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By SULTAN AL-TAMIMI | ARAB NEWS

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JEDDAH: Several companies from Pakistan, specialized in the information technology sector, showcased their products and services at an exhibition in Jeddah on Sunday.

PITEX Jeddah 2011 was held at the Jeddah Chamber of Commerce and Industry (JCCI).

“Saudi Arabia is considered an attractive market for Pakistani products and services,” said the consul general of Pakistan, Abdul Salek Khan.

Addressing the opening ceremony, he said Pakistan’s petrochemical industry could serve as a great trade opportunity to Saudi Arabia.

Pakistan also provides excellent investment and business consultancy services, he said.

The chief guest was Mazen Batterjee, deputy chairman of JCCI.

He inaugurated the exhibition, along with the consul general and Sarfraz Ahmad, Minister Commercial.

The consul general stressed the need for sustained interaction to strengthen bilateral economic cooperation.

Khan thanked the JCCI for hosting and promoting PITEX Jeddah 2011, where Pakistani companies displayed their services in the field of software and information technology.

“We need to go a long way to explore the ways and means to increase economic and commercial cooperation between the people of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan which can complement each other and lead to enhanced trade in goods and service,” said the consul general.

He voiced hope the successful conclusion of the exhibition would lead to more trade between the two states.

Batterjee said the show would help strengthen the existing relations between the people and governments of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

He highlighted the tremendous progress made in the Kingdom, which offers excellent opportunities to all trade sectors, with a special focus on IT development.

He also urged the participants to take advantage of soft loans provided by the Islamic Development Bank to enhance trade within the OIC.

Ten Pakistani companies put up catalogs, brochures and other publicity material of their products and services.

Saudi businessmen showed keen interest in them.
 
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what are the major IT companies of Pakistan??
 
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Pakistani IT companies due to closer cultural integration with Arab world can deliver much more efficiently. Also while India is all hyped about IT, most of it is just government sponsored propaganda. The actual quality of IT services in india is really poor because the people working are paid peanuts to the turn over rate is high.

Currently, the major developed of saudi E-government services is a Pakistan company after Wipro failed to deliver on time as was forced to hand over operations to a Saudi company and exit the market. Now it only exist as a JV with a Saudi company being a majority share holder.
 
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Pakistani IT companies due to closer cultural integration with Arab world can deliver much more efficiently. Also while India is all hyped about IT, most of it is just government sponsored propaganda. The actual quality of IT services in india is really poor because the people working are paid peanuts to the turn over rate is high.

Currently, the major developed of saudi E-government services is a Pakistan company after Wipro failed to deliver on time as was forced to hand over operations to a Saudi company and exit the market. Now it only exist as a JV with a Saudi company being a majority share holder.

are you freaking kidding me ? Indian IT is government propaganda lol Please stop smoking whatever you are. Wipro did not provide any services to the Saudi Government and does not deal in such commodities so thats a lie from you as usual. Do you have any idea where the Indian IT industry stands in the world today ? Please dont be this obsessed with India, Indian IT is based of solid talent that is pumped out every year by the worlds best institutions something that Pakistan seriously lacks so competition with India is non-existent. Its good that the Pakistani IT industry is getting some focus but you do have to go on trolling spree and start bringing India into this argument. And they say Indians are obsessed with Pakistan.
 
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India's IT sector is very very good, they have a huge presence inside the US, as well as having almost everything in America outsourced to Hyderabad & Bangalore; & other cities of South India. While this news is great for Pakistan, & Pakistan is making great strides, India has done a remarkable job, & they deserve plaudits for that. Pakistan needs to forge its own path, & what is good for it. I still don't think it is Pakistan that is obsessed with India, & India deserves the plaudits it is getting for its IT services.
 
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Pakistani IT companies due to closer cultural integration with Arab world can deliver much more efficiently. Also while India is all hyped about IT, most of it is just government sponsored propaganda. The actual quality of IT services in india is really poor because the people working are paid peanuts to the turn over rate is high.

