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Pakistani kingdoms in mythical Mahabharat epic

Daradas seem to be the "Dards" or "dardic" peoples of northern Pakistan, like Shinas, Kohistanis, Kalaash etc. Also I wonder what the borders of Gandhara were.



You're right. There was no Pakistan 67 years ago. Before that we were Punjab, Sindh(called Hind by the Arabs), Pakhtunkhwa, Balochistan, Gandhara, Gilgit-Baltistan, Kashmir etc, which together form the "Indus states". Pakistan is an amalgamation of all the trans-Indus states. And no offense, but the peoples of Pakistan are ethnically, linguistically and even racially for the most part are different from majority of Indians.

And lol at the Arab, Afghan, Turk comment. Name one leader of Pakistan who claimed an Arab, Afghan or Turkish descent.

And btw, the ethnic Punjabis were called "bahlikas" in Indian sources. They were said to have abandoned "dharam" and, according to some, the rigidity of caste system.



Yes we are Arabs and you guys are Scythians, white huns, Kushans etc. I once read an Indian author linking south Indian Bunts with ancient Spartans. :rofl:
My Tahir "the Plumber" friend ,I a am Jamwal from Himachal and since when Himachal and Uttarakhand was colonized by scythians.

You should stick with your sindbad Jahaji,Ali baba and Marjina and don't bother about Arjun and Bhishma.
 
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My Tahir "the Plumber" friend ,I a am Jamwal from Himachal and since when Himachal and Uttarakhand was colonized by scythians.

You should stick with your sindbad Jahaji,Ali baba and Marjina and don't bother about Arjun and Bhishma.

I didn't know there were Jamwals in Himachal. One of the biggest rajput clans in my homeland, Potohar, is the Minhas clan, which claims descent from the Jamwals of Jammu. The first muslim general of British Indian army and the first victoria cross were both Minhas Rajputs from the Chakwal district of Potohar.

Khudadad Khan, first victoria cross from South Asia:
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General Iftikhar Khan, the first general in British Indian army:
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Raja Pervaiz Ashraf, the ex-PM of Pakistan, also belongs to the Minhaas clan from Gujjar Khan:
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PS: Somehow I doubt you're a Dogra. I bet you're some south Indian or something pretending to be a Dogra.

PS PS: And Scythians only colonized Punjab region around Sialkot(Sakala) lol. They didn't go to Uttarkhand or something. Now I'm convinced you're from Uttarkhand claiming to be a Dogra. Dogras are not related to the Uttarkhand people, who are genetically just chamars mixed with east Asians.

And if you were a Jamwal, then you'd know that among rajputs, only the agnikula sept is thought to have sprung from Scythians etc. Jamwals are not agnikula. A failed lying troll is a fail lying troll.
 
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I didn't know there were Jamwals in Himachal. One of the biggest rajput clans in my homeland, Potohar, is the Minhas clan, which claims descent from the Jamwals of Jammu. The first muslim general of British Indian army and the first victoria cross were both Minhas Rajputs from the Chakwal district of Potohar.

Khudadad Khan, first victoria cross from South Asia:
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General Iftikhar Khan, the first general in British Indian army:
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Raja Pervaiz Ashraf, the ex-PM of Pakistan, also belongs to the Minhaas clan from Gujjar Khan:
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PS: Somehow I doubt you're a Dogra. I bet you're some south Indian or something pretending to be a Dogra.

PS PS: And Scythians only colonized Punjab region around Sialkot(Sakala) lol. They didn't go to Uttarkhand or something. Now I'm convinced you're from Uttarkhand claiming to be a Dogra. Dogras are not related to the Uttarkhand people, who are genetically just chamars mixed with east Asians.

And if you were a Jamwal, then you'd know that among rajputs, only the agnikula sept is thought to have sprung from Scythians etc. Jamwals are not agnikula. A failed lying troll is a fail lying troll.
Man I see you always present on PDF..if you don't mind ,can you tell me if you go to college or office?
I admire your knowledge of history.
 
