minority, and can actually think and strategize. People like him and @Mangus Ortus Novem raise the level of this forum, put perma bans on them!

Ok so which side we shud have joined Shia or sunni???? Cause we are both in this country


West is full of drunkard loser intellectuals like him

 

[Khafee]

Ok so which side we shud have joined Shia or sunny???? Cause we are both in this country

The side defending Makkah from Ballistic missiles.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-yemen-rebel-missile-near-mecca-idUSKBN1AD0WD

 

[Rusty]

Hi,

What friggin lala land are you living in---.

All your great muslims warriors were mercenaries---.

You and the likes of you are the enemies of pakistan---. Pak military could have gone in ---and who would have control of the region---pak military---and who would be kicked out---the indians---.

Tell me, is Pakistan your grandfather's?
Who are you do declare who is an enemy and who is not?

If you love to lose wars with Arabs so much, put your money where you mouth is and join their military.
They will even pay you big money to do so.

Real enemies of pakistan want to send our young men to die in the desert of Arabia for no benefit for pakistan.

 

[Mrc]

The side defending Makkah from Ballistic missiles.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-yemen-rebel-missile-near-mecca-idUSKBN1AD0WD

Mecca is for all Muslims... Not takfeeri scums personal property

@Horus.. Really??