Pakistani leader Imran Khan admitted he refuses to criticize China's treatment of its Uighur minorit

[Lincoln]

Pakistan and India have a decades old agreement.

It gives the right to Pakistan to comment on issues related to Indian Muslims and it gives the right to India to comment on issues related to Pakistani Hindus.

Which agreement is this?

 

[Dalit]

Neither is mainland India, but our Government wants to make a commentary on CAA and Muslims there anyways.

For what? You're only giving more excuses to their far rightists to label Muslims as anti National, and you're making their own Muslims skeptical about it when Pakistan is voicing in their favor, because they hate us.

This government is playing none of its cards right. None.



Well, the answer is very simple. He doesn't want to upset China over Uighur issues due to CPEC and jets, then he should keep his mouth shut on Islamophobia issues and Palestine on the basis of Muslims' persecution, after all, those countries also have contradicting interests.

When you show clear hypocrisy, no one takes your word or takes you seriously.

When did Imran Khan say anything on the Palestinian issue? At most he has cited the discriminatory behavior of the Modi regime in India. That seems very correct to me considering how India comments on every Pakistani issue.

1. The Modi regime doesn't require Imran Khan's criticism to motivate itself to hate Indian Muslims. They are perfectly capable of hating Indian Muslims without anyone's encouragement. RSS motto is to hate Muslims. This is general knowledge.

2. Indian Muslims have only themselves to blame. Many that stayed in India during partition chose India over Pakistan. They were promised a safe and secular India. Today the Indian Muslims are finding out the truth. Indian Muslim hatred towards Pakistan is nothing new. Neither will it disappear overnight. The envy is here to remain.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Which agreement is this?

Agreement between India and Pakistan regarding security and rights of minorities(Nehru-Liaquat Agreement)

Signed: 8 April 1950

Agreement number 43 listed here.
https://www.india.org.pk/pages.php?id=17

 

[Lincoln]

Agreement between India and Pakistan regarding security and rights of minorities(Nehru-Liaquat Agreement)

Signed: 8 April 1950

Agreement number 43 listed here.
https://www.india.org.pk/pages.php?id=17

Holy shit, unreal stuff and such an awful clause in the agreement.

When did Imran Khan say anything on the Palestinian issue? At most he has cited the discriminatory behavior of the Modi regime in India. That seems very correct to me considering how India comments on every Pakistani issue.

1. The Modi regime doesn't require Imran Khan's criticism to motivate itself to hate Indian Muslims. They are perfectly capable of hating Indian Muslims without anyone's encouragement. RSS motto is to hate Muslims. This is general knowledge.

2. Indian Muslims have only themselves to blame. Many that stayed in India during partition chose India over Pakistan. They were promised a safe and secular India. Today the Indian Muslims are finding out the truth. Indian Muslim hatred towards Pakistan is nothing new. Neither will it disappear overnight. The envy is here to remain.

I don't care about both the points. You missed what I am trying to say.

Imran Khan talks about persecution of muslims in land A, and says that the world isn't doing enough.

Imran Khan refuses to talk about persecution of muslims in land B, says it's not in national interests.

That's hypocrisy. And others will give less weight to what he has to say because of it.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

That is china's internal matter. None of our business!

 

[Dil_Pakistan]

@Dalit thanks for putting some of the record straight in the ongoing discussion..
I think the point that is being missed by criticizing Khan, Govt., Pak state on talking about the ongoing NRC/CAA, Muslim issues in India is that it is part of the narrative building doing by Pakistan with respect to the current Indian regime.
What Pakistan is telling and saying to the world is that this is not just decades old territorial issue, what you have in India currently is a Nazi like regime, whose action endanger whole region and world likewise. By doing to, one magnifies the issue as well its intensity.
Also as much as i have listened to IK, he always links it back to Kashmir. Even today he was saying that the Kashmiris are having it worst than even those Muslims in India. So i see no issue.
Also i think we should do what we feel is right & be less concerned of what we feel world thinks. I think world itself, all the countries themselves are hypocritical in one way or another. Everyone does pursues their own interest. So Pakistan doing so doesn't hurts. Obviously if the other countries or world doesn't wants to do anything, then they can make any excuse. We can't do much in any case..

 

[Rusty]

I see patwaris are getting really excited, look like the monkey pen needs a cold hosing.

Remember when Ganja was buddy buddy with the butcher of Gujarat to Pakistan?
Or that time Ganja allowed an Indian into Pakistan without a visa so he could get some personal business out of it?

Before you patwari monkeys jump too high, just remember how bad your ganja was.


As for IK
I will agree, I didn't like how he handled it initially.
But his new line of "we are privately talking to them about it" is perfect.
We can't afford to pick a fight with everyone... due to 10 years of looting and destruction by previous governments.

For the time being, we need to play smart and once we are on our feet, we can start swinging the bala at anyone and everyone.

 

[airmarshal]

That will not serve his masters so skip that part.

Exactly! The people who shed crocodile tears for Chinese Muslims dont utter a word for Yemeni, Irani, Syrian and Iraqi Muslims who have been killed or under punitive sanctions by their master the USA.

What a complete hypocrisy this concern for Chinese Muslims is.

 

[Dalit]

Holy shit, unreal stuff and such an awful clause in the agreement.



I don't care about both the points. You missed what I am trying to say.

