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* Washington Post report says Pakistanis angry at Afghans for building fort on ridgeline between two countries

Daily Times Monitor

LAHORE: Senior US and Pakistani officials have recently stepped up efforts to tame the Pakistan-Afghanistan border area. But high-level talks have not led to cooperation on the ground, a Washington Post report claims.

It says US troops are still struggling to overcome decades of enmity between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

When 800 troops moved into the area in February, it marked the first large-scale US presence on the border in Kunar province since 2001.

The Americans had been in place only a few weeks when the local Pakistani commander summoned them and the senior Afghan commander in the area for an emergency meeting to discuss fears that Afghan forces, backed by US air power, were planning to attack Pakistani posts.

Anger: US officials said the Pakistanis were angry that the Afghans were building a fort on the ridgeline between the two countries. The meeting quickly became “very ugly and emotional”, the US officer told the paper.

The Afghan commander said he needed the new fort to hold off Taliban fighters who had fired on his troops from Pakistani positions a few months earlier, killing four Afghan soldiers and wounding a US adviser. To break through suspicion, US troops planned to hold a series of meetings with their Pakistani counterparts. But they quickly realised that frequent visits were impossible.

Arriving in the area, the Americans had assumed that the Pakistani troops were cooperating with the Taliban, their former allies. They learnt, according to the Post, that the Frontier Corps soldiers were virtually prisoners in their posts. At the Karir Pass, the Pakistani troops are flown in by helicopter to their border forts. Their food, too, is airlifted every few weeks.

Every few weeks, a team of US and Afghan soldiers flies up to the border area to blast Taliban rocket-launch sites and safe houses. In April, they destroyed 10 Taliban launch sites in a three-day operation. The salvos slowed, only to pick up again in June.

US commanders say they have been able to slow the flow of Taliban fighters across the border by winning over Afghans in the Kunar River valley. But to stop it entirely, they say, they must have the support of deeply suspicious Pakistani forces.

One idea is to open a border coordination centre on the Afghan side where commanders from all three countries could plan operations.
Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan
 
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Haha, what a bunch of jokers they are!

First these Afghans refuse to build a fence across the border to stop these terrorists, now they want a fort on the border... Ridiculous!

Pakistan needs an aggressive foreign policy that lets these guys know who is in charge!

We all know that the US can't afford a war if we decided to block their supplies... If they don't listen to our demands simply block their supplies until they obey!

The fact is that the Americans need us, not the other way around... We must stop the building of this fort on the border!
 
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We'll blow it up after the Yanks leave, if the Afghans try anything funny.

Its not like they actually have an Army that knows how to fight.

How many Marines and how many ANA in the current Southern Afghanistan offensive? If they can't fight for their own country, what on earth are they going to do against the FATA Tribes and the PA and FC?
 
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We'll blow it up after the Yanks leave, if the Afghans try anything funny.

Its not like they actually have an Army that knows how to fight.

How many Marines and how many ANA in the current Southern Afghanistan offensive? If they can't fight for their own country, what on earth are they going to do against the FATA Tribes and the PA and FC?

Why do we have to answer to the yanks!?

Remember, America needs us, not the other way around... If we block their supplies they have no other choice other than to obey!

Obama is in no position to start a new offensive!
 
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the Americans had assumed that the Pakistani troops were cooperating with the Taliban, their former allies.

**Sick**
Americans "assumed" that Osma bin Laden did 9/11, and destroyed whole Afghanistan, just for 1 guy.

Americans "assumed" that weapon of mass destration exists in iraq, and because of this millions of people lost their life.

& now this.

Enough is enough, if some dignity left in pak government then they should stop supporting these B****ds. We don't need them, they have already done enough damage to this country. & worst nightmare of pakistanis i.e. Zardari was also planed in USA. :-s
 
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Why do we have to answer to the yanks!?

We are been sold by our government to these yankis.

