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Saudi Arabia is normalising relations with Israel
Monday, 10 August 2020

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A drama series telecast on the Saudi-controlled MBC during the holy month of Ramadan is being seen as a clear signal from Saudi Arabia about its growing ties with Israel.

The TV series, ‘Umm Haroun’ (mother of Aaron), begins with a long monologue in Hebrew, in which a Jewish character says “we are the Gulf Jews who were born in the Gulf lands.”

Although Saudi-Israeli, behind-the-scene parleys, have been an open secret for long, since Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, popularly known as MbS, took over as the de facto ruler the warming of ties between two bitter enemies of Iran has become quite obvious.

The first clear sign of rapprochement came when in 2018 in an interview to the US magazine The Atlantic, MbS said that Israelis are entitled to live peacefully on their own land, a complete U-turn from the stated Saudi policy that normalisation of relations hinges on an Israeli withdrawal from lands captured in the 1967 Middle East war – territory Palestinians seek for a future state.

Although the drama series has sparked sharp criticism among the Arabs, especially Palestinians, who still see Israel as the real enemy of Arabs and Muslims, political analysts say both the states are following the badge the enemy of my enemy is my friend as both see Iran as a real threat to them.

Writing in Haaretz, commentator Zvi Bar’el says Saudi Arabia has emerged as Israel’s ‘dream state’. He says Israel has no better ally than Saudi Arabia. It fights Hezbollah and overthrew the Lebanese prime minister who had lived in peace with that organization for a year. There is no other country in the world, including the United States, that acts with such resolve against Iran. Saudi Arabia even went to war in Yemen, not for the Yemenis, who as far as Riyadh is concerned could die of starvation, but to block Iran’s influence.

Bar’el further says it seems as if Saudi Arabia would be happy to have Israel join the “Sunni axis”. He says to be part of this new alliance, Israel may have to make some concession and does not see any harm in reviving the Saudi peace initiative, which calls for Arab normalisation with Israel in return for withdrawing from the occupied Palestinian territories.

However, many Middle East experts don’t expect Saudis to push the Israelis on the Palestinian issue as their priorities have changed.

This view is in consonance with the theme of drama Exit 7, also telecast during Ramadan, which shows that Saudis are abandoning the Palestinian cause as one character played by Saudi actor Rashid Al Shamrani says he would happily do business with Israelis and argues that Palestinians are the real enemy for “insulting” Saudi Arabia “day and night.”

However, the biggest indication came when Saudi newspaper Arab News published a long interview of Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdul Karim Al-Issa, secretary-general of the Muslim World League, a leading religious Muslim nongovernmental organization based in Makkah.

Quoting the Quran and hadith (sayings of Prophet Muhammad), Sheikh Al-Issa said: “It is permissible to engage in normal business and friendly relations with members of other faiths, including Jews, as was the case in the Prophet Muhammad’s time.”

Further endorsing relations with Jews, he said: “With our Jewish brothers, we concluded agreements and mutual cooperation, and we love them and respect them greatly, far from the problems of politics, as our principle is not to interfere in politics.”

Speaking on the alliance with the Jewish state, Sheikh Al-Issa quoted the famous Madinah Charter. Calling it as Prophet Muhammad’s signature achievement, he told the paper that the Madinah Charter was an example of Islam’s position on religious existence put into practice.

“The Prophet has signed the most important Islamic constitutional document, which is the Madinah Charter, which preserved religious and civil rights, as well as provided for Jews and others to live within Madinah in dignity as part of the ummah (community),” he said.

Sheikh Al-Issa said: “The neighbour of the prophet was a Jew, whom he visited and accepted his hospitality, and considered all the food of the Jews permissible for Muslims, permitted marriage to them, and built a family from a Jewish mother, and the Jewish community lived with Muslims in Madinah in peace.”

Highlighting the sharp shift in the Saudi policy towards Israel, Sheikh Al-Issa compared the Muslim Brotherhood to Al-Qaeda and Daesh (ISIS) in a Ramadan programme on MBC. He said the Brotherhood ideology was the gateway drug leading students to join Al-Qaeda, Daesh, Hamas and other terrorist organizations, who hunt down and punish Muslims deemed insufficiently subservient.

