Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

[Bratva]

Well sir i have seen some posts which claims that an ereiye was destroyed in kamra attack. Is this true?

Yes One was destroyed and no it is not better than IAF phalcon

 

[shaheenmissile]

Yes One was destroyed and no it is not better than IAF phalcon

radar range is same

 

[nomi007]

 

[fatman17]

ZDK-03 touching down

Saab Transport to be converted to Erieye.

 

[thrilainmanila]

do the zdk-03 really have AESA Capability, and if thats true does it make it more powerful then the saab2000s radar. how many eyeries are left or are all destroyed?

 

[shaheenmissile]

do the zdk-03 really have AESA Capability, and if thats true does it make it more powerful then the saab2000s radar. how many eyeries are left or are all destroyed?

Pakistan has complete control over ZDK-03 and can modify/ improve the ship as and when they want. No such luxury with erieye.

 

[thrilainmanila]

Pakistan has complete control over ZDK-03 and can modify/ improve the ship as and when they want. No such luxury with erieye.

but do we still have the eyerie or did all 3 get destroyed

 

[shaheenmissile]

but do we still have the eyerie or did all 3 get destroyed

nobody knows.........

 

[aliyusuf]

nobody knows.........

Slightly less than 2 years back I read a google translated swedish article (a portion of it) posted in PakistaniDefenceForum ... which was actually screaming at their lawmakers not to pass a bill to provide credit to Pakistan for the repair and restoration of two Erieye based Saab 2000 air crafts. It also stated that one Saab 2000 had been completely destroyed. It further argued that the lawmakers shouldn't allow the tax payers hard earned money to be wasted for a country that could not protect it's vital assets in peacetime. The tone of the article was quite unflattering towards Pakistan.

Hence in my opinion ... 1 got totally destroyed ... 2 got damaged in varying degrees (but deemed salvageable) ... 1 EriEye Operational.

 

[shaheenmissile]

Slightly less than 2 years back I read a google translated swedish article (a portion of it) posted in PakistaniDefenceForum ... which was actually screaming at their lawmakers not to pass a bill to provide credit to Pakistan for the repair and restoration of two Erieye based Saab 2000 air crafts. It also stated that one Saab 2000 had been completely destroyed. It further argued that the lawmakers shouldn't allow the tax payers hard earned money to be wasted for a country that could not protect it's vital assets in peacetime. The tone of the article was quite unflattering towards Pakistan.

Hence in my opinion ... 1 got totally destroyed ... 2 got damaged in varying degrees (but deemed salvageable) ... 1 EriEye Operational.

that article was screaming for the actual purchase loan.The erieye purchase was financed by a loan given by Swedish government.
After the attacks no official news ever came out about the erieye,except some statements by defence secretary of GOP.

 

[aliyusuf]

that article was screaming for the actual purchase loan.The erieye purchase was financed by a loan given by Swedish government.
After the attacks no official news ever came out about the erieye,except some statements by defence secretary of GOP.

The article does make reference to independent sources that 1 got destroyed and 2 were damaged and Pakistan were seeking to get them repaired ...

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Two independent sources say the Di that one of Erieyeplanen was completely destroyed and the other two planes are so severely injured that they have to undergo repairs.

In practice, the Swedish tax money which has now gone up in smoke in a Taliban attack. State Swedish Export has namely funded plan through a credit agreement of 7.4 billion concluded 2006th

In May 2012 came the final order, and only a few months later - in August - beating the Taliban.

It is about the Pakistani Air Force Perhaps the single most valuable asset, and not just the purchase price of SEK 7 billion. Erieye is counted as one of the most advanced surveillance systems and has made it possible for Pakistan to have full control over what happens in the air, and to a large extent on the ground.

Only one of the four Erieyeplanen escaped the attack. It was elsewhere in Pakistan.

Government of Pakistan is now very anxious to get the two damaged planes repaired with Saab's help and discussions have taken place at express speed.

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[Kompromat]

There is no evidence of any destroyed Erieye. The report is bogus as all Erieyes weren't stationed together.

