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That is because Islam is a global religion and has attracted followers and converts from all over the world. Islam is compatiable with every culture and land.
Hinduism is more of a regional religion and has not attracted followers anywhere outside the sub-continent with the only exception of hare krishnas, who are very small in number. Throughout history, people have always converted out of hinduism and hinduism shares similarities with paganism.
And not all the sacred places of hinduism are in india anymore.
Almost the entire history that the hindus claim as their own happened in the land called Pakistan. The Indus valley civilization almost in it's entirety was in Pakistan. It is debateable but is even argued that hinduism infact originated in Pakistan and that is where the vedas scriptures were written.
It pains the hindus when they see that the land of such historical significance to them is now in muslim hands FOREVER. Now hindus are less than 2% of Pakistan's population and soon even they will all be muslimized the Rinkle Kumari way
or shipped out of the country. In a few more generations there will be no trace of hinduism left in Pakistan!!
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That is because Islam is a global religion and has attracted followers and converts from all over the world. Islam is compatiable with every culture and land.
Hinduism is more of a regional religion and has not attracted followers anywhere outside the sub-continent with the only exception of hare krishnas, who are very small in number. Throughout history, people have always converted out of hinduism and hinduism shares similarities with paganism.
And not all the sacred places of hinduism are in india anymore.
Almost the entire history that the hindus claim as their own happened in the land called Pakistan. The Indus valley civilization almost in it's entirety was in Pakistan. It is debateable but is even argued that hinduism infact originated in Pakistan and that is where the vedas scriptures were written.
It pains the hindus when they see that the land of such historical significance to them is now in muslim hands FOREVER. Now hindus are less than 2% of Pakistan's population and soon even they will all be muslimized the Rinkle Kumari way
So you admit that a Muslim Zionist country indulged in killing minorities to eradicate all non-Muslims. Shame!!
Jinnah's soul might be in deep pain after looking at where his land of sacred is heading.
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That is because Islam is a global religion and has attracted followers and converts from all over the world. Islam is compatiable with every culture and land.
Hinduism is more of a regional religion and has not attracted followers anywhere outside the sub-continent with the only exception of hare krishnas, who are very small in number. Throughout history, people have always converted out of hinduism and hinduism shares similarities with paganism.
And not all the sacred places of hinduism are in india anymore.
Almost the entire history that the hindus claim as their own happened in the land called Pakistan. The Indus valley civilization almost in it's entirety was in Pakistan. It is debateable but is even argued that hinduism infact originated in Pakistan and that is where the vedas scriptures were written.
It pains the hindus when they see that the land of such historical significance to them is now in muslim hands FOREVER. Now hindus are less than 2% of Pakistan's population and soon even they will all be muslimized the Rinkle Kumari way
I always wondered how your quaid e azam Mr. Jinnah failed to see the divisions when he proposed his two nation theory. He failed to see Muslim psyche- how they behave when they are in a majority.Unfortunately, Hindus and Christians will be persecuted lot in your country.
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Dozens of Pakistani Hindus seek asylum in India: report
ISLAMABAD: A group of Pakistani Hindus arriving in the Indian state of Rajhasthan says that they will not return to their home country, according to a report published by the BBCUrdu.
The group of 171 people arrived in Rajhasthans Jodhpur city via the Thar Express train on Sunday.
Although the passengers in the group traveled to the Indian state on pilgrimage visas for religious purposes, they claim they will not return to Pakistan.
The Seemant Lok Sangthan (SLS), an organisation for Hindus from Pakistan settled in India, has appealed to the Indian government to grant the group immigrant visas.
According to a spokesman of the organisation, all 171 people in the group have arrived in Jodhpur from Pakistans Sindh province, and they all belong to Sanghar or Hyderabad.
The group comprises of 32 women and children of whom a majority belong to the low-caste Bheel community of Hindus.
You can not understand our pain. My father recently passed away; I could not even find a place to perform my fathers last rites, the BBCUrdu quoted one of the people arriving with the group. We will not go back to Pakistan. You may kill us if you wish, but we will not return.
