Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

[Jango]

Ohhh man .... Why you no understand !....
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....P.S. I have images AFM's Highmarks edition, gimme your mail address so i could send you. i cannot message any body here cus i am way too below 9000 posts.

I completely understand it my friend. You said in the link you gave that it was 10049, and that created the confusion. That if the one in your pic was 49, then the one in my pic would have to be 45. But now since you were mistaken in that post, and it was indeed 49, it is all clear now. It is 09049 in both pics, you wrongly wrote it as 10049.

Yeah, no PM so here is my email.

SE-045 should be delivered, it has been 2 years since 2010!!!

And anyway, my source indicates that we have 4 AWACS in service, along with the one VIP.

 

[Jango]

Were these aircraft repainted at any time of their service within PAF?

10040 in one pic looks white, while all the rest AWACS are grey.

 

[Safriz]

Hello...
Can somebody comment on the credibility of this website?

It gives 5 diferent serial numbers of SAAB-200 and says all 5 are "Active"..

Saab 2000 Production List - Planespotters.net Just Aviation

10025 025 Saab 2000 AEW&C 05-2010 Active SE-025
10040 040 Saab 2000 AEW&C 02-07-2010 Active SE-040
10045 045 Saab 2000 AEW&C 03-10-2011 Active SE-045
10049 049 Saab 2000 AEW&C 23-02-2010 Active SE-049
J-019 019 Saab 2000 AEW&C 26-09-2008 Active SE-019

Operator Aircraft List Pakistan - Planespotters.net Just Aviation
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Further history of Airframe search reveals..

SE-049 was previously F-GMVG and was operated by a French Airline from 1997-2001

SE-045 was previously LY-SBW and was operated by Lituanian airlines until 2009

SE-040 has no recorded History

SE-025 has no recorded history

SE-019 has no recorded history


That means at least two of the aircrafts are second hand....

and there are 5 SAAB-2000 registered in PAF's name

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Kindly comment on the above data and its authenticity...

 

[SQ8]

Hello...
Can somebody comment on the credibility of this website?

It gives 5 diferent serial numbers of SAAB-200 and says all 5 are "Active"..

Saab 2000 Production List - Planespotters.net Just Aviation

10025 025 Saab 2000 AEW&C 05-2010 Active SE-025
10040 040 Saab 2000 AEW&C 02-07-2010 Active SE-040
10045 045 Saab 2000 AEW&C 03-10-2011 Active SE-045
10049 049 Saab 2000 AEW&C 23-02-2010 Active SE-049
J-019 019 Saab 2000 AEW&C 26-09-2008 Active SE-019

Operator Aircraft List Pakistan - Planespotters.net Just Aviation

One is the training aircraft.. and the status of one is undetermined despite all the claims and rumors flying around.

 

[Safriz]

One is the training aircraft.. and the status of one is undetermined despite all the claims and rumors flying around.

Another thing is that all aircrafts come up as

First flight date 26/06/1997

 

[SQ8]

Another thing is that all aircrafts come up as

First flight date 26/06/1997

Because all these airframes were sourced second hand.

 

[Safriz]

Because all these airframes were sourced second hand.

But all the aircrafts do come up on Database as "Active" .
I can only assume that none has been Decommissioned or Scrapped as of yet,or PAF has informed international Authorities for Collision avoidance and air traffic control purposes...

 

[VCheng]

But all the aircrafts do come up on Database as "Active" .
I can only assume that none has been Decommissioned or Scrapped as of yet,or PAF has informed international Authorities for Collision avoidance and air traffic control purposes...

The damaged plane likely has a punctured front pressure bulkhead, and whether repair is possible, and if so, how to best do it, would take quite a while.

 

[Safriz]

Pakistan's "Airforce one" is also coming up as a Reworked/Reconditioned Aircraft instead of New..

AP-OOI Airbus A-310-304 A310 473 L2J 763DE9 GLAM Pakistan Air Force 1989 F-WWCC 2007-02-27 A7-AAF active

Was with Qatar Government as VIP plane as F-ODSV from 1998(New)-2001
Then with Qatar Airways from 2001-2007 as A7-AAF
Now from 2007 with PAF as AP-OOI

 

[araz]

The damaged plane likely has a punctured front pressure bulkhead, and whether repair is possible, and if so, how to best do it, would take quite a while.

Could possibly answer and tie up all the different versions and interpretations flying about. We need to wait and see what happens.
Araz

 

[VCheng]

Could possibly answer and tie up all the different versions and interpretations flying about. We need to wait and see what happens.
Araz

Of course. I am sure that contingency planning already has taken care of the temporary reduction of one Erieye system, and further planning will return PAF capabilities in this area to full capacity soon enough.

 

[Edevelop]

When PIA retires Airbus A-310, could we convert them into our own AWACS or as Air Refulers ?

 

[andyfisher]

Bro VCheng,

I am not sure what full capacity you are speaking of mate.

AWACs are supposed to be a state's eye in the sky..to protect its territory and to mge its air assets, no?

It's a fact that pak does not have full control of its own defences, the yanks took care of that (ie when bro osama was murdered) and not to mention the continued incursion of aghan, ind and any other nation over pak territory.

pak as a state is in full rot..it does not have full sovereignty over its territory.

think of the israelis..they shot down a yank asset even though it was their erstwhile ally...does pak have the fortitude to do the same wen there is an 'incursion' so as to properly say it has full control over its territory? No..so what is the point of having awacs aka eye in the sky..they might as well sell the whole lot for scrap, get chn crap weaponry for show and beg the yanks just like any other muslim country bro.

Of course. I am sure that contingency planning already has taken care of the temporary reduction of one Erieye system, and further planning will return PAF capabilities in this area to full capacity soon enough.

 

[VCheng]

When PIA retires Airbus A-310, could we convert them into our own AWACS or as Air Refulers ?

The A-310 can be retrofitted to function as an air refueler as the MRTT:

Airbus A310 MRTT - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Whether it is cost-effective for the capabilities offered is quite another matter.

 

[razgriz19]

Hello...
Can somebody comment on the credibility of this website?

It gives 5 diferent serial numbers of SAAB-200 and says all 5 are "Active"..

Saab 2000 Production List - Planespotters.net Just Aviation

10025 025 Saab 2000 AEW&C 05-2010 Active SE-025
10040 040 Saab 2000 AEW&C 02-07-2010 Active SE-040
10045 045 Saab 2000 AEW&C 03-10-2011 Active SE-045
10049 049 Saab 2000 AEW&C 23-02-2010 Active SE-049
J-019 019 Saab 2000 AEW&C 26-09-2008 Active SE-019

Operator Aircraft List Pakistan - Planespotters.net Just Aviation
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Further history of Airframe search reveals..

SE-049 was previously F-GMVG and was operated by a French Airline from 1997-2001

SE-045 was previously LY-SBW and was operated by Lituanian airlines until 2009

SE-040 has no recorded History

SE-025 has no recorded history

SE-019 has no recorded history


That means at least two of the aircrafts are second hand....

and there are 5 SAAB-2000 registered in PAF's name

************************************************** ************

Kindly comment on the above data and its authenticity...

all saab 2000 aircrafts are second hand. the aircraft went out of production long time ago.
but these airframes are capable of flying for two more decades atleast.