Currently, the major developed of saudi E-government services is a Pakistan company after Wipro failed to deliver on time as was forced to hand over operations to a Saudi company and exit the market. Now it only exist as a JV with a Saudi company being a majority share holder.

Normal drivel and anti India messages from him as usual.

He will get a oppurtunity to bash Reliance and hype up a Pakistani firm if he could. lol
 
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are you freaking kidding me ? Indian IT is government propaganda lol Please stop smoking whatever you are. Wipro did not provide any services to the Saudi Government and does not deal in such commodities so thats a lie from you as usual. Do you have any idea where the Indian IT industry stands in the world today ? Please dont be this obsessed with India, Indian IT is based of solid talent that is pumped out every year by the worlds best institutions something that Pakistan seriously lacks so competition with India is non-existent. Its good that the Pakistani IT industry is getting some focus but you do have to go on trolling spree and start bringing India into this argument. And they say Indians are obsessed with Pakistan.

I live in KSA yet you make judgement from Canada. Offcourse a lot of news, especially negative news never makes it to papers in KSA doesnt mean they dont happen..

Saudi Arabian Airlines selects Wipro to deliver next generation IT infrastructure transformation | PRLog

Part of project called off and handed over to Kale of USA due to mismanagement and quality issues of Wipro.

Saudi Arabia- Wipro signs $750m deal

The KAUST program was called off due to over billing of Wipro and handed over to another company.

Based on solid talent?? Let see..

Adaptec - Indian CEO Subramanian Sundaresh fired.
AIG (signed outsourcing deal in 2007 in Europe with Accenture Indian frauds, collapsed in 2009)
AirBus (Qantas plane plunged 650 feet injuring passengers when its computer system written by India disengaged the auto-pilot).
Apple - R&D CLOSED in India in 2006.
Apple - Foreign guest worker caused the disastrous MobileMe product rollout.
Australia's National Australia Bank (Outsourced jobs to India in 2007, nationwide ATM and account failure in late 2010).
Bell Labs (Arun Netravalli took over, closed, turned into a shopping mall)
Boeing Dreamliner ES software (written by HCL, banned by FAA)
Bristol-Myers-Squibb (Trade Secrets and documents stolen in U.S. by Indian national guest worker)
Caymas - Startup run by Indian CEO, French director of dev, Chinese tech lead. Closed after 5 years of sucking VC out of America.
ComAir crew system run by 100% Indian IT workers caused the 12/25/05 U.S. airport shutdown when they used a short int instead of a long int
Dell - call center (closed in India because Premji's conmen don't even know how to use telephones, let alone computers)
Delta call centers (closed in India because Premji's conmen don't even know how to use telephones, let alone computers)
Fannie Mae- Hired large numbers of Indians, had to be bailed out. Indian logic bomb creator found guilty.
GM - Was booming in 2006, signed $300 million outsourcing deal with Wipro that same year, went bankrupt 3 years later
HSBC ATMs (software taken over by Indians, failed in 2006)
Intel Whitefield processor project (cancelled, Indian staff canned)
Lehman (Spectramind software bought by Wipro, ruined, trashed by Indian programmers)
Microsoft - Employs over 35,000 H-1Bs. Stock used to be $100. Today it's lucky to be over $25. Not to mention that Vista thing.
Microsoft - Lian Yang, Microsoft-Contracted Engineer, Arrested in Smuggling Plot After Another FBI Sting in Portland in 2010
MIT Media Lab Asia (canceled)
PeopleSoft (Taken over by Indians in 2000, collapsed).
Polycom - Former senior executive Sunil Bhalla charged with insider trading.
Qantas - See AirBus above
Quark (Alukah Kamar CEO, fired, lost 60% of its customers to Adobe because Indian-written QuarkExpress 6 was a failure)
Rolls Royce (Sent aircraft engine work to India in 2006, engines delayed for Boeing 787, and failed on at least 2 Quantas planes in 2010, cost Rolls $500m).
Skype (Madhu Yarlagadda fired)
State of Indiana $867 billion FAILED IBM project, IBM being sued
State of Texas failed IBM project.
Sun Micro (Taken over by Indian and Chinese workers in 2001, collapsed, has to be sold off to Oracle).
United - call center (closed in India because Premji's conmen don't even know how to use telephones, let alone computers)
Virgin Atlantic (software written in India caused cloud IT failure)
World Bank (Indian fraudsters BANNED for 3 years because they stole data).


