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Does this name sring any bells Ahmad shah abdali, i think he finished the marhattas off, any arguments?

Muhammad Ghuri only covered western Punjabi did he, if so why was he sitting as the king in Delhi?

Bark all you like you know your history Ian full of slavery and ours is full of conquest and rule.

Ps don't you guys want prithvi raj chohans bones, when you coming to collect.

Have you ever read about the massacre of Yusufzai or how Aurangzeb killed lots of Pashtuns or life of Khushal Khan Khattak who revolted against Mughals. Most of the Sultans were busy in suppressing Pashtuns and Pashtuns got their identity only after Durranis came to power.

What an identity crisis, Afghan Pashtuns are way better than you they don't patronize their own oppressors.
 
She claims that only 3 percent of Indian population shares similarities with pak Punjabi, sindhis she dont say the that they are the same, we booted the Sikh Hindu punjabis out, now sad thing is you don't even have your name for your land, using the ironic words to say land of 5 rivers.

Good, proof of the "peaceful and tolerant" and "final and perfect" ideology. ;)

Now, hundreds of thousands of you Pushtunwali tribals are IDPs within Pakistan, millions from across the non existent Durand, the ones who are abused by the Punjabis and others as terrorists. Millions of you have been killed and are being killed for decades on end.

You need sympathy and support, not bravado.

It actually looks quite foolish if you think about it. ;)

A few thousand Pushtun Taliban has suppressed 30 millions other Pushtuns in their homes! The lawless kabailis were supposed to be "fighters", they turned out to need the support of the dalkhors?

Have you ever read about the massacre of Yusufzai or how Aurangzeb killed lots of Pashtuns or life of Khushal Khan Khattak who revolted against Mughals. Most of the Sultans were busy in suppressing Pashtuns and Pashtuns got their identity only after Durranis came to power.

Every Mughal emperor hunted them and despised them.

Babur calls the Pushtun cowards who would surrender with grass in their mouths. He made pyramids of Pushtun skulls and proudly wrote about it.

What an identity crisis, Afghan Pashtuns are way better than you they don't patronize their own oppressors.

It is identity crisis. Coupled with indoctrination and wrong facts fed as absolute truths.
 
Good, proof of the "peaceful and tolerant" and "final and perfect" ideology. ;)

Now, hundreds of thousands of you Pushtunwali tribals are IDPs within Pakistan, millions from across the non existent Durand, the ones who are abused by the Punjabis and others as terrorists. Millions of you have been killed and are being killed for decades on end.

You need sympathy and support, not bravado.

It actually looks quite foolish if you think about it. ;)

A few thousand Pushtun Taliban has suppressed 30 millions other Pushtuns in their homes! The lawless kabailis were supposed to be "fighters", they turned out to need the support of the dalkhors?

Like you guys are all Indians, we are all pakistanis, no pukhtoons etc, look at your own country where the untouchables are raped killed, called outcasts and low cast, where they are denied their basic rights, where Sikh have been slaughtered in their own temples, Christians killed burnt, this happens obviously daily basis in India.

Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

If dravidians and north Indians are all Indians even though they share no genes and culture,why is this not possible for pakistanis why do they have to be pukhtoons, balochs etc and not just pakistanis in your book?
 
Like you guys are all Indians, we are all pakistanis, no pukhtoons etc, look at your own country where the untouchables are raped killed, called outcasts and low cast, where they are denied their basic rights, where Sikh have been slaughtered in their own temples, Christians killed burnt, this happens obviously daily basis in India.

Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

If dravidians and north Indians are all Indians even though they share no genes and culture,why is this not possible for pakistanis why do they have to be pukhtoons, balochs etc and not just pakistanis in your book?

I really have to answer this?

Read your own posts!

Are you the dalits of Pakistan, the great unwashed? ;)
 
I really have to answer this?

Read your own posts!

Are you the dalits of Pakistan, the great unwashed? ;)

Don't you know everyone in Pakistan call himself a fair handsome looking Pakhtoon or a Kashmiri who are not related to dark Indians. :rofl::rofl:
 
I really have to answer this?

Read your own posts!

Are you the dalits of Pakistan, the great unwashed? ;)

No i am no dalit but are you a son of devadasi, those women whose job is to sexually please all worshippers in the temple?
 
No i am no dalit but are you a son of devadasi, those women whose job is to sexually please all worshippers in the temple?

I knew the Pushtunwali will come to personal attacks immediately.

I will spare writing about your mother and sister. I will let there be some difference between civilized people and nomad barbarians.
 
Memoirs of a Hindu girl

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I grew up in fear – every face around me depicted nothing but fear. I am sure that the first expression on my parent’s face on my birth as a female child born to Hindu parents living in Kandhkot would have been that of fear also. Why did I bring so much fear into the lives of my parents? I grew up always wondering what is it about me that continues to terrify. But I always drew a blank. How naïve I was.

Before I knew it, the time to attend school had arrived. School was comfortable; however, there were times when I felt like an outsider, finding it difficult to gel in with rest of the majority. Perhaps the snide remarks and incidents of discrimination led me to believe that I am not one of ‘them’. Of those incidents, I still vividly remember no one eating with me and refusing to sip from the cup I drank from.

Home wasn’t very different either. My mother asked questions about my life at school and otherwise looking for answers that would somehow relinquish her from the unknown fear. Afraid to disappoint her, I realised very early in my life that my mother could not be my confidant.

Growing up was not easy.

