Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

[Pakistani Fighter]

PESA on the K3s.

U mean ZDK 3s?

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

The Erieye AEW&C looks like a good deal. Once the PAF absorbed the upfront logistics and maintenance costs, each additional Erieye costs like $70-90 m per system off the shelf. So, if the PAF wants additional Erieye AEW&C, it can get them at a decent cost (not that it's looking to do so, it's just an option).

For the Erieye ER, you would have to reset the entire process, and probably end up spending $200-250 m per system, easily.

In other words, there's no "upgrading," if the PAF really wants the Erieye-ER, it would need to look at expanding the AEW&C fleet even further. Since the PAF has reached its originally intended goal of 6 Erieye AEW&C plus 4 KE AWACS, I doubt it's interested in adding AEW&C.

If anything, the goal right now is probably replacing the low-level and gap filler radars with a new AESA-based design. You could also argue the case of adding stand-off EW aircraft, either through pods on JF-17s (and F-16A/B MLUs) or VIP jets.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

The Erieye AEW&C looks like a good deal. Once the PAF absorbed the upfront logistics and maintenance costs, each additional Erieye costs like $70-90 m per system off the shelf. So, if the PAF wants additional Erieye AEW&C, it can get them at a decent cost (not that it's looking to do so, it's just an option).

For the Erieye ER, you would have to reset the entire process, and probably end up spending $200-250 m per system, easily.

In other words, there's no "upgrading," if the PAF really wants the Erieye-ER, it would need to look at expanding the AEW&C fleet even further. Since the PAF has reached its originally intended goal of 6 Erieye AEW&C plus 4 KE AWACS, I doubt it's interested in adding AEW&C.

If anything, the goal right now is probably replacing the low-level and gap filler radars with a new AESA-based design. You could also argue the case of adding stand-off EW aircraft, either through pods on JF-17s (and F-16A/B MLUs) or VIP jets.

So all our 10 AWACs have AESA radars?

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

So all our 10 AWACs have AESA radars?

The 6 Erieye AEW&C are AESA, but I don't know about the KE, no one officially said it (or didn't) uses an AESA radar. Possible, but can't say.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Pakistan should upgrade all its Erieyes to ER Standard

You can swap the radar but the radar itself is just a piece of the puzzle.

 

[Cookie Monster]

The Erieye AEW&C looks like a good deal. Once the PAF absorbed the upfront logistics and maintenance costs, each additional Erieye costs like $70-90 m per system off the shelf. So, if the PAF wants additional Erieye AEW&C, it can get them at a decent cost (not that it's looking to do so, it's just an option).

For the Erieye ER, you would have to reset the entire process, and probably end up spending $200-250 m per system, easily.

In other words, there's no "upgrading," if the PAF really wants the Erieye-ER, it would need to look at expanding the AEW&C fleet even further. Since the PAF has reached its originally intended goal of 6 Erieye AEW&C plus 4 KE AWACS, I doubt it's interested in adding AEW&C.

If anything, the goal right now is probably replacing the low-level and gap filler radars with a new AESA-based design. You could also argue the case of adding stand-off EW aircraft, either through pods on JF-17s (and F-16A/B MLUs) or VIP jets.

I agree...the current quantity(6+4) of AWACS aircrafts and the range currently is enough to satisfactorily serve the intended purpose. Yes ER would of course give added advantage but the cost isn't worth the upgrade(yet)...especially when the money(if available) can be used for so many other things rn. Adding more radar coverage(ground based radars) and possibly air defense systems should definitely take more priority over AWAC upgradation at the moment. Not to mention so many other things on the wishlist of fanboys like me(rumored F16 upgrades plus new airframes, rumored J15 flankers, possibly a Mirage replacement somewhere down the line)...
If wishes were cookies...Cookie Monsters would feast

 

[Pakistan Ka Beta]

The 6 Erieye AEW&C are AESA, but I don't know about the KE, no one officially said it (or didn't) uses an AESA radar. Possible, but can't say.

Sir sorry to mention u , All 3 Erieye AEW&C which were ordered around 2017 are operational now ???

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Yeah, 'so soon'

When were they delivered???

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Sir sorry to mention u , All 3 Erieye AEW&C which were ordered around 2017 are operational now ???

Not sure, but they were delivered, and they will become operational (if not already).

 

[Pakistan Ka Beta]

Not sure, but they were delivered, and they will become operational (if not already).

Thank you sir . Stay Blessed .

 

[Zarvan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1182507519832444928

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@Quwa @Dazzler @Signalian

11 AWACs 7 SAAB and 4 from China. The two which were destroyed I have heard that Air Show several times and the officer clearly says the two which were damaged both were recovered and are operational. If he is not lying that we have 11 AWACS in total.

Here is the video of the show and it clearly says both were recovered. Start watching from 21st minute.

@Path-Finder @Tipu7 @Sulman Badshah @Horus @The Eagle @Windjammer @Arsalan @Dazzler @jaibi @Slav Defence

 

[Path-Finder]

11 AWACs 7 SAAB and 4 from China. The two which were destroyed I have heard that Air Show several times and the officer clearly says the two which were damaged both were recovered and are operational. If he is not lying that we have 11 AWACS in total.

Here is the video of the show and it clearly says both were recovered. Start watching from 21st minute.

@Path-Finder @Tipu7 @Sulman Badshah @Horus @The Eagle @Windjammer @Arsalan @Dazzler @jaibi @Slav Defence

zabardast, hazrat @Zarvan ittay nazar whi pao zara
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/ideas-2018-from-my-camera.589663/page-9#post-12063815

 

[mshan44]

 

[khanasifm]

 

[Khan vilatey]

I have a strategic question, how will Indian s-400 deployments affect our AWACS assets will they need to fly deeper in Pakistan reducing our detection range?

KV