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My Tahir "the Plumber" friend ,I a am Jamwal from Himachal and since when Himachal and Uttarakhand was colonized by scythians.

You should stick with your sindbad Jahaji,Ali baba and Marjina and don't bother about Arjun and Bhishma.

I have another friend who is a Jamwal from Himachal.

Seems some Pakistanis while having a lot of interest in the topic of ethnicity, have very less real knowledge of the same, especially for Indian population.
 
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I didn't know there were Jamwals in Himachal. One of the biggest rajput clans in my homeland, Potohar, is the Minhas clan, which claims descent from the Jamwals of Jammu. The first muslim general of British Indian army and the first victoria cross were both Minhas Rajputs from the Chakwal district of Potohar.

Khudadad Khan, first victoria cross from South Asia:
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General Iftikhar Khan, the first general in British Indian army:
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Raja Pervaiz Ashraf, the ex-PM of Pakistan, also belongs to the Minhaas clan from Gujjar Khan:
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PS: Somehow I doubt you're a Dogra. I bet you're some south Indian or something pretending to be a Dogra.

PS PS: And Scythians only colonized Punjab region around Sialkot(Sakala) lol. They didn't go to Uttarkhand or something. Now I'm convinced you're from Uttarkhand claiming to be a Dogra. Dogras are not related to the Uttarkhand people, who are genetically just chamars mixed with east Asians.

And if you were a Jamwal, then you'd know that among rajputs, only the agnikula sept is thought to have sprung from Scythians etc. Jamwals are not agnikula. A failed lying troll is a fail lying troll.
Potohar my Arse,You are Shudra Mallacha we don't consider you Muslims as Rajputs and why are you showing me the pics of converts of unknown origin,I can give you so many example of shudras who were given KHAN title even during the time of Sultanate.

My ancestors were allotted the land in Himachal even before 1947 as they were in the service of Dogra and Katoch rulers.

And compare the list of Number of Victoria cross won by Hindus and Muslims including the second VC was Negi Rajput you should know them as they refused to fire on Muslims in Peshawar.

These are jamwals
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P.S: why don't you share your personal pic with me then we decide the difference with Mix Race potohari and a Jamwal.

I have another friend who is a Jamwal from Himachal.

Seems some Pakistanis while having a lot of interest in the topic of ethnicity, have very less real knowledge of the same, especially for Indian population.
Which place in Himachal there are many jamwals in kangra and chamba district.
 
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Who are the dusky brood who were driven away by Aryans?weren't they the natives of present day Pakistan and people of Sindhi saraswati civilisation?If what you say is true (Pakistanis are for complexioned Aryans and indians are dark skinned dravidians)you people will not have even an iota of right over SSC..it entirely belongs to Indians who were driven to east.

You are not getting it do yo mallu? Aryans were nomadic while ancient Pakistanis used to live in cities of IVC. Kalash people were aryans, after imposing their religion on Indians in Gangustan, they left and started to live in hindu kush. Till this day they have maintained their aryan life style and religion.

Pakistanis are not aryans, we are indigenous people of Mehrgarh.

Yes we are Arabs and you guys are Scythians, white huns, Kushans etc. I once read an Indian author linking south Indian Bunts with ancient Spartans. :rofl:

In every forum these Indians claim to be white huns, kushans, scytians, aryans :astagh: And then come here and are shocked that no one among us is claiming to be arab or persian as they wished. :omghaha:

Potohar my Arse,You are Shudra Mallacha we don't consider you Muslims as Rajputs and why are you showing me the pics of converts of unknown origin,I can give you so many example of shudras who were given KHAN title even during the time of Sultanate.

My ancestors were allotted the land in Himachal even before 1947 as they were in the service of Dogra and Katoch rulers.

And compare the list of Number of Victoria cross won by Hindus and Muslims including the second VC was Negi Rajput you should know them as they refused to fire on Muslims in Peshawar.

These are jamwals
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P.S: why don't you share your personal pic with me then we decide the difference with Mix Race potohari and a Jamwal.


Which place in Himachal there are many jamwals in kangra and chamba district.

