masterchief_mirza
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HIV, influenza, ncov etc etc can show zero symptoms. Come on man - are you just trolling me now?
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Bro you are right.Well, science convinces some but not others.
Look dude, honestly speaking, the risk cannot truly be completely negated, no matter what precautions are taken. Pakistan are playing safe - maybe too safe. I feel that on balance, considering the consequences for Pakistan of an outbreak, playing ultra safe is justifiable. Different nations have to make their own calculations.
You may be right - maybe it's overcautiousness for nothing.
I'm just reminding the folks here - both Your good self and those with more malevolent intent - that Pakistan is making decisions on the basis of scientific and rational arguments, which makes a nice change from the usual.
I never claimed this couldn't happen. The rationale is not about whether someone is Chinese or Pakistani or Martian. The rationale is that anyone from outside Wuhan and hubei province is statistically less likely to be infected. That's all.
Well lets see this shall we?Stop spreading garbage. Cases are present all over China but Wuhan and its province are the epicentre.
https://www.who.int/ith/2019-nCoV_advice_for_international_traffic/en/
No need to ban ALL traffic from China as per current WHO guidance.
Meanwhile here is the LATEST guidelines from CDC (USA)No need to ban ALL traffic from China as per current WHO guidance.
Travel warning: CDC recommends that travelers avoid all nonessential travel to the People’s Republic of China (this does not include the Special Administrative Regions of Hong Kong and Macau, or the island of Taiwan).
HIV, influenza, ncov etc etc can show zero symptoms. Come on man - are you just trolling me now?
I shall ask you a simple question. Can a person be an infected carrier of a virus and not show symptoms but transmit the virus to others?Reply to me next time.
They show zero symptons during their incubation periods and their incubation periods are large. All viruses cause symptoms when they become active.
I shall ask you a simple question. Can a person be an infected carrier of a virus and not show symptoms but transmit the virus to others?
Answer is YES. Everyone's immune system and body response is different. You can be a carrier and yet develop no symptom.I shall ask you a simple question. Can a person be an infected carrier of a virus and not show symptoms but transmit the virus to others?
In UK, ALL travel to hubei is discouraged while ALL BUT ESSENTIAL travel to the rest of China is discouraged. Certainly different nations are demonstrating different degrees of precaution. I don't disagree with that.Meanwhile here is the LATEST guidelines from CDC (USA)
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/destinations/traveler/none/china
If Pakistan authorities feels confident in allowing travel from China in general --in face of all of this situation-- then they should also feel confident in handling their OWN citizens and evacuating them from Wuhan where life is getting tougher.
Answer is YES. Everyone's immune system and body response is different. You can be a carrier and yet develop no symptom.
Actually the guidelines you shared from WHO does not talk about banning ANY traffic, only doing screening. With that you should be able to evacuate folks from Wuhan at the earliest.No need to ban ALL traffic from China as per current WHO guidance.
Well to be honest, it is possible for many folks to not develop any symptom. If a person for instance uses beta blockers to manage hypertension or migrane or anxiety / panic attacks, their body temperature may remain perpetually low due to low heart rate caused by beta-blocker. In such situations, it is possible that earliest symptoms of mild fever may be totally missed.We talking about corona virus here.
Actually the guidelines you shared from WHO does not talk about banning ANY traffic, only doing screening. With that you should be able to evacuate folks from Wuhan at the earliest.
Well to be honest, it is possible for many folks to not develop any symptom. If a person for instance uses beta blockers to manage hypertension or migrane or anxiety / panic attacks, their body temperature may remain perpetually low due to low heart rate caused by beta-blocker. In such situations, it is possible that earliest symptoms of mild fever may be totally missed.
This was just one possiblity. In real life scenarios many factors interplay together. The guidelines are usually given for very general cases but many time many medical conditions can mask each other's symptoms.
Leaving all those things apart I disagree with the "small hole for small cat, big hole for big cat" approach to this situation. If it is safe to allow almost unlimited people movement from all over China - Hubei to Pakistan when the infection has spread in whole of eastern China, then refusing evacuation of one's own citizens from Wuhan makes no sense and is down right humiliating to general people to say the least.Ofcourse you can mask. But under a controlled, monitored environment, it won't be possible.
He's trying to ask general questions, keep it specific to Corona virus, he is trying everything to justify something ridiculous when it is justifiable. You will only enter a new cycle of argument unrelated.
Okay,let's assume you're right and corona virus will manifest with symptoms in all infectees within 21 days.I will give you a simple answer.
For a corona virus, for only 21 days maximum.
We talking about corona virus here.