 

[shaheenmissile]

The article does make reference to independent sources that 1 got destroyed and 2 were damaged and Pakistan were seeking to get them repaired ...

That one is 10040
The rest are either destroyed in a smokeless fire or hidden somewhere.

There is no evidence of any destroyed Erieye. The report is bogus as all Erieyes weren't stationed together.

Terrorists went Northwards that night. Fuel tank was hot,but no other fire was seen. Erieye were kept in these three hangers. Whether all three hangers were inhabited that night or not,that is not known.

 

[Kompromat]

^ Yes, there's no 'evidence' to prove the destruction of any Erieye.

 

[ares]

^ Yes, there's no 'evidence' to prove the destruction of any Erieye.

Except PAF chiefs interview with Alan Warnes where he talks about the destroyed AWACS at Minhas and in statement by pakistani defence secretary in the national assembly.

Feb 6-9/13: Revelations. Defence Secretary Lt. Gen. (ret.) Asif Yasin Malik informs Pakistan’s National Assembly Standing Committee on Defence that the defence installations saw their last attacks in Peshawar and the Kamra airbase, but adds that an AWACS plane was destroyed during the attack on Kamra AB in August 2012. Initially, it isn’t clear which AWACS plane type he’s referring to, but a subsequent report by Pakistan’s The News International confirms that it was one of Saab’s S2000 AEW planes.

That’s a bit awkward, because Pakistani authorities have apparently been claiming for the last 6 months that the attack had just damaged an aircraft’s nose cone, and that it would be repaired in Sweden. The report also refers to “one of the four” planes, which would finally provide a reliable number.

Speaking of reliable numbers, the report quotes varied prices per plane of $130-140 million, up to $250 million. It’s true that the final, reduced deal was worth about $1 billion, so dividing by 4 does get $250 million. On the other hand, any purchase like this must also include extensive training, a full stock of spare parts, and extensive initial support. A $140 million per plane figure implies a split of $560 million planes (140 x 4) + $440 million support etc. That seems high, but it all depends on the level of support provided. The News International

| TNI follow-on

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March 21/13: Need a fix. Saab announces a 5-year, SEK 1.1 billion ($170 million) contract that runs from 2013-2017, and covers “a comprehensive set of spares and support services for a previously delivered system, Saab 2000 AEW&C (Airborne Early Warning & Control).” Unfortunately, “The industry’s nature is such that depending on circumstances concerning the product and customer, information regarding the customer will not be announced.”

The answer seemed obvious. Air forces using Saab turboprop AWACS include Sweden, Thailand and the UAE (Saab 340), and Pakistan and Saudi Arabia (stretched Saab 2000 variant). Pakistan’s sale is well known and hasn’t been secret, so a Saab 2000 AEW&C customer insisting on secrecy must mean… Saudi Arabia.

Except that we might have been wrong. What even the February revelations in Pakistan hadn’t disclosed is that the attack on Minhas AB in Pakistan happened with 3 Erieye planes on the ground. One was destroyed – but 2 others were very badly damaged. That leaves Pakistan with a fleet of just 1 plane, until it gets those 2 fixed. That could explain this $170 million contract, with the sudden secrecy invoked because Pakistan doesn’t want to publicly admit the extent of the loss; indeed, if Saab doesn’t announce a separate SEK 1+ billion support contract soon, the default assumption for this deal must become Pakistan.

The problem for Sweden, says Sweden’s Dagens Industri in an April 10/13 article, is that the original purchase was funded by a 2006 credit arrangement of SEK 7.4 billion from the Swedish Export Credit and Export Credits Guarantee Board. Now they’ll have to add SEK 1+ billion to cover this, all to a country that isn’t viewed as a terrific credit risk. Our Swedish source says that Dagen Industri is about to break a follow-on story involving “questionable commissions” related to the sale. No, we’re not shocked, either. But Sweden has laws that will be enforced, even if Pakistan’s aren’t. Saab Group

|Dagens Industri

[in Swedish].
Aerial Eyes: Pakistan’s New AWACS Fleets