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Pakistan's acquisition of the U-214

Is it obvious for you to reply to every post with a bad taste or is it because this is the way you really are.:rolleyes:
Cutting of steel (meant in context) or the U-boat actually sailing in Pakistan are one and the same thing, meaning the deal is final and we know for sure that PN will indeed get the U-boats whether we buy one as per rumors or the steel is cut and the maunfacture begins specifically for PN. Till then i will hold by breath and not get carried away as seem to be the case here with many afterall lets not forget who's running the show these days in Pakistan, had it be Musharraf i too would have felt relieved with the news.

you have a serious attitude problem and its pretty much evident from your posts that its you who has to reply to every post with a really bad tastes.
reread your post first before you try to act some sort of a smart :bunny: with me.
I'll believe when the first steel is cut for the manufacture of U-214 meant for PN.
Make it clear for the rest of the defence.pk members what you mean and answer to them without blowing your heads away :hitwall: because cutting of steel does not mean this, however you have clarified with your own version of context.
Cutting of steel (meant in context) or the U-boat actually sailing in Pakistan
 
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let us not spoil the party, for those who want to get confirmed fine enough as we must be prepared for worst,,
for tose who waant to prepare for celebrations right now, fine enough doe them also as we shold hope for the best.

i sincerely hope this resolves the issue so that we can start heraing some real informative posts from both Sir. Icecold and MR. Growler!!

regards!
 
you have a serious attitude problem and its pretty much evident from your posts that its you who has to reply to every post with a really bad tastes.
reread your post first before you try to act some sort of a smart :bunny: with me.

Make it clear for the rest of the defence.pk members what you mean and answer to them without blowing your heads away :hitwall: because cutting of steel does not mean this, however you have clarified with your own version of context.

Listen up i am not interested in your BS. This is the second time you have poked your nose where it doesnt belong and for no reason at all. If you have comprehension issues thats not my problem. Use common sense where its needed instead of ranting everytime.
By the way genius i never mentioned Karachi in my post i said i will believe when the first steel is cut to manufacture the U boat meant for PN. Obviously if we buy an already built U-boat there is no point left behind in not believing.
 
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Listen up i am not interested in your BS. This is the second time you have poked your nose where it doesnt belong and for no reason at all. If you have comprehension issues thats not my problem. Use common sense where its needed instead of ranting everytime.
By the way genius i never mentioned Karachi in my post i said i will believe when the first steel is cut to manufacture the U boat meant for PN. Obviously if we buy an already built U-boat there is no point left behind in not believing.

Keep :hitwall: like a mad person because thats what you are. Just to let you know this is a public forum not your MSN where i need your permission and i am allergic to bullS so i will make dam sure to keep a check where its needed.
Use common sense? What if your post has no logic?
I'll believe when the first steel is cut for the manufacture of U-214 meant for PN.
common sense would be that you did not know of the fact that Papanikolis is on offer for PN and could possibly buy straight away so what Steel is their to cut? oh i see "Cutting of steel (meant in context) or the U-boat actually sailing in Pakistan", what a common sense. If you dont want me to reply to your posts then fine.. just dont post.
 
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Keep :hitwall: like a mad person because thats what you are. Just to let you know this is a public forum not your MSN where i need your permission and i am allergic to bullS so i will make dam sure to keep a check where its needed.
Use common sense? What if your post has no logic?

common sense would be that you did not know of the fact that Papanikolis is on offer for PN and could possibly buy straight away so what Steel is their to cut? oh i see "Cutting of steel (meant in context) or the U-boat actually sailing in Pakistan", what a common sense. If you dont want me to reply to your posts then fine.. just dont post.

Seriously how **** head could one be? First of all i said i will believe when the first steel is cut, problem with kids like you is you cant take a difference of opinion, you are so busy in your la la land that if some one gives or even tires to give a reality check, you guys go all ballistic.:disagree:
Like i said i am not interested in picking up a fight with you, you dont seem a logic in my post( and the feeling is mutual), fine by me, dont bother replying. Also genius it was more of an expression of personal opinion that i will believe the deal is final when the first steel is cut. Heck the contract isnt signed yet and here i dont understand what the **** are you smoking and babbling about. How about you pass some of that stuff here as well let me see is it the stuff or your level of intellect is so low that you are simply unable to comprehend a expression of opinion.
 
