Pakistani Journalist Hamid Mir's Unhinged Response to Attack on Asad Toor

[Blacklight]

It happened once before as well, around 2007 actually....

2021 might be the next one

 

[VCheng]

It happened once before as well, around 2007 actually....

A rose by any other name ... ...

 

[newb3e]

dont show your originality o butthurt pakistani .

okay delusional bharti!

 

[colonel rajesh]

Geo/Jang Group issues statement after taking Hamid Mir off air
Dawn.comPublished June 1, 2021 - Updated about 8 hours ago
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This file photo shows veteran journalist Hamid Mir. — AFP

The Geo/Jang Group has issued a statement after journalists and rights bodies condemned the move to take veteran TV show host Hamid Mir off air.

A day earlier, Mir told BBC Urdu he had been informed by the Geo News management that he would "not go on air on Monday" to host his five-days-a-week show 'Capital Talk'.

In a statement, the Geo/Jang Group said that the veteran journalist had made a speech "that has resulted in backlash from different segments of society".

"The editorial committee and lawyers will check for violation of policy and law. Meanwhile, ‘Capital Talk’ will be hosted by a temporary host," it said.

"We would like to remind our viewers and readers that Geo and Jang Group were shut down, our journalists were beaten up as they faced hundreds of fake allegations of corruption, blasphemy and traitorhood, shot at, financially strangulated more than any other media organisation in the country. The organisation has lost more than Rs10 billion to keep viewers and readers informed.

"However, it becomes difficult for the group and its editors to take ownership of the content that is delivered outside the purview, input and guidance of its editors, and which are not fact-checked and approved by the editorial teams," the statement said.

It added that the disappointment and frustration being felt by Mir and other journalists was a "shared and grave concern but better ways exist on how to channel that energy for productive gains for the safety of journalism and journalists".

"Too many journalists lose their lives and their liberty in Pakistan while their fight for the right of the public to know continues," the statement said, adding that many human and media rights organisations have advocated that the government must protect journalists. "No respite has been given till now."

Mir had just days earlier delivered a fiery speech in Islamabad calling for accountability for repeated assaults on journalists in the country. He was speaking at a protest against the recent attack on journalist and YouTuber Asad Ali Toor.

"The management asked me to either explain or refute the speech outside the [National] Press Club," Mir told BBC Urdu, adding that he asked in return: "Who is asking you for this?"

"I told them if they arrest the persons who attacked Asad Toor then I am ready to apologise, let alone issue an explanation," the journalist said.

Federal Minister for Information and Broadcasting Fawad Chaudhry, meanwhile, without addressing Mir or Geo, tweeted in the evening that the government had nothing to do with the internal decisions of broadcasting organizations.

"Broadcasters themselves decide which programme they have to broadcast and what its team will be," said Chaudhry, adding that all media institutions were responsible for devising their policies under Article 19 of the Constitution.

journalists are facing same problem right from 1947, they saw it in all dictatorships , conditions in preesent pakistan is not different.

 

[colonel rajesh]

Commission Must Investigate Hamid Mir's Ties to Spies & Militants

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Attempt on Hamid Mir's life has rightly drawn widespread outrage in Pakistan and around the world. It has to be condemned without reservations. Hamid Mir is reported have suspected that he was on Pakistani intelligence agency ISI's "hit list".

Pakistani Journalist Hamid Mir

In addition to raising serious questions about the role of the media and the ISI, the assassination attempt has also refreshed memories of journalist Saleem Shahzad's murder in 2011 for which ISI was blamed. Here are some of the questions that I would like to explore:

Questions:

1. What is the relationship between Pakistani journalists and the various spy agencies, including the ISI, operating in Pakistan?

2. How do Pakistani journalists work with militants to cover multiple ongoing insurgencies in Pakistan?

3. Has Pakistani media played a responsible journalistic role in covering national security issues?

Saleem Shahzad's Murder:

To answer the above questions, let us look at the media coverage of Saleem Shahzad's murder in 2011.

World media widely reported the allegations made against the ISI by former US Chairman of Joint Chiefs Admiral Mike Mullen in a Senate committee hearing in Washington. Adm Mullen alleged that Pakistani government "sanctioned" Shahzad's murder.

What the media left out of their coverage of Shahzad's murder were internal emails of Stratfor analysts leaked by Wikileaks. Stratfor bills itself as a "global intelligence" company. It is widely believed to be a leading intelligence contractor for US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).