Solid talent or plain cost cutting???

Come on..India is not known to create anything in IT industry. Everything from Cisco IOS to windows, mac, unix, linux, office, winzip, winrar, IE, firefox, Oracle, SQL, SUN came from west.. India H1-B doing fraud to get rich quick..thats all..The hype of Indian IT power cannot be sustained anymore with propaganda.

For the record of it..even Indonesian companies get more IT projects in KSA than Indians..I admit Pakistan may not be that smart or in the spot light..But NADRA did the saudi ID card project, NIFT is doing e-services of kingdom wide chamber of commerce, Atheeb Telecom kicked out all its Indian offshore agents who bought the company to halt and absolute financial crisis due to poor quality work.
 
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I live in KSA yet you make judgement from Canada. Offcourse a lot of news, especially negative news never makes it to papers in KSA doesnt mean they dont happen..

Saudi Arabian Airlines selects Wipro to deliver next generation IT infrastructure transformation | PRLog

Part of project called off and handed over to Kale of USA due to mismanagement and quality issues of Wipro.

Saudi Arabia- Wipro signs $750m deal

The KAUST program was called off due to over billing of Wipro and handed over to another company.

Based on solid talent?? Let see..

Adaptec - Indian CEO Subramanian Sundaresh fired.
AIG (signed outsourcing deal in 2007 in Europe with Accenture Indian frauds, collapsed in 2009)
AirBus (Qantas plane plunged 650 feet injuring passengers when its computer system written by India disengaged the auto-pilot).
Apple - R&D CLOSED in India in 2006.
Apple - Foreign guest worker caused the disastrous MobileMe product rollout.
Australia's National Australia Bank (Outsourced jobs to India in 2007, nationwide ATM and account failure in late 2010).
Bell Labs (Arun Netravalli took over, closed, turned into a shopping mall)
Boeing Dreamliner ES software (written by HCL, banned by FAA)
Bristol-Myers-Squibb (Trade Secrets and documents stolen in U.S. by Indian national guest worker)
Caymas - Startup run by Indian CEO, French director of dev, Chinese tech lead. Closed after 5 years of sucking VC out of America.
ComAir crew system run by 100% Indian IT workers caused the 12/25/05 U.S. airport shutdown when they used a short int instead of a long int
Dell - call center (closed in India because Premji's conmen don't even know how to use telephones, let alone computers)
Delta call centers (closed in India because Premji's conmen don't even know how to use telephones, let alone computers)
Fannie Mae- Hired large numbers of Indians, had to be bailed out. Indian logic bomb creator found guilty.
GM - Was booming in 2006, signed $300 million outsourcing deal with Wipro that same year, went bankrupt 3 years later
HSBC ATMs (software taken over by Indians, failed in 2006)
Intel Whitefield processor project (cancelled, Indian staff canned)
Lehman (Spectramind software bought by Wipro, ruined, trashed by Indian programmers)
Microsoft - Employs over 35,000 H-1Bs. Stock used to be $100. Today it's lucky to be over $25. Not to mention that Vista thing.
Microsoft - Lian Yang, Microsoft-Contracted Engineer, Arrested in Smuggling Plot After Another FBI Sting in Portland in 2010
MIT Media Lab Asia (canceled)
PeopleSoft (Taken over by Indians in 2000, collapsed).
Polycom - Former senior executive Sunil Bhalla charged with insider trading.
Qantas - See AirBus above
Quark (Alukah Kamar CEO, fired, lost 60% of its customers to Adobe because Indian-written QuarkExpress 6 was a failure)
Rolls Royce (Sent aircraft engine work to India in 2006, engines delayed for Boeing 787, and failed on at least 2 Quantas planes in 2010, cost Rolls $500m).
Skype (Madhu Yarlagadda fired)
State of Indiana $867 billion FAILED IBM project, IBM being sued
State of Texas failed IBM project.
Sun Micro (Taken over by Indian and Chinese workers in 2001, collapsed, has to be sold off to Oracle).
United - call center (closed in India because Premji's conmen don't even know how to use telephones, let alone computers)
Virgin Atlantic (software written in India caused cloud IT failure)
World Bank (Indian fraudsters BANNED for 3 years because they stole data).

