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Pakistan, US in ‘secret talks’

Full of lies.... Our foreign Office is PURE PRO AMERICAN and thats every buddy knew. 99.9% foreign offcer holder childern working and living in the United States. Currently, Pakistan Army show not only middle finger to the US but also give Burj Khalifa in their ***!
 
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Pakistan, US in ‘secret talks’
By Kamran Yousaf
Published: January 12, 2018
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FO spokesperson confirms Islamabad and Washington continue to communicate with each other. PHOTO: FILE

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ISLAMABAD: Far from the public posturing and rhetoric, Pakistan and the United States are thought to be holding ‘secret talks’ in a desperate attempt to avoid a complete rupture in their fragile relations.

Officials familiar with the development said some Trump administration’s officials visited Islamabad this week and held talks with their Pakistani interlocutors, in what appears to be a last ditch effort to find a common ground in the fight against terrorism.

A Pakistani delegation is also expected to travel to Washington in coming days as part of the ongoing behind the scene diplomatic maneuvers, added the officials.




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They, however, refused to divulge further details including the composition of the US delegation and the outcome of discussions. Some sources indicated that a high ranking American intelligence official recently visited Islamabad. But the Foreign Office and US Embassy in Islamabad said they were not aware of any such visit.

“These are highly sensitive matters related to our national security and hence cannot be discussed publically at the moment,” said one official with the direct knowledge of the back channel talks.

At his weekly briefing, Foreign Office Spokesperson Dr Muhammad Faisal confirmed that Pakistan and the US continued to communicate with each other on various issues of mutual interest at different levels.

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“Since, it is being done outside media glare, I cannot share further details with you,” Faisal replied when asked to share details of such contacts.

The back channel efforts came just days after the US suspended the entire security assistance to Pakistan in wake of President Donald Trump’s New Year tweet in which he accused Islamabad of ‘lies and deceit’.

Washington has stepped up pressure on Islamabad to do more in the fight against terrorism. Reports suggest that Pakistan was given ‘specific targets’ to act on within the stipulated time frame. Pakistan, however, is adamant that it has done enough in the fight against terrorism and that there are no organized presence of any militant outfit.

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“On the question of the presence of Taliban leadership in Pakistan, we completely deny this allegation,” Faisal insisted.

However, he said Pakistan had repeatedly said that it would take action on the basis of any actionable intelligence and information provided to us.

He said on the basis of intelligence shared with the US, Pakistan had been able to secure the region and decimate al-Qaeda.

“This has been acknowledged by the US leadership. We have conveyed to the US that actionable intelligence sharing can help in advancing the shared goal of defeating terrorism from the region,” he added.

When his attention was drawn towards the recent statement by Defence Minsiter Khurrum Dastagir that Pakistan could block key supply lines for the US forces in response to the Trump administration’s hard line approach, the spokesperson said both sides ‘understand the importance of the lines of communication.’

Secret meetings in Pakistan expose obstacles to Afghan peace talks

“Pakistan has been facilitating the US-led mission in Afghanistan through its ground and air lines of communication for the last sixteen years. Pakistan’s support to the US has been critical in dealing with the challenges of terrorism in the region,” he said, but stopped short of saying that Pakistan was contemplating to withdraw that facility.

He also clarified the remarks of Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif that US was no more an ally of Pakistan. “Remarks of the foreign minister need to be seen in the proper perspective. The foreign minister was expressing his frustration at the unwarranted US accusations against Pakistan and the unilateral decision to suspend the security assistance, despite Pakistan’s extra-ordinary sacrifices and contribution in the war against terrorism,” Faisal explained.

“The provocative statements by the US leadership and Pakistan’s response has been measured, as we believe that continued Pak-US cooperation is important for the stability of the region, especially Afghanistan,” he stressed.

Meanwhile, the foreign office spokesperson expressed concerns over the possible implications of India’s move to launch 31 satellites including earth observation spacecraft Cartosat this week.

“All space technologies, including earth observation satellites, are inherently dual use and can be employed for both civilian and military purposes,” Faisal explained.

He said all states had a legitimate right to pursue peaceful uses of space technologies. “However, given the dual-use nature of such technologies, it is essential that such pursuits are not directed towards a buildup of destabilizing military capabilities, which can negatively impact the regional strategic stability,” he added.
Pakistan deep state should be cautious. We cant afford another war for America.Negotiators must be monitor keenly sp their asset after negotiation .It history that our bureaucracy could easily be bribed . It has always worked their foreign masters.
 
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F IMF and world bank they spend they want it back SO WHAT? Do they raise a war on us if we didn’t give them back? Or you come up with story of Dr Shahid Masood that if we didn’t give them back their money they demand to withdraw from N.nukes?
Put away UK they still out of picture we talking now. If SA need American they need us too it’s a give and take relationship between two countries.

Naah, you don't want to be next north Korea, right?

I can see that drone attacks around border area inside the pakistan, action against hafeez Saeed.

Now, I could not see that give and take. This happens between both equal powers.

Well by the way, best of luck.
 
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Quiet apology once again till the next public outburst by US on Pakistan. Weak leadership.

Why doesn't Pakistan ask for a public apology from Trump?
 
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These "secret negotiations" has done nothing but harm to Pakistan in longer run. We have long history of libturbs both in civil and military selling off our national interests for peanuts to get personal gains. Most of these libturds got financial interests and family settled in west (including Musharraf). They can never work for the interests of Pakistan even if they want to due to the liabilities they carry. Take our current ambassador to America for example. The d!ckhead preferred to be demoted in FO so he can become ambassador to US.

No more behind the scene negotiations. 220 million Pakistanis needs to know what is going on.
 
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Trump is burning a lot and not just American image, potentials and relationship. This is the latest Time Magazine's cover for Trump completing 1 year in the office.

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I will just start from your economy.
1. Do you know to which country and alliance, pakistan exports most?
2. IMF and world Bank, pakistan wants loan but who actually real player in both organisations.
3. Aid .... Pakistan gets most Aid from Saudi, England and US. Till now, china given only loans
.. list can go on... But I don't wanna to go with all list... Thanks. I knew this and I m 200 % confident on my words.
Indians can only think like bunynias.
 
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I have told many times.
US needs help from Pakistan in Afghanistan only but pakistan needs US help in almost everywhere.

So again pakistan will engage with back door diplomacy and the things get normal in pakistan. Again US will say, do more... Story will continue.....
Yes, but Afghanistan is a huuuuge thorn in america's butt. They need it sorted out ASAP. Pak is used to isolation and doesnt need USA anymore since they have realized that USA will never support Pakistan where Indian interests are not aligned. So, right now USA needs Pak more than Pak needing USA. Basically, Pak has realized what most have suspected for a long time,that USA will abandon them when it suits them.
 
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Following are the demands from Pakistan

1) Kick India out of Afghanistan and give primary responsibility of Afghanistan to Pakistan
2) Nuke deal and NSG membership for Pakistan
3) Stop all military sales to India
4) Support Pakistan's position on Kashmir i.e forced India to let Kashmir merge with Pakistan
5) Declare India as a state sponsoring terrorism
6) Recognize Pakistan as the Major power of South Asia

How many of these demands would US accept?
 
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Pakistan deep state should be cautious. We cant afford another war for America.Negotiators must be monitor keenly sp their asset after negotiation .It history that our bureaucracy could easily be bribed . It has always worked their foreign masters.

Agreed, Its time Pakistan stands firmly and say no more, enough bloodshed has been split, Pakistan has done its part clearing all the terrorists dens on the border with Afghanistan, now Its Nato and Afghanistan turn they should start commencing clearing operations on their side of the border.
 
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