Pakistanis look to India for solutions

[PlanetWarrior]

With due respect your countrymen are boasting over something which is imaginative




ahhh what a solace for India when you have some pie due to NATO and US otherwise yes i agree with you dont have guts to launch any successful covert operation.

Oh no. Unlike Pakistan we do not concede that we sponsor terrorists with the help of the USA of the Al Qaeda and Taliban sorties. Those rabid dogs usually turn to bite the hand which feeds them as you now are sadly learning

India does not need to destabilise Pakistan. The Pakistani military and the people of Paksitan themselves are doing a great job of destabilising Pakistan.

 

[humblehobbes]

^^^ What u trying to achieve... Lot of people have tried to drive some truth into her head and all failed.. she has a set of arguments and she is always right.
"The rabbit whcih she catches always has 3 legs"

 

[SMC]

Oh no. Unlike Pakistan we do not concede that we sponsor terrorists with the help of the USA of the Al Qaeda and Taliban sorties. Those rabid dogs usually turn to bite the hand which feeds them as you now are sadly learning

What, you do it secretly? Don't worry it won't be secret for too long.

India does not need to destabilise Pakistan. The Pakistani military and the people of Paksitan themselves are doing a great job of destabilising Pakistan.

Who is funding the destabilization? Bigfoot?

 

[Spring Onion]

you forgot untouchability, Dalit, caste, brahmin oppression and India-bully-power!!

you mean this ? yeh i should not forget this

UN says India’s caste system is a human rights abuse
Geneva, Sep.29 (ANI): The United Nations Human Rights Council, meeting in Geneva, is expected to ratify draft principles which will recognize India’s caste system as a human rights abuse.
The UN will condemn the persecution suffered by 65 million ‘untouchables’ or ‘Dalits’ who carry out the most menial and degrading work

The UN draft, which has been opposed by India, pledges to work for the “effective elimination of discrimination based on work and descent”.

The Indian government had lobbied heavily for the Human Rights Council to remove the word ‘caste’ from a draft earlier this year.

India’s opposition was undermined however by Nepal, the former Hindu Kingdom, which has supported the move. Its foreign minister Jeet Bahadur Darjee Gautam said Nepal welcomes UN and international support for its attempts to tackle caste discrimination.

The UN has now called on India to follow Nepal’s example, but New Delhi remains opposed to international interference on the issue.

Navanethem Pillay, the UN’s High Commissioner for Human Rights, who is a South African Tamil, said Nepal’s response marked a “significant step by a country grappling with this problem itself” and urged other states to follow its lead.

The issue is sensitive in India where untouchables and other low-caste groups wield increasing political influence, particularly in Uttar Pradesh.

According to The Telegraph, the caste divisions has become institutionalised by quotas for Dalits in government jobs and university places, which has in turn angered higher caste groups. (ANI)

UN says India’s caste system is a human rights abuse

 

[DaRk WaVe]

Lets get back to the article people or leave this thread...

 

[DaRk WaVe]

is Waziristan...and Baolchistan ...part of some other country......ohhh yes I remember they are fighting for freedome from Pakistan.........
I just gave you one dose of your favourait medicin and you bucked.....

How ill informed u are we are killing terrorists man don't u know that

Boy i dont take any medicine, but i m pretty much sure u do take some crap articles, i can point them out if u want...

talking about Freedom, Look so many of ur districts are hit by insurgency & when we talk about Freedom of Kashmir u people feel pain somewhere unmentionable....

 

[PlanetWarrior]

How ill informed u are we are killing terrorists man don't u know that

Boy i dont take any medicine, but i m pretty much sure u do take some crap articles, i can point them out if u want...

talking about Freedom, Look so many of ur districts are hit by insurgency & when we talk about Freedom of Kashmir u people feel pain somewhere unmentionable....

You ask to stick to the topic but bring in Kashmir ?

Our districts are sometimes hit by crime and we have the police handle those crimes whether by Naxals or whatever. Unlike Baluch etc where the PDF is attacking civilians with mortar and military might. But then again ours is a democracy whilst yours is a theology. Our government needs to account to its people whilst your government needs to account to its military. Again another example of where Pakistan can turn to India to learn

 

[Spring Onion]

is Waziristan...and Baolchistan ...part of some other country......ohhh yes I remember they are fighting for freedome from Pakistan.........
I just gave you one dose of your favourait medicin and you bucked.....

ahh so you are concerned for those terrorists in Waziristan and Balochistan just like you were and are concerned for LTTE terrorists' killing in Sri Lanka.

ahh never mind

I will once again say India was the first country in the world that has bombed its own people in Mezoram so please stop this sympathy phrase of killing our own people.