Remember, America needs us, not the other way around... If we block their supplies they have no other choice other than to obey!

Old story, now they have a cheaper passage from russia.

Obama is in no position to start a new offensive!

yes agree, but it doesn't mean that they wont!!
 
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Why do we have to answer to the yanks!?

Remember, America needs us, not the other way around... If we block their supplies they have no other choice other than to obey!

Obama is in no position to start a new offensive!

Valid point - if the post is in violation of the Durand as interpreted, we should blow it up. The Afghans have not been the best of neighbors historically anyway, what with their refusals to accept Pakistan, claim her territory, support separatist movements in her, sponsor terrorism on our land.

Doubt Zardari is interested in picking a fight at this point though, and the military is not interested in acting on its own and bypassing the elected government, thankfully.
 
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i think we should create buffer zone and mine it completely across the border. if the tribes in the area want to pass we can make pathways so that they can reach there brotheron on the other side.
but i am really not that comfortable with the afghans building that fort. we should sent a sortie of F-16's and blow that thing up. this will send a strong signal to the mayor of kabul that we will not accept business as usual as it was before the soviet invasion.
 
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That is nothing to worry about.Afghanis neither have the capability nor balls to fight us.
 
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Old story, now they have a cheaper passage from russia.

Proof?

yes agree, but it doesn't mean that they wont!!

They can't attack Pakistan... Pakistan is simply too strong for them... Not to mention that we have one of the best militaries in the world! I am pretty sure that the Americans are smarter than what you give them credit for. A fight with Pakistan would destroy them...

America has too many things to worry about, like their economy and the fact that they have two wars going on already! They need Pakistan, and want to keep us as an ally!

The only way they can fight us is through proxies like the TTP and BLA! As well as their corrupt media!

The reason why they got rid of Musharraf (although I didn't like him anyways, but hes better than what we have now) in the first place, and established a puppet like Zardari, was to keep this so called friendship going!

They know we have an advantage over them, and they don't want us to use it!
 
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A fort?

They can build whatever they want on their side of the border. Wtf does "on the ridge line" mean?
 
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I dont think Pakistanis should be angry with Afghanis. Most Pakistanis dont care about Afghanis, we dont love them and we dont hate them. Pakistan needs to deport the millions of Afghanis living in Pakistan back to Afghanistan, and build a border like we have in our eastern borders. Afghanis are irrelevant.
 
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I guess you don't watch the news. yesterday i saw on the geo news, will search for the link and post it.

They can't attack Pakistan... Pakistan is simply too strong for them... Not to mention that we have one of the best militaries in the world! I am pretty sure that the Americans are smarter than what you give them credit for. A fight with Pakistan would destroy them...

yes i do agree pakistan is too strong, but you are forgeting, daily americans are attacking in pakistan, through drones, through missile. What Pak army did so far? allowed them to use the base within pakistan to attack in pakistan?

Problem is not who is strong, but problem is the courage. Sorry to say, pakistan is surviving on the aid coming from them, how can we even think about going against them. Just imagine, pakistani official even can't speak in front of the world that who is supporting BLA, and TTP. (Gallini pointed just after joining the cabinet that a report is been submitted to him about involvement of india in baluchistan, but he never said anything on this line afterward, & no media ever said anything on this). who is actually Rehman malik, no pakistani ever given him vote, how come he manage to reach this level? and many more signs clearly showing that the puppet (zardari) is workin for US, and also he is destabilizing pakistanis. Pak government is trying to put too much pressure on pakistanis that they even forget about freedom, rights, jihaad and most import Islam. PRESIDENT of PAKISTAN, continuous touring the world with a bowl and asking for aid, loan..

my point is, US is already attacking in pakistan, other then 14 or 15 attacks, 168 attacks happen on pakistani civilians, where women, children got murdered. And you know everyone is involve in it. Pakistani government, pak army, pak judical system & most important WE (Pakistanis) :(
 
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