Wipro got revenue of $8billion last year!!!!!!!!

Thats like 5% of Pakistan economy generated from one Indian IT firm alone!!!
 
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Pakistani IT companies due to closer cultural integration with Arab world can deliver much more efficiently. Also while India is all hyped about IT, most of it is just government sponsored propaganda. The actual quality of IT services in india is really poor because the people working are paid peanuts to the turn over rate is high.

Currently, the major developed of saudi E-government services is a Pakistan company after Wipro failed to deliver on time as was forced to hand over operations to a Saudi company and exit the market. Now it only exist as a JV with a Saudi company being a majority share holder.


What is this yaarrr. India vs pak discussions... YOu come out with FALSE STATEMENTS,,, and we try to correct and say you are wrong .... WE GET BANNED????
 
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I live in KSA yet you make judgement from Canada. Offcourse a lot of news, especially negative news never makes it to papers in KSA doesnt mean they dont happen..

Saudi Arabian Airlines selects Wipro to deliver next generation IT infrastructure transformation | PRLog

Part of project called off and handed over to Kale of USA due to mismanagement and quality issues of Wipro.

Saudi Arabia- Wipro signs $750m deal

The KAUST program was called off due to over billing of Wipro and handed over to another company.

Based on solid talent?? Let see..

Adaptec - Indian CEO Subramanian Sundaresh fired.
AIG (signed outsourcing deal in 2007 in Europe with Accenture Indian frauds, collapsed in 2009)
AirBus (Qantas plane plunged 650 feet injuring passengers when its computer system written by India disengaged the auto-pilot).
Apple - R&D CLOSED in India in 2006.
Apple - Foreign guest worker caused the disastrous MobileMe product rollout.
Australia's National Australia Bank (Outsourced jobs to India in 2007, nationwide ATM and account failure in late 2010).
Bell Labs (Arun Netravalli took over, closed, turned into a shopping mall)
Boeing Dreamliner ES software (written by HCL, banned by FAA)
Bristol-Myers-Squibb (Trade Secrets and documents stolen in U.S. by Indian national guest worker)
Caymas - Startup run by Indian CEO, French director of dev, Chinese tech lead. Closed after 5 years of sucking VC out of America.
ComAir crew system run by 100% Indian IT workers caused the 12/25/05 U.S. airport shutdown when they used a short int instead of a long int
Dell - call center (closed in India because Premji's conmen don't even know how to use telephones, let alone computers)
Delta call centers (closed in India because Premji's conmen don't even know how to use telephones, let alone computers)
Fannie Mae- Hired large numbers of Indians, had to be bailed out. Indian logic bomb creator found guilty.
GM - Was booming in 2006, signed $300 million outsourcing deal with Wipro that same year, went bankrupt 3 years later
HSBC ATMs (software taken over by Indians, failed in 2006)
Intel Whitefield processor project (cancelled, Indian staff canned)
Lehman (Spectramind software bought by Wipro, ruined, trashed by Indian programmers)
Microsoft - Employs over 35,000 H-1Bs. Stock used to be $100. Today it's lucky to be over $25. Not to mention that Vista thing.
Microsoft - Lian Yang, Microsoft-Contracted Engineer, Arrested in Smuggling Plot After Another FBI Sting in Portland in 2010
MIT Media Lab Asia (canceled)
PeopleSoft (Taken over by Indians in 2000, collapsed).
Polycom - Former senior executive Sunil Bhalla charged with insider trading.
Qantas - See AirBus above
Quark (Alukah Kamar CEO, fired, lost 60% of its customers to Adobe because Indian-written QuarkExpress 6 was a failure)
Rolls Royce (Sent aircraft engine work to India in 2006, engines delayed for Boeing 787, and failed on at least 2 Quantas planes in 2010, cost Rolls $500m).
Skype (Madhu Yarlagadda fired)
State of Indiana $867 billion FAILED IBM project, IBM being sued
State of Texas failed IBM project.
Sun Micro (Taken over by Indian and Chinese workers in 2001, collapsed, has to be sold off to Oracle).
United - call center (closed in India because Premji's conmen don't even know how to use telephones, let alone computers)
Virgin Atlantic (software written in India caused cloud IT failure)
World Bank (Indian fraudsters BANNED for 3 years because they stole data).


