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Pakistan, US agree on new Afghan set-up - India retreating?

One reason for USA to pack up from Afghanistan is that non of the Afghans neighbor want US presence in the region except for India (who isn't a neighbor).

Iran helped USA in Iraq to some extended but will never in Afghanistan.
Why would China accept a permanent base of US in Afghanistan spying on it and controlling Central Asian Oil and same goes for Russia.

Pakistan got pissed off when US allowed a free hand to Indian in Afghanistan to go and crush Pakistan’s interest in the region. US started seeing and thinking from Indian eye's and minds.

In the last effort even US and India tried to put a Indian friendly goverment in Islamabad but now US has realized that its Pak Army which is the controlling force.

The last card PPPP can use against Army is to involve Army into BB's murder but might not use it without the backing of US .

if you want your country to live in peace, first stop giving your blind support to your army, which keep on working on every day and night to keep the pakistanis misguided...

you people definitely wont learn lesson from the US's experience with the taliban. when taliban was formed no one had any clue that it would turn one day against those creators...still pakistan want to bring taliban monsters to afghan's helm.. can anyone guarantee me that the same taliban whom your army is patronising will not turn against you one day?if it turns, whom do you ask for help?

remember pakistan will be the first casualty, if in future those monsters gone mad...
 
:usflag: + :pakistan: == Win Win (example: the 70s and 80s)
:usflag: + India == Lose Lose
:pakistan: + :usflag: + India == give and take
 
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if you want your country to live in peace, first stop giving your blind support to your army, which keep on working on every day and night to keep the pakistanis misguided...

you people definitely wont learn lesson from the US's experience with the taliban. when taliban was formed no one had any clue that it would turn one day against those creators...still pakistan want to bring taliban monsters to afghan's helm.. can anyone guarantee me that the same taliban whom your army is patronising will not turn against you one day?if it turns, whom do you ask for help?

remember pakistan will be the first casualty, if in future those monsters gone mad...
Ok sir. we will not believe our army anymore....

Thanks for the advise. We'll turn to you. You are the only one we should believe.

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maybe you are right! ..its nonsense to get your people killed when its not your war. What ever development work India did has been wasted. now they will blow all the infrastructure they built.

Good time ..good sense prevailed. Phate mein tang adana is foolishness.

India should focus on development and ensuring our borders are safe.

Any link about infrstructure Inmdia has built in Afghanistan.

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The Pioneer > Online Edition : >> The AfPak endgame is nigh

haha.. this article is all about chess but in terms of countries. this following paragraph portrays us as the biggest evil existin on this planet
Jihadi wing of PA.....:rofl:

Masterfully executed plan of bombing by Gen Kiyani and Co. :rofl: :rofl:

Baradar a moderate and was negotiating with Karzai. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Its a good news if true, it further prooves that we were there to help Afghanistan nothing else. Its a good move we can not risk indian citizen's life. The pressure will be on other side that is why they will not accept victory. I would like to see peace! prevailing in that region specially in pakistan after when india will halt its mission.
Soon we will see pakistanis blamming USA for all its problems when India will leave AF.
Good move India should fast track all pending assignment and leave ASAP.

Pakistan has never, will never blame anyone, even now when we find foriegners in pakistan we do not blame the countries they come from, this is unlike India and we are unlike India, did not go crying to us for fighting in Kashmir , did not go crying to us for bangladesh etc etc.
 
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What a cheap rant...you must be from pre independence Ira. get some life.
How many villages in Pakistan are living on one kidney?
Where are world's biggest the opium trade roots and supply centres? Who were those Pakistan based taliban doing extortion & beheading minorities?
Fake marriages!!! or marriage since when Pakistani grand strategic depth ambition has to worry about people's personal misfortunes?



Third party !!! can you suggest who were those willing third parties.



How many Independent certified technical authorities lol you know are doing inspection for war zone dispensaries and quickly built roads etc etc...
was USA giving contract to Pakistani companies?
Are you expecting India to build Hotel le meridien there, we are investing money on priority to retain basic infrastructure not monuments.



And you will be chairman of that independent body.

''''na kuch karna, na karan dena, bera garak kar dita mulk da''. wtf

what a statement, India has been the big suporter of Russian invation of Afghanistan and Ruskies killed 2.5 million Afghans.

Now all of a sudden India want to play a friends to poor Afghans.


Bahut buri baat hay, jab tumharey hath Afghan khjoon say rangey hein.