In his op-ed article in Arab News, Ronald S. Lauder, president of the World Jewish Congress, says: “A revolution is taking place in the Arab world that is quietly moving the Middle East’s tectonic plates in ways no one ever thought possible. The old broadside attacks against Israelis by almost all Arab countries have quietly dissipated and the evidence is as clear as the nightly television entertainment shows that people are watching.”

Lauder, who accompanied Sheikh Al-Issa on his groundbreaking visit to Auschwitz, says, it’s amazing that a TV show (Um Haroun) has led to a constructive dialogue and bridge-building.

Lauder concluded his article by saying that the most encouraging aspect of the silent revolution taking place in the Middle East is that it’s coming out of the highest political levels as well, with the Saudi monarchy that holds tremendous sway across the Muslim world as the custodian of the two holiest sites in Islam.

Commentator Seraj Assi writing in Haaretz says King Abdulaziz Ibn Saud, founder of Saudi Arabia, must be turning in his grave on seeing this public flirtation between Israel and Saudi Arabia that has sent waves of jubilation across the Jewish state.

Assi says: “In what resembles a classic display of an unholy alliance, the two countries look as if they had buried their hatchet and old rivalries under the Iranian rug. What once seemed an eternal enmity of biblical dimensions is now celebrated as the beginning of a wonderful partnership.”

Saudi Arabia for long portrayed it as the custodian of Islam and champion of Arab unity and the Palestinian cause. However, the common enemy Iran has forced it to abandon this narrative and join hands with Israel.

https://www.brusselstimes.com/opinion/125907/has-saudi-arabia-become-ideal-state-for-israel/


saudis are very old freind of pakistan .
 
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Need to wait death of king Salman and all hell will break loose in KSA in a war for throne.

MBS already runs the kingdom. His father (Salman) is ill, and only stands as a figure head now. All dealings, local and foreign are planned and executed by MBS now.
 
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saudis are very old freind of pakistan .

Old Saudis were friends of pakistan... The new generation is not... The new generation are anti-Muslim so-called Ummah concept and now only worship $$$$...

Ummah concept died along time ago... Now they are just going public about that concept...
 
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These petrol pump states will surely alliance with India in destruction tactics over Pakistan. Pakistanis will have to form alliance with Iran, Turkey and Malaysia to counter GCC Arab traitorous ways for Pakistani views of world.
It is better to understand these B******'s Arabs than repent later on our Muslim ummah views on Palestine to Kashmir.

Note : Isreal and u.a.e. formalized relations and hence Zionist agenda will be to bring further divide between Pakistan and Arabs oil states in which Pakistan wil have to form it's own group counter.
These Arabs will NEVER fight Isreal.
 
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We are not anti israel. We just want to keep a distance from the mess. Also we support creation of Palatine. Besdies this we have no bone to pick with israel unless they pick a fight first.
 
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MBS already runs the kingdom. His father (Salman) is ill, and only stands as a figure head now. All dealings, local and foreign are planned and executed by MBS now.
.....only just.
 
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Now to add to the list...UAE has resumed ties with Israel....Implying reliance on Muslim countries by Pakistan is no more a preposition. India will be inducted in OIC soon....

Time to form a parallel block....
 
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muslim block was formed mostly to fight against israel .now most important muslim countries are signing friendship accords with israel , it seems muslim world is going to be divided on question of israel .
 
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I remember when I use to expose saudi regime and the rest of these scoundrel sheikhdoms, there would be those morons who would attack me in defense of their saudi, qatari, bahraini, kuwaiti and emirati masters. I had warned that these sheikhdoms are zionist client states. But no, saudis could do no wrong, since money was flowing from them.

For years I have stated that Pakistani Muslims need to unite as one nation. That they need to establish a proper adherence to understanding the Holy Qur'an and the Sunnah. That we can only achieve unity through Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam. I pointed at the absurd Pakistani obsession with bollywood and hollywood. That it is poisoning the minds, the traditions and the culture of Pakistani society. Today we have either liberal yuppies who parade around as enlightened, modern Muslims. Or we have Jahil Mullah mentality idiots who think they know Islam better than the rest of us. Then we have the Nationalist Zealots who believe Pakistan before Islam.

All three types are mindless buffoons, desperate fools living in their deluded fantasy world. They shamelessly flirt with developing relations with israel, the same israel that was created on the claim that "God gave us this land!" These Zionists hide the fact why Jews were banished from the Holy Land in the first place. Zionists claims to israel's right to exist as a legitimate state, are debunked and destroyed by the fact that Jews were expelled from the covenant of God with Abraham, when they murdered Prophets of God, when they changed the word of God, when they cursed and vilified the Blessed Virgin Mary and when they were the architects of the attempted (yet failed) crucifixion of Jesus the Son of Blessed Virgin Mary and the True Messiah.

