Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

[Khan vilatey]

you see the small antennas on the aircraft they are foe ECM/EW

so don't be afraid!


When a radar is switched on its affect is like turning on a torch in the middle of the darkest night with no moon or stars, you will be visible Thanks to sensors that exist now. there is a reason why S400 is so mobile and not a stationary system.

Yes but in your example, there are two real possibilities

1)keep the torch off and no one knows where s-400 is but you get limited targets in passive mode.

2) keep the torch off and moving but if you are in a conflict situation you will sooner or later need to find a spot and turn the torch on.

the question then is do we go after the torch when it’s on with let’s say raad or Babar? If we do get 2-3 s-400 torches we have caused India 3ish billion dollar cost and massive holes in their air defence which they have not trained for.

I personally would take the risk and exploit the weakness. But I am a man who likes to take risks....

thoughts ....

Kv

 

[Path-Finder]

Yes but in your example, there are two real possibilities

1)keep the torch off and no one knows where s-400 is but you get limited targets in passive mode.

2) keep the torch off and moving but if you are in a conflict situation you will sooner or later need to find a spot and turn the torch on.

the question then is do we go after the torch when it’s on with let’s say raad or Babar? If we do get 2-3 s-400 torches we have caused India 3ish billion dollar cost and massive holes in their air defence which they have not trained for.

I personally would take the risk and exploit the weakness. But I am a man who likes to take risks....

thoughts ....

Kv

it is a cat and mouse game. recently nato launched a massive strike using various type SOM against a target in syria. some of them were intercepted by AD and later remenintes of the cruise missiles were displayed in the kremlin for media. But it proved one thing not all of them can be intercepted provided the volume used is substantially large as only a few are needed to hit the intended target.

S400 will protect a high value target. is that high value target on PAF's hit list? if so then that is where best minds will strategize on how to strike the target. No system is 100% foolproof and ways exist to exploit their weaknesses.

 

[Khan vilatey]

it is a cat and mouse game. recently nato launched a massive strike using various type SOM against a target in syria. some of them were intercepted by AD and later remenintes of the cruise missiles were displayed in the kremlin for media. But it proved one thing not all of them can be intercepted provided the volume used is substantially large as only a few are needed to hit the intended target.

S400 will protect a high value target. is that high value target on PAF's hit list? if so then that is where best minds will strategize on how to strike the target. No system is 100% foolproof and ways exist to exploit their weaknesses.

agreed, I don’t think they have enough for blanket air defence. There are only 5 batteries with 2~3 at best on our border

regards
Kv

 

[Path-Finder]

agreed, I don’t think they have enough for blanket air defence. There are only 5 batteries with 2~3 at best on our border

regards
Kv

this may be of interest to you.

 

[Khan vilatey]

this may be of interest to you.

Very informative, if we buy hq9b and fd2000 combination with at least 10 batteries each we can have similar results against IAF

KV

I looked up the Yugoslavia air campaign and found a completely one sided war with soooo many losses in the anti nato group. here is a quick read

Strength
NATO Casualties and losses
3 jet fighters destroyed
2 helicopters destroyed
21 UAVs destroyed
3 jet fighters damaged
2 soldiers killed (non-combat helicopter crash)
3 soldiers captured 631–1,200 killed

Yugoslavia losses
5,173 wounded
52 missing
120 tanks destroyed
220 APCs destroyed
450 artillery pieces destroyed (according to NATO)
121 aircraft destroyed
Economic losses of $29.6 billion[19]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia

still cool to see a F117 downed

KV

 

[Falcon26]

it is a cat and mouse game. recently nato launched a massive strike using various type SOM against a target in syria. some of them were intercepted by AD and later remenintes of the cruise missiles were displayed in the kremlin for media. But it proved one thing not all of them can be intercepted provided the volume used is substantially large as only a few are needed to hit the intended target.

S400 will protect a high value target. is that high value target on PAF's hit list? if so then that is where best minds will strategize on how to strike the target. No system is 100% foolproof and ways exist to exploit their weaknesses.

link?

 

[Path-Finder]

link?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...yria-air-defences-shot-down-majority-missiles

 

[Falcon26]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...yria-air-defences-shot-down-majority-missiles

thanks

 

[mshan44]

 

[cw2005]

this may be of interest to you.

I would like to add : 6. keep the war going for long time and 7. pull out before the job is done.

 

[airomerix]

2 brand new SAAB Erieye AEW&C to join PAF this year

A new squadron is to be raised of AEW&C at Bholari AFB to cover the eastern sector.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

2 brand new SAAB Erieye AEW&C to join PAF this year

A new squadron is to be raised of AEW&C at Bholari AFB to cover the eastern sector.

From the 3 kits we recently ordered???

 

[Keysersoze]

2 brand new SAAB Erieye AEW&C to join PAF this year

A new squadron is to be raised of AEW&C at Bholari AFB to cover the eastern sector.

The only issue with this is the number of Saab 2000 air frames available. Spare parts might be an issue.

 

[airomerix]

The only issue with this is the number of Saab 2000 air frames available. Spare parts might be an issue.

PAC Kamra has substantial experience in the manufacturing of critical components of SAAB 2000.

It should not be a major issue.

From the 3 kits we recently ordered???

Yes. One is a passenger version and two are AEW&C.

 

[Apex]

2 brand new SAAB Erieye AEW&C to join PAF this year

A new squadron is to be raised of AEW&C at Bholari AFB to cover the eastern sector.