Imran Khan talks about persecution of muslims in land A, and says that the world isn't doing enough.

Imran Khan refuses to talk about persecution of muslims in land B, says it's not in national interests.

That's hypocrisy. And others will give less weight to what he has to say because of it.

There is stark difference between what you claim and what the reality is.

1. The Uyghur issue is not comparable to other conflicts in the Muslim world. There is no persecution.

2. The Western world stands largely isolated in their accusations against China. Most Islamic nations apart from Turkey have not sided with Western accusations. Many Islamic nations have sided with China thus far. Pakistan is not an exception.

3. Imran Khan has still tactfully made his case to Western media. Pakistan approaches China privately to convey its message. This is a strong answer to all the criticism.

Whether the Western world is willing to accept this message is upto them. Pakistan doesn't have the obligation of convincing any side.

Kashmir conflict and Uyghur issue are not comparable. One is an armed conflict. The other is an internal issue of China.

 

[Dil_Pakistan]

Also, i am trying to find the clip where, PM IK talked on this Uighur question. I remember listening to it & i thought he did it pretty tactfully. I don't think this article sort of does justice to that or maybe this is some separate instance but from what i had heard, he had quiet brilliantly threaded a needle and gave reply that basically didn't went against anybody, didn't accepted anything (whether or not there is this problem ongoing) but also answered the question lol..

 

[fisher1]

That will not serve his masters so skip that part.

I actually skipped a lot of article. I linked to it so people can read it. Why?

Because Donald Trump paid me a billion USD? No, i am typing this on mobile and it's a pain to copy paste so i only pasted the relevant points to my point.

 

[PakFactor]

Agreement between India and Pakistan regarding security and rights of minorities(Nehru-Liaquat Agreement)

Signed: 8 April 1950

Agreement number 43 listed here.
https://www.india.org.pk/pages.php?id=17

What duffar's come up with these stupid agreements.

 

[fisher1]

Begging your pardon, but you don't cut the hand that feeds you - or atleast shelters you from the hard times you are most certain to face.

Where is your bleeding heart for the Palestinians who have been suffering for decades?

Where are your views for other Muslim Nations that have lost Thousands due to War in their region?

Yeah, the situation for the Uighurs is tragic, but are you gonna put off the one Nation that has always stood by you during thick & thin?

Take a look at our Geography. People say Pakistan is blessed with all types of Climates, Minerals and lord knows what. At times, I feel we're cursed because our Geography has us in the Center of sh!t all around. On one side you have Iran. On the other side, you've got Afghanistan. And if that isn't enough, you've got to deal with India as well.

Finally, you have a small passage to China. Do you want piss them off after they've been bank rolling your entire CPEC Project? The one country that can still provide you with Military Assistance when needed... The one friend that always Veto's in your favor in FATF, UN etc.

We're already mediating between the GCC & Iran. We're mediating between Iran & the US. We're mediating between the US & Afghanistan. Why do we need to do what its supposed to be the UN's job.

The day you go against China, you better say goodbye to whatever the word 'freedom' means to you because all those blocks will converge on you - and no matter how mighty your Military is, it can't fight on all ends at the same time.

Ever wonder why the US hasn't walked all over us by now? Let me give you a hint, it has nothing to do with the number of nukes you have. They don't because they...and everyone else knows that China has our back.

India speaks of Kashmir as an internal matter, when its not. But the Uighurs is an internal matter for China, and we best stay clear.

It is because we've been a good puppet to US. Something you will know if you actually lived and suffered US policies like us Pakistanis do daily. We are a strategic partner of America.

And China is a great friend. Yet, i see IMF bailing us out and not China. Yet, i saw American F16s helping us not Chinese Iron Brothers.

Look at the hypocrisy in your post by the way.

China is our friend but we can't so much as criticise it over a holocaust they're re-enacting on our Muslim brethren.

What a brother.

 

[Dalit]

@Dalit thanks for putting some of the record straight in the ongoing discussion..
I think the point that is being missed by criticizing Khan, Govt., Pak state on talking about the ongoing NRC/CAA, Muslim issues in India is that it is part of the narrative building doing by Pakistan with respect to the current Indian regime.
What Pakistan is telling and saying to the world is that this is not just decades old territorial issue, what you have in India currently is a Nazi like regime, whose action endanger whole region and world likewise. By doing to, one magnifies the issue as well its intensity.
Also as much as i have listened to IK, he always links it back to Kashmir. Even today he was saying that the Kashmiris are having it worst than even those Muslims in India. So i see no issue.
Also i think we should do what we feel is right & be less concerned of what we feel world thinks. I think world itself, all the countries themselves are hypocritical in one way or another. Everyone does pursues their own interest. So Pakistan doing so doesn't hurts. Obviously if the other countries or world doesn't wants to do anything, then they can make any excuse. We can't do much in any case..

That is exactly right. At the end of the day Pakistan stands alone whichever way we look at the problem. Recently we witnessed how the world remained mum when Pakistan and India were enganged in skirmishes. The same can be said for Indian attempt to annex occupied Kashmir. The world doesn't care and only sides where their interests lie.

The reason why the Western media continues to demand an answer related to Uyghur conflict is quite simple. The aim is to tarnish Chinese image and harm the CPEC project.

 

[fisher1]

After China there is only one option left for Pakistan which is to be subservient to the US.

Huh? What world do you live i