Today those buffoons who flirt with the idea of Pakistan recognizing the murderer, fascist, Kafir State of Israel. They ought to pack their bags and migrate to Israel. For anyone who calls himself Muslim, knows that is israel is an illegal and illegitimate state. And those Muslim States that have recognized israel, better be ready for an awesome destruction that will come from Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah. Turkey, Egypt, Emirates, Jordan and Saudi regime ... remember the Nation of Aad and their destruction, remember Pharaoh and his Egypt's destruction, remember the destruction of the Holy State of Israel by Babylon and Rome.

Fools who think they know, do not know anything but their self-destructive vanity and ego. Islam doesn't belong to you, rather you belong to Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah. And when you betray Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah, your destruction would be worse than that of Egypt, Israel, Aad. Your destruction shall be worse than the Floods of Noah.

I remember growing up where my Naani would ingrain in me, "Pakistan Ka Matlab Kya, La ilaha illallah Muhammad ur Rasoolallah." Time for you oh Pakistanis to wake up!!
 
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King Faisal's quote from one of the speeches: "Even if all the Arabs agree to accept the existence of Israel and divide Palestine, we will never join them."
 
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There is no need for conflict
Pakistan should focus on development of economy

However since there is no law an order the economy cannot develop
 
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Relations between countries are never 2+2=4. Its always complicated, with grey areas.
 
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Today news in pakistan was only to impress or woo pakistanis into thinking that saudi is nit going to accept unless just settlement for palestine. It is fake news. They are forcing Palestinians to take whatever the isreal is giving them as crumbs.
Saudi behaviour is quite sad. Muhammad bin salman is very agront and proud man. His fall would be grand and tragic whenever it happens.
Now pakistan was in a way forced to not form any aliance other then oic. In which india is invited.

Saudi Arabia is normalising relations with Israel
Monday, 10 August 2020

99.jpg

A drama series telecast on the Saudi-controlled MBC during the holy month of Ramadan is being seen as a clear signal from Saudi Arabia about its growing ties with Israel.

The TV series, ‘Umm Haroun’ (mother of Aaron), begins with a long monologue in Hebrew, in which a Jewish character says “we are the Gulf Jews who were born in the Gulf lands.”

Although Saudi-Israeli, behind-the-scene parleys, have been an open secret for long, since Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, popularly known as MbS, took over as the de facto ruler the warming of ties between two bitter enemies of Iran has become quite obvious.

The first clear sign of rapprochement came when in 2018 in an interview to the US magazine The Atlantic, MbS said that Israelis are entitled to live peacefully on their own land, a complete U-turn from the stated Saudi policy that normalisation of relations hinges on an Israeli withdrawal from lands captured in the 1967 Middle East war – territory Palestinians seek for a future state.

Although the drama series has sparked sharp criticism among the Arabs, especially Palestinians, who still see Israel as the real enemy of Arabs and Muslims, political analysts say both the states are following the badge the enemy of my enemy is my friend as both see Iran as a real threat to them.

Writing in Haaretz, commentator Zvi Bar’el says Saudi Arabia has emerged as Israel’s ‘dream state’. He says Israel has no better ally than Saudi Arabia. It fights Hezbollah and overthrew the Lebanese prime minister who had lived in peace with that organization for a year. There is no other country in the world, including the United States, that acts with such resolve against Iran. Saudi Arabia even went to war in Yemen, not for the Yemenis, who as far as Riyadh is concerned could die of starvation, but to block Iran’s influence.

Bar’el further says it seems as if Saudi Arabia would be happy to have Israel join the “Sunni axis”. He says to be part of this new alliance, Israel may have to make some concession and does not see any harm in reviving the Saudi peace initiative, which calls for Arab normalisation with Israel in return for withdrawing from the occupied Palestinian territories.

However, many Middle East experts don’t expect Saudis to push the Israelis on the Palestinian issue as their priorities have changed.

This view is in consonance with the theme of drama Exit 7, also telecast during Ramadan, which shows that Saudis are abandoning the Palestinian cause as one character played by Saudi actor Rashid Al Shamrani says he would happily do business with Israelis and argues that Palestinians are the real enemy for “insulting” Saudi Arabia “day and night.”