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sir you are senior to me and have lot of experiences. . . do you really think india want these countries help to handle Pakistan? i spend lot of time in the forum all pak members says china will send its navy if any war between India and Pakistan. does any indian members says we will get something from us or russia

U.R. getting continues help in the nuclear deal, in brahmos devolopement, in many other fields all the time.

From all arround the globe and yet claim u get nothing, what a clever ploy.
 
Jihadi wing of PA.....:rofl:

Masterfully executed plan of bombing by Gen Kiyani and Co. :rofl: :rofl:

Baradar a moderate and was negotiating with Karzai. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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now see this, Alice in Wonder land, seems people are finding it hard to find that Pakistan is screwing them badly :lol:

This one is trying to explain, Why Bradar is 'Moderate taliban'

& The Quetta Shura has used the ISI, its loyal and steadfast patron, to take out its trash. Those few mullahs suspected of being amenable to discussions with the infidel enemy and thus ideologically impure have now been removed from the jihad



Down the AfPak Rabbit Hole

The village of Marjah is a meaningless strategic backwater. So why are the Pentagon and the press telling us the battle there was a huge victory?

The release of Tim Burton's new blockbuster movie, Alice in Wonderland, is days away. The timing could not be more appropriate. Lewis Carroll's ironically opium-inspired tale of a rational person caught up inside a mad world with its own bizarre but consistent internal (il)logic has now surpassed Vietnam as the best paradigm to understand the war in Afghanistan.

The war in Afghanistan, as we have written here and in Military Review (pdf), is indeed a near replication of the Vietnam War, including the assault on the strategically meaningless village of Marjah, which is itself a perfect re-enactment of Operation Meade River in 1968. But the callous cynicism of this war, which we described here in early December, and the mainstream media's brainless reporting on it, have descended past these sane parallels. We have now gone down the rabbit hole.

Two months ago, the collection of mud-brick hovels known as Marjah might have been mistaken for a flyspeck on maps of Afghanistan. Today the media has nearly doubled its population from less than 50,000 to 80,000 -- the entire population of Nad Ali district, of which Nad Ali is the largest town, is approximately 99,000 -- and portrays the offensive there as the equivalent of the Normandy invasion, and the beginning of the end for the Taliban. In fact, however, the entire district of Nad Ali, which contains Marjah, represents about 2 percent of Regional Command (RC) South, the U.S. military's operational area that encompasses Helmand, Kandahar, Uruzgan, Zabul, Nimruz, and Daikundi provinces. RC South by itself is larger than all of South Vietnam, and the Taliban controls virtually all of it. This appears to have occurred to no one in the media.

Nor have any noted that taking this nearly worthless postage stamp of real estate has tied down about half of all the real combat power and aviation assets of the international coalition in Afghanistan for a quarter of a year. The possibility that wasting massive amounts of U.S. and British blood, treasure, and time just to establish an Afghan Potemkin village with a "government in a box" might be exactly what the Taliban wants the coalition to do has apparently not occurred to either the press or to the generals who designed this operation.

In reality, this battle -- the largest in Afghanistan since 2001 -- is essentially a giant public affairs exercise, designed to shore up dwindling domestic support for the war by creating an illusion of progress. In reporting it, the media has gulped down the whole bottle of "drink me" and shrunk to journalistic insignificance. In South Vietnam, an operational area smaller than RC South, the United States and its allies had over 2 million men under arms, including more than half a million Americans, the million-man Army of the Republic of Vietnam (ARVN), 75,000 coalition troops, the Vietnamese Regional Forces and Popular Forces (known as "Ruff-Puffs"), the South Vietnamese police, the Civilian Irregular Defense Groups (CIDG) and other militias -- and lost.

Yet the media is breathlessly regurgitating Pentagon pronouncements that we have "turned the corner" and "reversed the momentum" in Afghanistan with fewer than 45,000 men under arms in all of RC South (including the Afghan army and police) by fighting for a month to secure a single hamlet. Last year this would have been déjà vu of the "five o'clock follies" of the Vietnam War. Now it feels more like the Mad Hatter's Tea Party. "How can we have more success," Alice might ask, "when we haven't had any yet?"

So here we are in the AfPak Wonderland, complete with a Mad Hatter (the clueless and complacent media), Tweedledee and Tweedledum (the military, endlessly repeating itself and history), the White Rabbit (the State Department, scurrying to meetings and utterly irrelevant), the stoned Caterpillar (the CIA, obtuse, arrogant, and asking the wrong questions), the Dormouse (U.S. Embassy Kabul, who wakes up once in a while only to have his head stuffed in a teapot), the Cheshire Cat (President Obama, fading in and out of the picture, eloquent but puzzling), the Pack of Cards army (the Afghan National Army, self-explanatory), and their commander, the inane Queen of Hearts (Afghan President Hamid Karzai). (In Alice in Wonderland, however, the Dormouse is "suppressed" by the Queen of Hearts, not the White Rabbit or the Cheshire Cat, so the analogy is not quite perfect.)