The leaked emails talked about the "Fine line between an investigative journalist and spy" and added that "The poor bastard went down the rabbit hole and was neutralized".

In another secret email, Stratfor Vice President Fred Burton wrote as follows:

"I'm sure the ISI extracted a confession of his CIA work before he died. There will be a leaked story about his double agent work and the Pakis rub the CIA's nose in it. Its what intel agencies do. Tit for tat. The world will soon forget him. Price one pays for playing the game."

Hamid Mir with TTP terrorist Ilyas Kashmiri. Mir said he also met TTP leaders Hakimullah Mehsud and Mullah Fazlullah.

Attempt on Hamid Mir:

Hamid Mir has built a successful career in journalism on close contacts with Al Qaeda and the Taliban. He is known to have had unusual access to Al Qaeda, Taliban and Baloch militants not granted to others. Mir is the only journalist with the distinction to have interviewed Osama Bin Laden three times, including the last interview that took place after Sept 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in the United States. It has raised questions about his interlocutors, including the ISI and the Taliban.

A 13 minute taped audio conversation between Hamid Mir and a TTP militant (believed to be Usman Punjabi alias Mohammad Omar) was released in 2010 just after the double murder of former ISI agents Colonel Imam and Squadron Leader Khawaja Khalid by the Taliban.

Here are a few excerpts of Hamid Mir's alleged statements from the audio tape:

"... he (Khalid Khwaja) had done all this. After that Maulana Abdul Aziz was arrested and Mr Abdul Rashid Ghazi telephoned me and said, “Now, I don’t have any option. Now, my family and ulema have been defamed as my brother was arrested in a burqa and presented on Pakistan Television. This is a large stain which can only be removed with my blood.” So, he lived up to his words and sacrificed. So, Khalid Khawaja and his wife, anyone may know or not, they will have to answer before Allah Almighty."

"He (Khawaja) himself has confessed in front me that he had links with William Casey. Ok! Leave William, ask him about the Qadiyanis, because I personally believe that Qadiyanis are worse than infidels, what kind of links does he have with Qadiyanis? What relationship does he have with Mansoor Ijaz? Why does he use his money? Why does he go everywhere with him when he comes to Pakistan? Why does he bring him to the mujahideen?"

"He (Canady) was martyred in North Waziristan. He (Khawaja) came to me with Canady’s wife and a daughter, saying Canady’s son, Karim, is at Rawalpindi’s CMH and is injured and the army had arrested him. He asked me to arrange a meeting between the injured and his mother. I said this is very difficult for me and I can’t do this because already they are all against me. But, he said all that you need to do is to arrange a meeting between a mother and her son. So, I arranged it with a lot of difficulties and sent the woman to Rawalpindi CMH, but when she reached there she took a camera out of her burqa and asked her son to record a message that he is innocent, has no links with anyone and has been kept here illegally. She was arrested there because a nurse saw her and seized the camera from her. But I was held responsible for all of it as they told me that I had sent this woman. It was revealed after her arrest that the woman had a Canadian passport and had visited Canada two months ago. After that I faced a lot of difficulties. The Canadian government released the woman and her daughter and then she went back to Canada. In Toronto, she held a press conference and admitted that she worked for the CIA. Now Khalid Khawaja has a long beard and his wife wears a full veil so people like us, who are involved in worldly affairs and have committed sins, believe that if we will help them, we might be forgotten for our sins. When these kinds of people betray us, we lose confidence on the religion itself."

The Daily Times newspaper, which first reported on the tape, said at the time that the information passed on by Mir to the Taliban "could have led to the execution" of former ISI official Khalid Khwaja. Mir denied it was his voice but others authenticated it. Jang Group said it would investigate but nothing came out of it.

Summary:

It appears from the above mixture of allegations and facts that Hamid Mir is not just a journalist but a player in the ongoing militancy in Pakistan. He seems to have worked closely with both the spies and the militants in the past. It also appears that he has managed to alienate both over time and made himself their target. Any serious judicial commission investigation of what happened to Hamid Mir last week must take into account his dealings with the intelligence agencies and the militant outfits to reach any credible conclusion. It is necessary to protect journalists and restore Pakistanis' faith in the media.
Here's a video discussion on the subject:


GeoTV's Hamid Mir Survives Murder Attempt, Blames ISI & Triggers Media Wars from WBT TV on Vimeo.