The news follows media reports earlier last month of hundreds of Pakistani Hindu nationals from Sindh allegedly migrating to India over concerns of religious persecution and security fears. A committee was formed by President Asif Ali Zardari to look into the reports of mass migration. However, the committee rejected the claims that members of the minority community were leaving Sindh.
Later in August, authorities in Rajhasthan state announced that around 900 Pakistani Hindus had become eligible to apply for Indian citizenship. The people included those Pakistanis who had traveled to India prior to December 31, 2004 and refused return to their home country.
ISLAMABAD: A group of Pakistani Hindus arriving in the Indian state of Rajhasthan says that they will not return to their home country, according to a report published by the BBCUrdu.
The group of 171 people arrived in Rajhasthans Jodhpur city via the Thar Express train on Sunday.
Although the passengers in the group traveled to the Indian state on pilgrimage visas for religious purposes, they claim they will not return to Pakistan.
The Seemant Lok Sangthan (SLS), an organisation for Hindus from Pakistan settled in India, has appealed to the Indian government to grant the group immigrant visas.
According to a spokesman of the organisation, all 171 people in the group have arrived in Jodhpur from Pakistans Sindh province, and they all belong to Sanghar or Hyderabad.
The group comprises of 32 women and children of whom a majority belong to the low-caste Bheel community of Hindus.
You can not understand our pain. My father recently passed away; I could not even find a place to perform my fathers last rites, the BBCUrdu quoted one of the people arriving with the group. We will not go back to Pakistan. You may kill us if you wish, but we will not return.
The news follows media reports earlier last month of hundreds of Pakistani Hindu nationals from Sindh allegedly migrating to India over concerns of religious persecution and security fears. A committee was formed by President Asif Ali Zardari to look into the reports of mass migration. However, the committee rejected the claims that members of the minority community were leaving Sindh.
Later in August, authorities in Rajhasthan state announced that around 900 Pakistani Hindus had become eligible to apply for Indian citizenship. The people included those Pakistanis who had traveled to India prior to December 31, 2004 and refused return to their home country.
LOL. Did they also showed muslim men/women converted to Hinduism ?
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That is because Islam is a global religion and has attracted followers and converts from all over the world. Islam is compatiable with every culture and land.
Hinduism is more of a regional religion and has not attracted followers anywhere outside the sub-continent with the only exception of hare krishnas, who are very small in number. Throughout history, people have always converted out of hinduism and hinduism shares similarities with paganism.
And not all the sacred places of hinduism are in india anymore.
Almost the entire history that the hindus claim as their own happened in the land called Pakistan. The Indus valley civilization almost in it's entirety was in Pakistan. It is debateable but is even argued that hinduism infact originated in Pakistan and that is where the vedas scriptures were written.
It pains the hindus when they see that the land of such historical significance to them is now in muslim hands FOREVER. Now hindus are less than 2% of Pakistan's population and soon even they will all be muslimized the Rinkle Kumari way
Wheee did you pick up these very weird views?
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That is because Islam is a global religion and has attracted followers and converts from all over the world. Islam is compatiable with every culture and land.
Hinduism is more of a regional religion and has not attracted followers anywhere outside the sub-continent with the only exception of hare krishnas, who are very small in number. Throughout history, people have always converted out of hinduism and hinduism shares similarities with paganism.
And not all the sacred places of hinduism are in india anymore.
Almost the entire history that the hindus claim as their own happened in the land called Pakistan. The Indus valley civilization almost in it's entirety was in Pakistan. It is debateable but is even argued that hinduism infact originated in Pakistan and that is where the vedas scriptures were written.
It pains the hindus when they see that the land of such historical significance to them is now in muslim hands FOREVER. Now hindus are less than 2% of Pakistan's population and soon even they will all be muslimized the Rinkle Kumari way
Don't be so sure of that.
Don't assume there will never be a justice to this monstrous atrocity.
That there will not be hell to pay for this barbarity.
It is in fact a matter of time.
Several ideologies have come and gone. There is no reason this one will last.
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Pakistani Hindus feel under attack.
AP | 32 mins ago
KARACHI: They came after dusk and chanted into the night sky Kill the Hindus, kill the children of the Hindus, as they smashed religious icons, ripped golden bangles off womens arms and flashed pistols. It wasnt the first time that the Hindu temple on the outskirts of Pakistans largest city was attacked, and residents here fear it will not be the last.