For his part, as the Economist noted this week, Karzai has made fools of all the Western officials who sternly admonished him to begin a new era of transparent democracy, seizing control of the Electoral Complaints Commission to dismiss its independent members. Like the Queen of Hearts, Karzai has literally lost his marbles, according to our sources in the presidential palace. Or, as U.S. Ambassador Karl Eikenberry more diplomatically phrased it in his leaked cable, his behavior has become "erratic." He hasn't started shouting "off with their heads" yet, but the legitimacy thing is toast. Only the massive public relations exercise in Marjah kept Karzai's kleptocracy out of the media spotlight in February.

The military and political madness of the AfPak Wonderland has entered a new chapter of folly with the detention of a few Taliban mullahs in Pakistan, most notably Mullah Baradar, once the military strategist of the Quetta Shura, the primary Taliban leadership council headed by Mullah Omar. Like the Mock Turtle and the Gryphon in Alice in Wonderland, this has the Washington establishment dancing the whacked-out Lobster-Quadrille: Instant Afghanistan experts at the White House and pundits at august Beltway institutions like the Brookings Institution are absurdly calling the detentions a "sea change" in Pakistani behavior.

In fact, it is no such thing. Pakistan has not abandoned overnight its 50-year worship of the totem of "strategic depth," its cornerstone belief that it must control Afghanistan, or its marriage to the Taliban, and anyone who believes that is indulging in magical thinking. What has happened is, in fact, a purge by Taliban hard-liners of men perceived to be insufficiently reliable, either ethnically or politically, or both. It is well-known that there had been a schism in the Quetta Shura for months, with hard-liner and former Gitmo prisoner Mullah Zakir (aka Abdullah Ghulam Rasoul) coming out on top over Mullah Baradar. Baradar sheltered fellow Popalzai Hamid Karzai in 2001 and possibly saved his life after an errant U.S. bomb in Uruzgan province killed several men on the Special Forces team that was escorting him. Baradar later became a confidant of the president's brother, paid CIA informer Ahmed Wali Karzai, and met occasionally with the president himself in the tangled web of Afghan politics.

The core Ghilzai leadership of the Taliban had long suspected Baradar of being too willing to negotiate and too partial to his kinsmen in making field appointments. Indeed, this suspicion led to the creation of the Quetta Shura's Accountability Council in late 2009, whose job apparently included removing many of Baradar's excessively Durrani and Karlani appointments.

This explains why when Mullah Zakir, the hard-line military chief of the Quetta Shura along with Baradar, was detained near Peshawar two weeks after Baradar was detained, the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) - Pakistan's powerful military spy service -- released him immediately. Meanwhile, all of the other lesser figures currently in detention (including Abdul Kabir, aka Mullah Abdul Kahir Osmani, the RC East regional commander; Mullah Abdul Rauf Aliza, an Alizai Durrani, former Gitmo prisoner, and Taliban military chief for northern Afghanistan; and Mullah Ahmed Jan Akhundzada, former shadow governor of Uruzgan province and Ishaqzai Durrani) are known moderates and allies of Baradar.

In other words, the Quetta Shura has used the ISI, its loyal and steadfast patron, to take out its trash. Those few mullahs suspected of being amenable to discussions with the infidel enemy and thus ideologically impure have now been removed from the jihad. This is not cooperation against the Taliban by an allied state; it is collusion with the Taliban by an enemy state. Pakistan is in fact following its own perceived strategic interests, which do not coincide with those of the United States. Pakistan has masterfully plied the Western establishment with an LSD-laced "drink me" cocktail of its own, convincing everyone that it is a frail and fragile Humpty-Dumpty that must not be pushed too hard, lest the nuclear egg fall off the wall. This is nonsense. In fact, what is needed against Pakistan's military leaders is a lever more powerful than "strategic depth" to force them into compliance and make them stop sheltering al Qaeda, destabilizing Afghanistan, and killing hundreds of Americans by proxy.