Here are the tapes of Hamid Mir's alleged conversation with Usman Punjabi:

Hamid Mir Geo. TV (Exposed Call with Asian Tigers) by xeest-us



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Commission Must Investigate Hamid Mir's Ties to Spies & Militants

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geo tv can't face deep state in pakistan.

 

[Adecypher]

geo tv can't face deep state in pakistan.

The unabated obsession with Pakistan continues ...

 

[Asian.Century]

 

[Syed1.]

Beta yeh manjan kahin aur baycho no give gives a shit about this snake.

 

[colonel rajesh]

great fighter . pakistanis should save freedom of speech , democracy and independence by supporting Hamid mir .

 

[PakFactor]

Beta yeh manjan kahin aur baycho no give gives a shit about this snake.

This snake should’ve been culled long time back. Him walking about is sending the wrong message to other traitors within the nation.

 

[SQ8]

Let me synthesize:
You are proposing a SIMPLE & QUICK solution i.e. somehow suddenly a GINI will appear and with one swipe of his magic wound everyone will disappear leaving ONLY the millennials to run the Country...and then even that has less than 1 % chance of success ... am I right?



What that cataclysmic event would be? similar to a meteor strike which wiped out Dinosaurs (we have our fair share of them)? Please do not take this as an insult, it is my inner curiosity for knowing what KIND of cataclysmic event or chamatkaar we should be expecting...?

I honestly don't care about what religion you follow but I would refrain from belittling a religion which approximately 1.8 billion follows as a nonsense...if you see religion plays no significance then it was just better for you to keep it out from the conversation...



I am sorry but your thought process does NOT have any space for HOPE...you lost ALL your HOPE already even before reaching to the Hospital...you are ONLY waiting for the inevitable...



Again, you have already lost ALL hope so it does NOT matter if Hamid Mir or Mir Jafar come back from his grave in that room ... BTW even Mir Jafar will be shocked to see the hopelessness by the patient's ONLY loved one present there...

My 2 Cents:
I do not know if you have read Allama M. Iqbal (RA) but pretty much to an extent our society is manifesting the same ills as conveyed through Jawab e Shikwa and solution for those issues were also presented in it but I guess it is related to following Islamic principles so it will be out of scope for your solution.

I do believe in HOPE and I do believe in Dua for keeping THAT hope that one day Nizam-e-ADAL will be implemented "across the board" which will be the starting point to positive changes to come ... now who will be torch bearer I have to wait and see ...

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That post flew over your head like a UAP.

let me rephrase - the inference is a quick dismissal of pre-existing societal notions which are a carry over from previous generations that bring intellectual and moral rot with them. No, I am not proposing a thanos like snap to get rid of everyone over 38.
Nor is it the only solution or a good solution - but unless the inherint ills of society are tackled through a massive or simple combination of solutions many of which have passed through here in the forum and otherwise - all the complaints on Hamid Mirs or Mir Jafars are simple sheepish burial of the ostrich head in the sand.

Using the quote-unquote for Islam implies that whatever proposed social changed which many so called religious reformists try to pass of as an Islamic solution that has NOTHING to do with Islam is not going to solve Pakistani ills. It requires leadership by scientific and economic knowledge experts rather than people proposing we use Jinn for electric power - your poor attempt at takfirism aside.

However, that fact that I had to explain all of this and led to nothing but feel good copy paste of Allama Iqbal’s poetry rather than the actual exegesis of what he was implying and even the basic idea of tying ones camels before leaving it to Allah is lost upon Pakistanis in general.

 

[Adecypher]

That post flew over your head like a UAP.

let me rephrase - the inference is a quick dismissal of pre-existing societal notions which are a carry over from previous generations that bring intellectual and moral rot with them. No, I am not proposing a thanos like snap to get rid of everyone over 38.
Nor is it the only solution or a good solution - but unless the inherint ills of society are tackled through a massive or simple combination of solutions many of which have passed through here in the forum and otherwise - all the complaints on Hamid Mirs or Mir Jafars are simple sheepish burial of the ostrich head in the sand.