However, the biggest indication came when Saudi newspaper Arab News published a long interview of Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdul Karim Al-Issa, secretary-general of the Muslim World League, a leading religious Muslim nongovernmental organization based in Makkah.

Quoting the Quran and hadith (sayings of Prophet Muhammad), Sheikh Al-Issa said: “It is permissible to engage in normal business and friendly relations with members of other faiths, including Jews, as was the case in the Prophet Muhammad’s time.”

Further endorsing relations with Jews, he said: “With our Jewish brothers, we concluded agreements and mutual cooperation, and we love them and respect them greatly, far from the problems of politics, as our principle is not to interfere in politics.”

Speaking on the alliance with the Jewish state, Sheikh Al-Issa quoted the famous Madinah Charter. Calling it as Prophet Muhammad’s signature achievement, he told the paper that the Madinah Charter was an example of Islam’s position on religious existence put into practice.

“The Prophet has signed the most important Islamic constitutional document, which is the Madinah Charter, which preserved religious and civil rights, as well as provided for Jews and others to live within Madinah in dignity as part of the ummah (community),” he said.

Sheikh Al-Issa said: “The neighbour of the prophet was a Jew, whom he visited and accepted his hospitality, and considered all the food of the Jews permissible for Muslims, permitted marriage to them, and built a family from a Jewish mother, and the Jewish community lived with Muslims in Madinah in peace.”

Highlighting the sharp shift in the Saudi policy towards Israel, Sheikh Al-Issa compared the Muslim Brotherhood to Al-Qaeda and Daesh (ISIS) in a Ramadan programme on MBC. He said the Brotherhood ideology was the gateway drug leading students to join Al-Qaeda, Daesh, Hamas and other terrorist organizations, who hunt down and punish Muslims deemed insufficiently subservient.

In his op-ed article in Arab News, Ronald S. Lauder, president of the World Jewish Congress, says: “A revolution is taking place in the Arab world that is quietly moving the Middle East’s tectonic plates in ways no one ever thought possible. The old broadside attacks against Israelis by almost all Arab countries have quietly dissipated and the evidence is as clear as the nightly television entertainment shows that people are watching.”

Lauder, who accompanied Sheikh Al-Issa on his groundbreaking visit to Auschwitz, says, it’s amazing that a TV show (Um Haroun) has led to a constructive dialogue and bridge-building.

Lauder concluded his article by saying that the most encouraging aspect of the silent revolution taking place in the Middle East is that it’s coming out of the highest political levels as well, with the Saudi monarchy that holds tremendous sway across the Muslim world as the custodian of the two holiest sites in Islam.

Commentator Seraj Assi writing in Haaretz says King Abdulaziz Ibn Saud, founder of Saudi Arabia, must be turning in his grave on seeing this public flirtation between Israel and Saudi Arabia that has sent waves of jubilation across the Jewish state.

Assi says: “In what resembles a classic display of an unholy alliance, the two countries look as if they had buried their hatchet and old rivalries under the Iranian rug. What once seemed an eternal enmity of biblical dimensions is now celebrated as the beginning of a wonderful partnership.”

Saudi Arabia for long portrayed it as the custodian of Islam and champion of Arab unity and the Palestinian cause. However, the common enemy Iran has forced it to abandon this narrative and join hands with Israel.

https://www.brusselstimes.com/opinion/125907/has-saudi-arabia-become-ideal-state-for-israel/


 
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We are not anti israel. We just want to keep a distance from the mess. Also we support creation of Palatine. Besdies this we have no bone to pick with israel unless they pick a fight first.
There is a huge disconnect between Arab people and Arab ruling elite. Royal orders pass to the masses....it's just informing the nation, what King's ambition. Now is the age of violent splinter groups and small clans who follow their own ideas and interpretation of any religion they follow. Here is a bigger issue in case of Isreal existence. Islam and Palestinian .... a well known late Islamic Scholar (Dr Israr Ahmed) who lost his lectures on PTV in Zia era , because in his few lectures he gave detail interpretation of this verse ......

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Well orthodox jews believe, Israel will be a freed , when sacred signs will appeared without violence. Even if the countries officially accept Isreal, what is the solution of muslims who recite and interpret Quranic verses daily and believe them .....
 
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