Unfortunately, in this AfPak Wonderland, there does not appear to be any magic mushroom to get back to normal. Instead, Afghanistan and Pakistan policy is trapped in an endless loop in a mad policy world operating under its own consistent internal illogic. Unlike Alice, the handful of Afghan analysts in the United States who actually understand what is happening cannot wake up or break through the corporate media noise. Far worse, thousands of brave U.S. Marines and soldiers are caught up in this deadly political croquet game where IEDs, not hedgehogs, are the game balls. The Duchess's baby really has turned into a pig, and there seems to be no way out of this increasingly insane rabbit hole.

Down the AfPak Rabbit Hole | Foreign Policy

whereas the Stupid on the other hand don't knows that the active members of Shura are

  1. • Hafiz Abdul Majeed is the current leader of the Quetta Regional Military Shura. He served as the Taliban’s intelligence chief.
  2. • Mullah Mohammad Hassan Akhund was the governor of Kandahar and the Minister of Foreign Affairs during Taliban rule in Afghanistan.
  3. • Mullah Mohammad Hassan Rehmani is considered to be very close to Mullah Omar. Rehmani has been described as his "shadow." He was the governor of Kandahar province during the reign of the Taliban.
  4. • Mullah Abdul Qayum Zakir is the head of the Gerdi Jangal Regional Military Shura (Helmand and Nimroz provinces) and the Taliban's ‘surge’ commander in the South. Zakir is a former detainee of the Guantanamo Bay detention facility in Cuba who currently serves as the Taliban’s ‘surge commander’ in the Afghan South.
  5. • Amir Khan Muttaqi is the chief of the Information and Culture Committee.
  6. • Siraj Haqqani is the leader of the Miramshah Regional Military Shura and the commander of the Haqqani Network. He is also the Taliban’s regional governor of Paktika, Paktia, and Khost.
  7. • Mullah Mohammad Rasul was the governor of Nimroz province during the reign of the Taliban.
  8. • Abdulhai Mutma’in is the chief of the Finance Committee. His served as a minister during the Taliban regime.
  9. • Abdul Latif Mansur is the commander of the Abdul Latif Mansur Network in Paktika, Paktia, and Khost. He serves on the Miramshah Shura and was the former Minister of Agriculture for the Taliban regime. Mansur is thought to lead the Peshawar Regional Military Shura.
  10. • Mullah Abdur Razzaq Akhundzada is the former corps commander for northern Afghanistan. He also served as the Taliban regime’s Interior Minister.
  11. • Maulvi Hamdullah is the Taliban representative for the Gulf region. Hamdullah is considered to have been since 1994 one of Mullah Omar's most confidential aides. In addition, Hamdullah led the Finance Department in Kandahar during Taliban rule from 1994 until November 2001.
  12. • Maulvi Qudratullah Jamal runs an investigative committee that deals with complaints from Afghan citizens against local Taliban personnel. Jamal also operates as a liaison to the Taliban's global supporters. He served as the Taliban’s chief of propaganda from 2002-2005.
  13. • Maulvi Aminullah is the Taliban commander for Uruzgan province.
  14. • Mullah Jalil is the head of the Taliban's Interior Affairs Committee.
  15. • Qari Talha is the chief of Kabul operations for the Taliban.
  16. • Sheikh Abdul Mana Niyazic is the Taliban shadow governor for Herat province.