Its getting boring watching all these pictures again and again. You are son of mongols/indians, end result nepali looks, height barely over 5'0, very temid look. Look at pictures you posted.

Dogra regiment

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Pak army

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No comparison what so ever between you and sons from mehrgarh. They will eat dogra regiment alive.
 
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Its getting boring watching all these pictures again and again. You are son of mongols/indians, end result nepali looks, height barely over 5'0, very temid look. Look at pictures you posted.

Dogra regiment

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Pak army

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No comparison what so ever between you and sons from mehrgarh. They will eat dogra regiment alive.


Yet this is what happened the last time. They didn't even fight when the opponents were not unarmed civilians and women.

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Kurukshetra: (Ambala, Punjab, now Haryana)
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Famous as the battlefield of the war of Mahabharata, Kurukshetra is situated forty kilometers to the East of Ambala city. In ancient times, Brahmaji had organized a yagya here. That time this was an extensive land area. In those days it was known as the altar for sacrifice of Lord Brahma. Lord Krishna had revealed the sermon of Gita before the war of Mahabharata at this place. Today a lake named Brahma Sarovar here is very famous for its glory. At the time of a Solar eclipse pilgrims from distant places come here to take a dip in this lake. According to the Bhagwat, before the war of Mahabharata, Lord Krishna along with other members of Yaduvansh had come here for a dip in the Brahmakund.
Hastinapur: (near Meerut, Uttar Pradesh)
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Hastinapur, located near Meerut in Uttar Pradesh was the grand city of Mahabharata time. This was the capital of the Kauravas and the Pandavas. Hastinapur has witnessed many famous incidences described in Mahabharata. Here, Yudhishthir lost his brothers and Draupadi along with his wealth in the game of gamble. Krishna had visited the court of Dhritrashtra being a peace messenger of the Pandavas. Before the birth of the Pandavas and Kauravas, Bhisma had taken an oath here to not to marry in life and let go of his right to the throne as his father Shantanu wanted to marry a boatman’s daughter Satyavati. After winning the war of Mahabharata, Pandavas made Hastinapur as their capital.
Varnavat: (Near Meerut, Uttarpradesh)
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It is a city located near Meerut in Uttarpradesh as described in Mahabharata. It was here that Duryodhan had built a Lakshgriha (wax house) to kill the Pandavas. This city is situated on the banks of River Ganga. To avoid the war of Mahabharata, Pandavas had asked for five villages from the Kauravas, Varnavat was one of these five cities. Even today there is a small village here named Barnava which reminds one of the Mahabharata periods.
Panchal Pradesh: (near Himalayas, Uttar Pradesh)
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As mentioned in Mahabharata, Panchal Pradesh was located between the Himalayas and the River Chamba on both sides of the River Ganga. Once when the King of Panchal got the news of an attack from the King of Ayodhya, he said that his five (panch) sons only were enough to fight the war. Since then it was called “Panchal”. During the time of Mahabharata half of Panchal was owned by King Drupad and the other half was owned by Dronacharya. Draupadi was daughter of the King Drupad and married to Arjun after he won over her in the Swayamvar. Draupadi was named “Panchali” as she was the princess of Panchal.
Indraprastha: (South of present day New Delhi):
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Indraprastha was a grand city situated on the South of present day New Delhi. The Pandavas had established this city after destroying Khandav Van (forest). Vishwakarma, the architect of the devtas (deities) had designed this city. This city was the capital of the Pandavas. Even today, there is a small town named Indraprastha which reminds of the ancient town Indraprastha.
Vrindavan: (Mathura, Uttarpradesh)
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Vrindavan is situated ten kilometers away from Mathura in Uttarpradesh. Vrinda had observed penance here to attain Krishna, since then this place is known as Vrindavan. Vrindavan is the place of Lord Krishna’s Bal- leelayen (playful acts done in childhood). Lord Krishna had played Rasleela with the gopis in Vrindavan. Even today Rasleela is the main attraction of this place. There are many famous temples here, of which the temple of Bankebihari and Radhavallabh is very famous. The only events held here are the Shringar (ornamenting) on Sharad Purnima (full moon day of Ashvin- October or November) and Aarti (praying God with a lighted lamp) on Krishna Janmashtami.
Gokul: (Uttar Pradesh)
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Gokul is situated on the banks of River Yamuna, eight kilometers away from Mathura. To protect Krishna from Kans, Vasudev had left Krishna at his friend Nandrai’s house in Gokul. Krishna and his elder brother Balram were brought up in Gokul. Shri Krishna revealed the sermon of Gita to Arjun before the war of Mahabharata and became Arjun’s charioteer during the war. Balram taught the art of mace fight to Bhima and Duryodhan.
Barsana: (Uttar Pradesh)
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Barsana, 21 km from Govardhan Mountain, has four hilltops that represent the four faces of Brahma the Creator. Each hilltop is associated with some incident from Krishna's life. On Mor Kutir top, he danced guised as a peacock to win the love of Radha. Radha’s parents lived in Barsana. The house of Radha's father is atop the Brahma Hill in Barsana. On this site is the Larily Lal (an endearing name for Radha) temple.