And if so arent you killing your own people in North east ? and so on.

Didnt you kill your own Indian Sikhs in operation Blue Star?

or may be they were some aliens

 

[Khajur]

Adding the phrase "secular" in constitution is one thing and practicing is another.



ahhh nah nah i dont want to live in a so-called secular country where they have Babri Mosque like incidents, where we see killing and burning of Muslims lives, where we see Gujrat massacar, where we see Sikh mass killing in Golden Temple, where we see ruthless killing of Christians at the hands of Hindu fundamentalists.

It takes great deal of maturity at the societal level ,the culture of tolerance for coexistance of various religion and acceptance for modern liberal democratic ethos ...to even add the word "secular" to the constitution...there are reasons why we see many theocratic countries around us including pakistan who squirm at the thought of secularism.

Now,secularism means ability for followers every religion to be pracitced ,preached and propagated.

And yes,its power of beliefs of majority indian people in securlism that inspite of above few minor set backs, we are smoothly fucntioning as a secular country till today.

 

[DaRk WaVe]

You ask to stick to the topic but bring in Kashmir ?

Our districts are sometimes hit by crime and we have the police handle those crimes whether by Naxals or whatever. Unlike Baluch etc where the PDF is attacking civilians with mortar and military might. But then again ours is a democracy whilst yours is a theology. Our government needs to account to its people whilst your government needs to account to its military. Again another example of where Pakistan can turn to India to learn

we are just Talking about Freedom na, now if ur Hurt then i m sorry

seriously are u sure that ur forces are not killing Civilans eh??
This is not the thread about, if u want to talk about it open a thread
I appreciate ur democracy, did i said that ur not a deomcracy, ur a democracy for urself not for us, so keep ur ideas to ur self kid

 

[Spring Onion]

You persist in proving the title of this thread as being factual. Did Pakistan now turn to the Indian solution against its own people. Mezoram was our one for justifiable reasons. How many bombings against your own did you notch up? Again , we lead and you follow Jana

lolzz how sheepishly you justified Mezoram and your countryman was criticising the same in our case.

we also have our own justifiable reasons and when Indians have their own such incidents they should not come up with accusations that anyone else was bombing its own people.

 

[Spring Onion]

can u elaborate how??

Just dont dismiss things as inaccurate because ur uncomrtable with its truth.

Forget just preaching his own religion...anyone in india can even critise other religions and promote his own religion at the cost of other religions...something that is punishable by death under blasphemy law in pakistan.

And you want me to post how many were killed when they tried to free themselves from clutches of Hinduism based cast system in India ? If at all India was so secular why we see deaths for poor low cast Hindus who resort to converting to Christianity???


your last line about Pakistan doesnt fit here because we are not secular nor we claim whereas in case of India there should not be any such law or incident which denounces secularims

 

[PlanetWarrior]

And you want me to post how many were killed when they tried to free themselves from clutches of Hinduism based cast system in India ? If at all India was so secular why we see deaths for poor low cast Hindus who resort to converting to Christianity???


your last line about Pakistan doesnt fit here because we are not secular nor we claim whereas in case of India there should not be any such law or incident which denounces secularims

Yes indeed you are not secular and the massacre of non muslims or muslims who do not fit the Pakistani model of a muslim is condoned by the Pakistani state and military. In India as in the rest of the world you do get religious intolerance by a minority of the people. Important thing is that neither the State nor most of the people condone it. There again, Pakistan can look to India for solutions

 

[Spring Onion]

Yes indeed you are not secular and the massacre of non muslims or muslims who do not fit the Pakistani model of a muslim is condoned by the Pakistani state and military. In India as in the rest of the world you do get religious intolerance by a minority of the people. Important thing is that neither the State nor most of the people condone it. There again, Pakistan can look to India for solutions

The history says something else about your so-called secularism.
Letting violation of seculrism at the hands of hardline Hindu groups and then criticise it well its not a fair attitude by Indian Govt as well as your majority Indians

 

[PlanetWarrior]

The history says something else about your so-called secularism.
Letting violation of seculrism at the hands of hardline Hindu groups and then criticise it well its not a fair attitude by Indian Govt as well as your majority Indians

Jaan please do not pass insults purely for the sake of passing insults. If you intend making an allegation then please substantiate with factual evidence. Neither India nor its Hindu majority nor its media condones the violation of secularism by hardline Hindu groups. If we did bow to the demands of the hardliner Hindus then most mosques and churches in India would be razed to the ground. With a few rare exceptions which the authorities acted against, how many largescale destruction of non Hindu shrines occured in our secular history? There again and in sticking with the topic, Pakistan can look to India for solutions