And then it happened. The fears of my mother and many Hindu mothers like her materialised. I went out to one of the largest markets of Kandhkot and was abducted by a man I knew very well. He was none other than the guard who was responsible for safeguarding our temples.

Knowing his face well prompted me to sit with him in his car without protest, however, instead of taking me to my house he turned to an alley that I wasn’t too familiar with. Scared and unsure about what lay ahead I started screaming just to hear my abductor scream louder and threaten me. Astonished and unable to comprehend the gravity of the situation I sat still until it was time to step out of the car to a small house which looked abandoned.

We entered the house to find a large room devoid of any furniture and other bearings except for a carpet that covered the floor. I was made to sit down on the floor.

Uncertain about what was going to happen to me; my mind raced with thoughts of the recent news of the abductions and forced conversions of Hindu girls. I sat there shuddering. The realisation struck me and I could see my entire life in front of me in kaleidoscope. My mother’s fears, my father’s warnings, the alienation I felt, the yearning to be a part of the circle of friends, the search for a confidant, a friend.

My worst fears were reaffirmed when a man wearing a turban entered the room to teach me about a religion which I grew up hearing about, however, felt no urge to practise or embrace. He kept sermonising me for hours but was unable to get me to listen to him, realising that he left asking me to ponder about the true religion.

His departure did not ignite any fire for eternal glory inside me but only made me wonder why did my parents not relocate to another country when they had the chance to do so? Why did they continue to live in fear waiting for the inevitable to happen instead of making a move to safer pastures? And, what made me think that I am any different from countless girls who are forced to change their faith?

Each passing day appeared to be more and more surreal. The ritual of preaching continued for days, I lost track. Eventually, when preaching did not do the trick, my abductor threatened me.

The routine ranging from threats to persuasion and from glorifying the paradise to the wrath of God for non-believers only made me wonder: Do we not all pray to the same God — a God who is manifested in nature, colours, happiness and love? Why would he punish me for being a Hindu?

Somewhere along this relentless persuasion, came that horrifying threat of harming my family – I gave in. My approval followed a small ceremony in which I was forced to embrace Islam and later married off to the man who will always be remembered as the ‘messiah’ who for saved me from the unknown territory of sin and infidelity I was treading on.

After the ceremony, instead of receiving blessings for a happy and prosperous life ahead, I was immediately escorted to a local court where a Muslim magistrate declared my conversion and marriage in accordance with the law.

The news of my conversion and marriage to a Muslim man spread like wildfire. I dreaded the moment of meeting my parents. I never wanted to see pain and agony on their faces let alone be the reason for all their grief. Sure enough, one look at my mother made me yearn for my own death.

I wanted to tell her that I love her and that her safety was all I had in mind when I converted. I wanted to tell my father to keep my sisters safe. I wanted to tell my brothers to leave the country whilst they still could. I wanted to say much more but their silent pain and suffering made me wish if only I wasn’t born a girl, if only I wasn’t born in Pakistan, if only I had the right to be myself and practise my faith without being herded into a religion that I failed to comprehend, if only I could make them all understand that there is just one God for all, if only I could give us all an identity that we rightly deserve.

Looking at all the faces that once seemed familiar; I wondered: who am I?

I am one but share the pain of many. I am Rachna Kumari, Rinkle Kumari, Manisha Kumari and the many more Hindu girls who will be forced to convert in Pakistan. I am the fear of their families and the agony that they undergo. I am the misery of those girls who die a little every day for the injustices done to them.

I am a minority living in an intolerant society.



The writer is a Reporter at Dawn.com
 
Whats the Point of forcing some one in to a religion. by threat or persuasion. Is god so weak he cant garner followers himself.
 
Pakistan was not created for Hindus, they should have migrated to India.
 
919 Pakistani Hindus eligible for Indian citizenship: Report
By Web Desk
Published: August 31, 2012
JAIPUR: The Rajasthan government has initiated a process to grant Indian citizenship to 919 Pakistani Hindus who migrated to India before December 31, 2004, the Deccan Chronicle (DC) reported on Friday.
The administration has asked such migrants to submit relevant documents and other details for this purpose.
The DC report quoted additional magistrate of Jodhpur Rajendra Singh Rathore as saying: “As per our record, these 919 Pakistani Hindu nationals have completed seven years of their stay in India, the basic eligibility to apply for citizenship.
“We have asked them to follow the procedure and if they fulfil all conditions, including fees, they will be granted citizenship,” Rathore added.
The step comes weeks after many Hindus from Balochistan and Sindh have reportedly migrated to India due to lack of security and persecution of their community.
919 Pakistani Hindus eligible for Indian citizenship: Report – The Express Tribune
 
ARY channel showing detailed interview of Ex. hindu girls..
All insists they embraced Islam on their own and denies all claims by their relatives of abduction and forced conversion..

A girl called Manisha Kumari being interviewed
Police officer involved in her case says that investigation revealed that she had been chatting the boy on the internet for too long and they themselves planned all that in between themselves...
Court proceeding excerpts were shown on the program...it shows judges remarks in which it says that the girl was asked if she wants to meet her parents and she refused...

Manisha Kumari says she was preached Islam by her school friends and was thinking of conversion since her childhood....

The program also shows two Hindu men who are now Muslims..debunking the concept that only hindu girls are converted...its boys too..
 
Hindu is a hate term, according Pakistan judiciary and shall not be used in text books, than why news media is allowed?
 
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