Seriously how **** head could one be?
your are certainly proving to be a first class **** head.
First of all i said i will believe when the first steel is cut, problem with kids like you is you cant take a difference of opinion, you are so busy in your la la land that if some one gives or even tires to give a reality check, you guys go all ballistic.:disagree:
NO the problem is clearly with your thick head. dont make such idiotic comments and expect viewers to keep quite. so you are only going to believe when the steel is cut? let me teach you something kid. "cutting steel" does not mean a boat sailing but only possible in your thick anger comprehension context. PN can get its first type-214 without even having to cut a single steel! first clarify your posts reread it and edit it from your BS because no one is going to be interested in your 3rd grade pessimistic comments. sort of a loser mentality.
Like i said i am not interested in picking up a fight with you, you dont seem a logic in my post
ya but you are not even a logic to start with.
Also genius it was more of an expression of personal opinion that i will believe the deal is final when the first steel is cut. Heck the contract isnt signed yet and here i dont understand what the **** are you smoking and babbling about.
you **** the whole point of this forum is to discuss! i do not know what kind of 4,000 plus BS you have spammed in this forum...
How about you pass some of that stuff here as well let me see is it the stuff or your level of intellect is so low that you are simply unable to comprehend a expression of opinion.
well you see.. last time i tried to pass around a very easy comprehension context to you, your head kind of exploded so let alone a "high level of intellect context" which i think will give you a one way ticket to the highway of hell.
 
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come on sir je, janab sr Icecold and Sir. growler, what is the point in fighting like this sir!!
let us get ove with it and keep up with the good work. both you guys have been a real asset to this forum and let us not spoil our relations,,
wasa be Ramzan chal raha ha sir je,,
it is a personel request to both of you senior and respected members!!

regards!
 
:rofl:I am crying because Bhansoon Ke Laraghi Me Ghass Pissti haa.:mod:Pls don't fight sir GEEEEEssssss.:cheers:
 
South Korea Orders 6 More U-214 AIP Submarines

The German Type 214 was selected by Korea over the French/Spanish Scorpene Class that has been ordered by Chile, India, and Malaysia. Some would argue that U-214s are the most advanced diesel-electric submarines on the market, with an increased diving depth of over 400 meters, an optimized hull and propeller design, ultra-modern internal systems, and an Air Independent Propulsion (AIP) system that lets the diesel submarine stay submerged for long periods without needing to surface and snorkel air.

South Korea ordered its first 3 KSS-II/ Type 214 boats in 2000, which were assembled by Hyundai Heavy Industries. The Batch 2 order will add 6 more of the 65m, 1,700t boats, effectively doubling the ROKN’s number of modern submarines. The latest development is a large combat system order, whose recipient should not be a surprise…

DAPA has selected Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering to build the first boat from Batch 2, and expects to send out another set of tenders for the 5th U-214 boat in 2009.

The KSS-II Batch 2 submarines will include some improvements. HDW’s existing AIP system uses Siemens PEM fuel cells which produce 120 kW per module, and give the submarine an underwater endurance of 2 weeks. This second batch of the Sohn Won-Yil Class will reportedly improve on that system.

On the other hand, Korean newspapers have been reporting high noise levels in previous ships of class, due to propeller shaft problems. Time will tell if Batch 2 submarines manage to fix that issue.

These U214 submarines will join the 3 existing U-209 Chang Bo-go Class boats from the ROKN’s KSS-I program, which were transferred from the German Navy between 1992-1994. The first 2 KSS-II boats of the 1,980 ton U-214 Sohn Won-Yil Class, SS 072 and SS 073, were delivered to the ROK Navy in December 2007 and 2008.

A 1 trillion won KSS-III program is also planned, wherein South Korea would design and manufacture an indigenous 3,000 ton submarine with an Air Independent Propulsion (AIP) system to supplement its diesels, and Korean submarine combat systems and land attack cruise missiles. The submarines were originally slated for a 2020 introduction, but in May 2009 they were moved back to 2022.


ATLAS ELEKTRONIK has been awarded the largest single order in its company history. Bremen’s specialist for naval electronics will equip six submarines for Korea with combat systems of the type ISUS 90-61.

The corresponding contract was signed with Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft GmbH (HDW), which belongs to ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems AG. HDW will deliver six material packages to Korea for the construction of Class 214 submarines. The six ISUS systems from ATLAS ELEKTRONIK form an important part of this order. In addition, the contract provides for extensive teamwork with the Korean industry.

ATLAS ELEKTRONIK is therefore also represented in the second batch of the Korean submarine programme. The first batch involved three boats and was contracted in 2000. ATLAS ELEKTRONIK is able to look back at decades of fruitful cooperation with the Korean Navy; this new order creates the foundations for continued success in Korea.

The Managing Directors of ATLAS ELEKTRONIK, Dieter Rottsieper and Kai Horten, commented: “This is a major triumph and underlines the position of ATLAS as a global market leader in submarine technology. With this contract, we will be able to expand our technological excellence in this field and, at the same time, secure both jobs and know-how in Germany.”

ASIAN DEFENCE: South Korea Orders 6 More U-214 AIP Submarines
 
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