People dont consider us as equal citizens. They beat us whenever they want, said Mol Chand, one of the teenage boys gathered at the temple. We have no place to worship now.
It was the second time the Sri Krishna Ram temple has been attacked, and this time the mob didnt even bother to disguise their faces. The small temple, surrounded by a stone wall, is a tiny religious outpost in a dusty, hardscrabble neighbourhood so far on the outskirts of the city that a sign on the main road wishes people leaving Karachi a good journey.
Local Muslim residents blamed people from a nearby ethnic Pashtun village for the attack, which took place in late September on the Day of Love for the Prophet, a national holiday declared by the government in response to an anti-Islam film made in the US. No one was seriously injured in the attack.
It was the latest in a rising tide of violence and discrimination against Hindus in this 95 per cent Muslim country, where religious extremism is growing. Pakistans Hindu community says it faces forced conversions of Hindu girls to Islam, a lack of legal recognition for their marriages, discrimination in services and physical abuse when they venture into the streets.
The story of the Hindu population in Pakistan is one of long decline. During partition in 1947, the violent separation of Pakistan and India into separate countries, hundreds of thousands of Hindus opted to migrate to India where Hinduism is the dominant religion. Those that remained and their descendants now make up a tiny fraction of Pakistans estimated 190 million citizens, and are mostly concentrated in Sindh province in the southern part of the country.
Signs of their former stature abound in Karachi, the capital of Sindh. At the 150-year-old Swami Narayan Temple along one of the citys main roads, thousands of Hindus gather during the year to celebrate major religious holidays. Hindus at the 200-year-old Laxmi Narain Temple scatter the ashes of their cremated loved ones in the waters of an inlet from the Arabian Ocean.
But there are also signs of how far the community has fallen. Residents in a city hungry for land have begun to build over Hindu cemeteries, the communitys leaders say. Hindus helped build Karachis port decades ago, but none work there now.
Estimates of the size of the Hindu population in Pakistan are all over the map from 2.5 million or 10 million in Sindh province alone to seven million across the country a reflection of the fact that the country hasnt had a census since 1998.
It isnt just Hindus who are facing problems. Other minorities like Christians, the mystical Muslim branch of Sufis and the Ahmedi community have found themselves under attack in Pakistan, where the rise of religious fundamentalists has sometimes unleashed a violent opposition against those who dont follow their strict religious tenets.
The discrimination has prompted some Hindus to leave for India, activists warn, though the extent is not known. Around 3,000 Hindus left this year, part of a migration that began four years ago, sparked by discrimination and a general rise in crime in Sindh, said DM Maharaj, who heads an organisation to help Hindus called Pakistan Hindu Sabha.
He said he recently talked to a group of Hindus preparing to move to India from rural Sindh, complaining that they cant eat in Muslim restaurants or that Muslim officials turned them down for farming loans. Even during recent floods, they said Muslims did not want them staying in the same refugee camps.
Other Hindu figures such as provincial assembly member Pitamber Sewami deny theres a migration at all, in a reflection of how sensitive the issue is. Earlier this year, there were a string of reports in Pakistani media about Hindus leaving the country, sparking a flurry of promises by Pakistani officials to investigate.
In India, a Home office official said the Indian government noticed an upward trend of people coming from Pakistan but called reports of Pakistanis fleeing to India exaggerated. He said he does not have exact figures on how many Pakistani Hindus have stayed in India after entering the country on tourist visas. The official spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the topic.
Theres more of a consensus of the seriousness of the problem of forced conversion of Hindus.
Zohra Yusuf, the president of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan says the pattern goes like this: A Hindu girl goes missing and then resurfaces days or weeks later married to a Muslim boy. During court hearings to determine whether the conversion was voluntary, students from nearby Islamic schools called madrassahs often flood the room, trying to intimidate the judges by chanting demands that the conversion be confirmed.
Maharaj says hes tried to intervene in roughly 100 cases of forced conversions but has only succeeded in returning a girl safely back to her family once. If a girl decides to renounce Islam and return to Hinduism, she could be signing a death warrant for herself and her family even if her conversion was forced.