Good, informative posts !! Although we know these details, placing the locations in map, gives added insight. Have to thank @save_ghenda for starting this topic.
 
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Ancient Pakistani Gandhara kingdom which extended from Islamabad/Taxila to Jalalabad.

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Ancient Pakistani kingdom Madra

Madra Culture
In the epic, the Madra culture is described to be different from the Vedic culture, prevailed in kingdoms of the Gangetic plain like the Kurus and Panchalas. Brahmins had less influence there. Women enjoyed more freedom. They ate cakes of barley mixed with meat, including beef, which was taboo in Kuru and Panchala. Vedic religious rites were less practiced, and castism based on the four castes (Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaisya and Shudra) was less rigid. Hence the Kuru, Panchalas considered them to be degraded Kshatriyas.[citation needed]


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Some delusions some of the Pakistanis live with, it is so pitiful to have an identity crisis. damn!! Get well soon guys.

Yes, it is pitiful.

So you see the plethora of "history" threads here and elsewhere.

Inhone history ko mashq kiya hai, history inhe mashq kar rahi hai.

By the way, one (probably unintended) side effect of the identity crisis and the funny history taught to them is the hilarious gems that you see from many of them.

Like on this thread. ;)
 
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Ancient Pakistani Kekeya kingdom

Kekeya (also known as Kekaya, Kaikaya, Kaikeya etc.) is a kingdom grouped among the western kingdoms in the epic Mahabharata. The location of the ancient kingdom is approximately near Toba Tek Singh in modern Pakistan. The epic Ramayana also mentions Kekeya as a western kingdom. One of the wives of Dasaratha, the king of Kosala and father of Raghava Rama, was from Kekeya kingdom and was known as Kaikeyi. Her son Bharata conquered the neighbouring kingdom of Gandhara and built the city of Takshasila. Later the sons and descendants of Bharata ruled this region from Takshasila.

In Mahabharata, five Kekaya princes were mentioned, who joined the Pandavas in Kurukshetra War. The eldest of them was described as a king and was known as Vrihatkshatra. These Kekaya brothers were also banished from their kingdom by their own kinsmen, like the Pandavas who were bansished from their Kuru Kingdom, by their cousin brothers viz the Kauravas headed by Duryodhana. Thus these Kekaya brothers were circumstantially inclined to ally with the Pandavas. Besides this, the Kekaya brothers were sons of the sister of Kunti, the mother of Pandavas, making them cousins. In Kurukshetra War, the Kekaya brothers fought against their own kinsmen, viz the other Kekaya brothers who sided with Duryodhana.

This is the map I found of Kekeya

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No one is bringing religion into it. Mahabharata is not a religious book, its an accumulation of stories and myths, this is why its called an 'epic' to begin with.

Its not for the converts and apostates to decide what is our religious book.

As I said, you may continue believing that angels curse a woman all night if she doesn't satisfy the husband at night. Or the horse flew that night.

That is your faith.

Leave ours to us.
 
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