Solid talent or plain cost cutting???

Come on..India is not known to create anything in IT industry. Everything from Cisco IOS to windows, mac, unix, linux, office, winzip, winrar, IE, firefox, Oracle, SQL, SUN came from west.. India H1-B doing fraud to get rich quick..thats all..The hype of Indian IT power cannot be sustained anymore with propaganda.

For the record of it..even Indonesian companies get more IT projects in KSA than Indians..I admit Pakistan may not be that smart or in the spot light..But NADRA did the saudi ID card project, NIFT is doing e-services of kingdom wide chamber of commerce, Atheeb Telecom kicked out all its Indian offshore agents who bought the company to halt and absolute financial crisis due to poor quality work.

State of Indiana $867 billion FAILED IBM project, IBM being sued
State of Texas failed IBM project.


what a lie, where are you getting all this rubbish from ? Do you know what IBM's Watson was worked upon in India also. Your lies so stupid really. Please stop posting junk, none of what you posted is true.

Do you know the difference between infrastructure and services, Wipro does not deal in the kind of services that the Pakistani firm won, so I dont know what rubbish you are talking about again. Wipro won the bid for the infrastructure component and that deal is still very much alive.

I deal almost on a daily basis with Bangalore so please dont tell me what is good and what is bad. Dont post junk if you dont even know the difference between core IT terms. Peoplesoft collapsed ??????? lol are you drunk ? seriously stop talking, your making a joke out of yourself.

IBM, DELL, PWC, Sunlife, GM, Ford, TD, etc etc are all expanding operations in India and have had bumper quarters on the back of the savings and excellent quality they get from India, let me know when IBM plans to open a R & D center in Pakistan because that will never happen.

Everything you posted is pure garbage and lies, please stop with your obsession with India and wasting time making up junk.

India is atleast 20-30 ahead of Pakistan in terms of IT, the facts are there, you just dont want to see them.
 
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Indian IT is very very good, they have a huge presence inside the US as well, as well as having almost everything in America outsourced to Hyderabad & Bangalore; & other cities of South India. While this news is great for Pakistan, & Pakistan is making great strides, India has done a remarkable job, & they deserve plaudits for that. Pakistan needs to forge its own path, & what is good for it. I still don't think it is Pakistan that is obsessed with India, & India deserves the plaudits it is getting for its IT services.

atleast someone is sane here. Good post.
 
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pakistan has many OT geniuses, but this corruption doesnt let any sector develop, pakistan should have a silicon valley
 
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pakistan has many OT geniuses, but this corruption doesnt let any sector develop, pakistan should have a silicon valley

India should have wall street? common on man lets be realistic/// Silicion valley is composed of google, Microsoft, and big corps
 
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