The Hindu community has also been hurt by a lack of unity within its ranks. Hindu society within Pakistan and elsewhere has historically been divided by caste, a system of social stratification in which the lower castes are often seen as inferior. Members of the lower castes in Pakistan say it wasnt until two girls from a high-caste family were forcibly converted this year that high-caste Hindus took the issue seriously, although its been happening for years.
We always fight our war ourselves, said Bholoo Devjee, a Hindu activist from Karachi, speaking about the lower castes.
In recent months the government has begun to take the concerns of the Hindu community more seriously. In Sindh province, legislators proposed a law to prevent forced conversions in part by implementing a waiting period before a marriage between a Hindu and a Muslim can go forward, and theres discussion about proposing such a law on the national level as well.
In the case of the Sri Krishna Ram temple, law enforcement authorities opened a blasphemy case against the people who rampaged through the building. But residents here are skeptical that these developments signify any long-term improvement in their plight. Weeks after the incident no arrests have been made, and the Hindus complain that no high-ranking Hindu officials have come to visit them or help them get compensation.
Sunda Maharaj, the spiritual leader at the temple, which was first attacked in January 2011, said he and the other residents do not want to move to India. We are Pakistani, he said.
But he would like more help from the government, specifically a checkpoint to stop people from getting close to the temple and money for the Hindus to buy weapons.
Next time anyone comes we can kill them or die defending our temple, he said.
Pakistani Hindus feel under attack | DAWN.COM
AP | 32 mins ago
KARACHI: They came after dusk and chanted into the night sky Kill the Hindus, kill the children of the Hindus, as they smashed religious icons, ripped golden bangles off womens arms and flashed pistols. It wasnt the first time that the Hindu temple on the outskirts of Pakistans largest city was attacked, and residents here fear it will not be the last.
People dont consider us as equal citizens. They beat us whenever they want, said Mol Chand, one of the teenage boys gathered at the temple. We have no place to worship now.
It was the second time the Sri Krishna Ram temple has been attacked, and this time the mob didnt even bother to disguise their faces. The small temple, surrounded by a stone wall, is a tiny religious outpost in a dusty, hardscrabble neighbourhood so far on the outskirts of the city that a sign on the main road wishes people leaving Karachi a good journey.
Local Muslim residents blamed people from a nearby ethnic Pashtun village for the attack, which took place in late September on the Day of Love for the Prophet, a national holiday declared by the government in response to an anti-Islam film made in the US. No one was seriously injured in the attack.
It was the latest in a rising tide of violence and discrimination against Hindus in this 95 per cent Muslim country, where religious extremism is growing. Pakistans Hindu community says it faces forced conversions of Hindu girls to Islam, a lack of legal recognition for their marriages, discrimination in services and physical abuse when they venture into the streets.
The story of the Hindu population in Pakistan is one of long decline. During partition in 1947, the violent separation of Pakistan and India into separate countries, hundreds of thousands of Hindus opted to migrate to India where Hinduism is the dominant religion. Those that remained and their descendants now make up a tiny fraction of Pakistans estimated 190 million citizens, and are mostly concentrated in Sindh province in the southern part of the country.
Signs of their former stature abound in Karachi, the capital of Sindh. At the 150-year-old Swami Narayan Temple along one of the citys main roads, thousands of Hindus gather during the year to celebrate major religious holidays. Hindus at the 200-year-old Laxmi Narain Temple scatter the ashes of their cremated loved ones in the waters of an inlet from the Arabian Ocean.
But there are also signs of how far the community has fallen. Residents in a city hungry for land have begun to build over Hindu cemeteries, the communitys leaders say. Hindus helped build Karachis port decades ago, but none work there now.
Estimates of the size of the Hindu population in Pakistan are all over the map from 2.5 million or 10 million in Sindh province alone to seven million across the country a reflection of the fact that the country hasnt had a census since 1998.
It isnt just Hindus who are facing problems. Other minorities like Christians, the mystical Muslim branch of Sufis and the Ahmedi community have found themselves under attack in Pakistan, where the rise of religious fundamentalists has sometimes unleashed a violent opposition against those who dont follow their strict religious tenets.