Using the quote-unquote for Islam implies that whatever proposed social changed which many so called religious reformists try to pass of as an Islamic solution that has NOTHING to do with Islam is not going to solve Pakistani ills. It requires leadership by scientific and economic knowledge experts rather than people proposing we use Jinn for electric power - your poor attempt at takfirism aside.

However, that fact that I had to explain all of this and led to nothing but feel good copy paste of Allama Iqbal’s poetry rather than the actual exegesis of what he was implying and even the basic idea of tying ones camels before leaving it to Allah is lost upon Pakistanis in general.

Off topic: Man Not again it is 11:52 PM at night and I am laying down and last night you replied to me much later that is AM my time ... well I have read your post and Insha Allah in the morning I will reply to it but you did not get my crude sarcasm ... well good to know your are not that hopeless after all ... later

 

[Riz]

great fighter . pakistanis should save freedom of speech , democracy and independence by supporting Hamid mir .

Thank you Mr. Pajeet kumar saksaina Your message will be conveyed to the concerned authorities

 

[S.Y.A]

That post flew over your head like a UAP.

let me rephrase - the inference is a quick dismissal of pre-existing societal notions which are a carry over from previous generations that bring intellectual and moral rot with them. No, I am not proposing a thanos like snap to get rid of everyone over 38.
Nor is it the only solution or a good solution - but unless the inherint ills of society are tackled through a massive or simple combination of solutions many of which have passed through here in the forum and otherwise - all the complaints on Hamid Mirs or Mir Jafars are simple sheepish burial of the ostrich head in the sand.

Using the quote-unquote for Islam implies that whatever proposed social changed which many so called religious reformists try to pass of as an Islamic solution that has NOTHING to do with Islam is not going to solve Pakistani ills. It requires leadership by scientific and economic knowledge experts rather than people proposing we use Jinn for electric power - your poor attempt at takfirism aside.

However, that fact that I had to explain all of this and led to nothing but feel good copy paste of Allama Iqbal’s poetry rather than the actual exegesis of what he was implying and even the basic idea of tying ones camels before leaving it to Allah is lost upon Pakistanis in general.

nothing is going to change until and unless a foreign power occupies Pakistan, one that has no links whatsoever to the people here, and then set things right.

any revolution, or martial law, or whatever led by locals will fail. why? because they are locals. everyone has a businessman, judge, lawyer, military person, policeman, or bureaucrat in their family. they are not going to go against them. and they are not going to punish people of their area, region, ethnicity, sect, family etc. This is why even our dictatorships failed.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Pakistani Journalist Hamid Mir's Unhinged Response to Attack on Asad Toor

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Hamid Mir, a primetime TV talk show host, has reacted angrily to an attack on fellow Pakistani journalist Asad Ali Toor this week. Without explicitly naming anyone in the Pakistan Army or the ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence Service), Mir has accused their leadership of cowardice in allegedly ordering attacks on journalists. Dredging up the name of "General Rani", believed to have been former Army Chief and President Yahya Khan's mistress in the 1970s, Hamid Mir has threatened to reveal similar scandals of current Pakistan Army generals.

Hamid Mir (2nd from right) with Asad Toor

Pakistan ISI has denied any role in the attack on Toor. A statement of the agency said: "The ISI believes that when the faces of the accused can be clearly seen on CCTV, there should be no hurdle in the investigation" It further added, "The continuation of such allegations shows that the ISI is being targeted [...] under an organized conspiracy".

This entire episode has raised the following questions:

1. Why the attacks on journalists in Pakistan? Are they specially targeted? Are other ordinary citizens subjected to similar but less publicized attacks? Is it a symptom of a larger phenomenon of failing criminal justice system?

2. Why are the Pakistani military and intelligence agencies automatically blamed without any investigation or evidence? Whose responsibility is it to carry out such investigations and prosecute perpetrators?

3. Has Hamid Mir crossed the line between journalism and propaganda? Are some Pakistani journalists deliberately maligning Pakistani military and ISI leadership in the name of free speech? Should they be investigated for slander?

4. Where do most Pakistanis stand vis-a-vis the military? Do they have greater confidence in the military or the journalists who blame the military for attacks?

Please watch the following discussion on this subject:

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Pakistan ka masla hi yeh Hai keh yahan koi apni khal main nahi Hai. Na foj, na idary, na adlia, na awam or na sahafi.

Kia khob kaha Tha faiz nain:
Kisay waqeel karain, kissy munsafi chahain..