The discrimination has prompted some Hindus to leave for India, activists warn, though the extent is not known. Around 3,000 Hindus left this year, part of a migration that began four years ago, sparked by discrimination and a general rise in crime in Sindh, said DM Maharaj, who heads an organisation to help Hindus called Pakistan Hindu Sabha.
He said he recently talked to a group of Hindus preparing to move to India from rural Sindh, complaining that they cant eat in Muslim restaurants or that Muslim officials turned them down for farming loans. Even during recent floods, they said Muslims did not want them staying in the same refugee camps.
Other Hindu figures such as provincial assembly member Pitamber Sewami deny theres a migration at all, in a reflection of how sensitive the issue is. Earlier this year, there were a string of reports in Pakistani media about Hindus leaving the country, sparking a flurry of promises by Pakistani officials to investigate.
In India, a Home office official said the Indian government noticed an upward trend of people coming from Pakistan but called reports of Pakistanis fleeing to India exaggerated. He said he does not have exact figures on how many Pakistani Hindus have stayed in India after entering the country on tourist visas. The official spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the topic.
Theres more of a consensus of the seriousness of the problem of forced conversion of Hindus.
Zohra Yusuf, the president of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan says the pattern goes like this: A Hindu girl goes missing and then resurfaces days or weeks later married to a Muslim boy. During court hearings to determine whether the conversion was voluntary, students from nearby Islamic schools called madrassahs often flood the room, trying to intimidate the judges by chanting demands that the conversion be confirmed.
Maharaj says hes tried to intervene in roughly 100 cases of forced conversions but has only succeeded in returning a girl safely back to her family once. If a girl decides to renounce Islam and return to Hinduism, she could be signing a death warrant for herself and her family even if her conversion was forced.
The Hindu community has also been hurt by a lack of unity within its ranks. Hindu society within Pakistan and elsewhere has historically been divided by caste, a system of social stratification in which the lower castes are often seen as inferior. Members of the lower castes in Pakistan say it wasnt until two girls from a high-caste family were forcibly converted this year that high-caste Hindus took the issue seriously, although its been happening for years.
We always fight our war ourselves, said Bholoo Devjee, a Hindu activist from Karachi, speaking about the lower castes.
In recent months the government has begun to take the concerns of the Hindu community more seriously. In Sindh province, legislators proposed a law to prevent forced conversions in part by implementing a waiting period before a marriage between a Hindu and a Muslim can go forward, and theres discussion about proposing such a law on the national level as well.
In the case of the Sri Krishna Ram temple, law enforcement authorities opened a blasphemy case against the people who rampaged through the building. But residents here are skeptical that these developments signify any long-term improvement in their plight. Weeks after the incident no arrests have been made, and the Hindus complain that no high-ranking Hindu officials have come to visit them or help them get compensation.
Sunda Maharaj, the spiritual leader at the temple, which was first attacked in January 2011, said he and the other residents do not want to move to India. We are Pakistani, he said.
But he would like more help from the government, specifically a checkpoint to stop people from getting close to the temple and money for the Hindus to buy weapons.
Next time anyone comes we can kill them or die defending our temple, he said.
Pakistani Hindus feel under attack | DAWN.COM
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The Govt of Pakistan needs to take practical steps for protecting our Hindu Pakistani citizens.
The society needs to come forward and support our countrymen.
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How will you succeed do such task when Hindu bashing is an integral part of Pakistan from media movies textbooks everywhere.
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Muslim bashing is integral part of India and Indians from media movies and so on.
anyway dont consider our countering of Indians' anti-Pakistan rants on this forum as "Hindu bashing"
Indian bashing is not Hindu bashing.
anyway on topic. My stand is in support of our Hindu Pakistanis and i dont see any reason why this stupid attack should not be condemned.
The Hindu organizations in Pakistan should become more active to force the government for protection of their rights. The Muslims should join hands to protect them and media should take up the issues more vigorously. I am available to highlight their issues.
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I was watching some Pakistanis movie, dialogue was like "Hindus are dogs" as spoken by the Hero of the movie. So much tolerant Pakistan and their censor board.
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