& the ones screwed are

  1. • Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar directed the Quetta Shura. Baradar was the Afghan Taliban's second in command and the group's operational commander, and was detained in Karachi sometime in January or February 2010.
  2. • Maulvi Abdul Kabir led the Peshawar Regional Military Council before he was captured by Pakistani intelligence in February 2010. He served as the Taliban's former shadow governor of the eastern Afghan province of Nangarhar, as well as the governor of Nangarhar during the Taliban’s reign.
  3. • Mullah Mir Mohammed served as the shadow governor in the northern province of Baghlan. He was detained in February 2010.
  4. • Mullah Abdul Salam served as the shadow governor in the northern province of Kunduz. He was detained in February 2010.
  5. • Mullah Dadullah Akhund was the Taliban’s top military commander in the South. He was killed in May 2007 by British special forces in Helmand province.
  6. • Akhtar Mohammad Osmani was a member of the Quetta Shura and was the Taliban's chief of military operations in the provinces of Uruzgan, Nimroz, Kandahar, Farah, Herat, and Helmand, as well as a top aide to Mullah Omar. He also personally vouched for the safety of Osama bin Laden and Mullah Omar. He was killed by Coalition forces while traveling near the Pakistani border in December 2006.
  7. • Mullah Obaidullah Akhund was the Taliban Defense Minister during the reign of the Taliban from 1996 until the US toppled the government in the fall of 2001. He was close to Mullah Omar. His status is uncertain; he has been reported to have been arrested and released several times by Pakistani security forces. He was last reported in Pakistani custody in February 2008.
  8. • Mullah Mansur Dadullah Akhund, who is also known as Mullah Bakht Mohammed, replaced his brother Mullah Dadullah Akhund as the top commander in the South during the summer of 2007. His status is uncertain; he was last reported to have been arrested by Pakistani security forces in January 2008 but is thought to have been exchanged as part of a hostage deal.
  9. • Anwarul Haq Mujahid was a member of the Peshawar Regional Military Shura and the commander of the Tora Bora Military Front, which is based in Nangarhar province. He was detained in Peshawar in June 2009. Mujahid is the son of Maulvi Mohammed Yunis Khalis, a senior mujahedeen leader who was instrumental in welcoming Osama bin Laden into Afghanistan after he was ejected from the Sudan in 1996.
  10. • Mullah Ustad Mohammed Yasir was the chief of the Recruitment Committee and a Taliban spokesman before he was arrested in Peshawar in January 2009.
  11. • Mullah Younis, who is also known as Akhunzada Popalzai, was a former shadow governor of Zabul. He served as a police chief in Kabul during Taliban rule. He was captured in Karachi in February 2010.


i.e total of 11 are screwed out of 16 & still he thinks that The Quetta Shura has used the ISI, its loyal and steadfast patron, to take out its trash.

Quetta Shura is literally liquidated
 
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i fear the coches might not exchange their teams with them hijacking ours and we hijacking theres and again we might not engage in a brutal rugby match ..i hope not..!
and theres always a chance that the refry might again turn a blind eye on our call ..!
 
Nothing wrong with Indian plans to work for its interests as much as any other country does so.

The only objection i had was on denial of Indians uptill now as you were hiding behind rehtoric of helping the Afghans and were in denial that If India was any strategic interest.

China is not doing anything against India in Pakistan. :)

Besides we are immediat neighbours unlike India is a third country not having any border with Afghanistan

Dont think having a border with a country gives anyone any special privilages or rights. Its an open season for diplomacy across the world.
 
Calm down guys, Its not official yet and champaign is already out. Just relax and wait for the game to unfold. Let us see what Indian media implies by scaling down and what is that the GoI will do. We are getting contradictory signals and the official stance of India is not clear.

Lets not get ahead of ourselves and speculate. India may well pack its bags and quit but you never know ...
 
now see this, Alice in Wonder land, seems people are finding it hard to find that Pakistan is screwing them badly :lol:

This one is trying to explain, Why Bradar is 'Moderate taliban'

& The Quetta Shura has used the ISI, its loyal and steadfast patron, to take out its trash. Those few mullahs suspected of being amenable to discussions with the infidel enemy and thus ideologically impure have now been removed from the jihad





whereas the Stupid on the other hand don't knows that the active members of Shura are

  1. • Hafiz Abdul Majeed is the current leader of the Quetta Regional Military Shura. He served as the Taliban’s intelligence chief.
  2. • Mullah Mohammad Hassan Akhund was the governor of Kandahar and the Minister of Foreign Affairs during Taliban rule in Afghanistan.
  3. • Mullah Mohammad Hassan Rehmani is considered to be very close to Mullah Omar. Rehmani has been described as his "shadow." He was the governor of Kandahar province during the reign of the Taliban.
  4. • Mullah Abdul Qayum Zakir is the head of the Gerdi Jangal Regional Military Shura (Helmand and Nimroz provinces) and the Taliban's ‘surge’ commander in the South. Zakir is a former detainee of the Guantanamo Bay detention facility in Cuba who currently serves as the Taliban’s ‘surge commander’ in the Afghan South.
  5. • Amir Khan Muttaqi is the chief of the Information and Culture Committee.
  6. • Siraj Haqqani is the leader of the Miramshah Regional Military Shura and the commander of the Haqqani Network. He is also the Taliban’s regional governor of Paktika, Paktia, and Khost.
  7. • Mullah Mohammad Rasul was the governor of Nimroz province during the reign of the Taliban.
  8. • Abdulhai Mutma’in is the chief of the Finance Committee. His served as a minister during the Taliban regime.
  9. • Abdul Latif Mansur is the commander of the Abdul Latif Mansur Network in Paktika, Paktia, and Khost. He serves on the Miramshah Shura and was the former Minister of Agriculture for the Taliban regime. Mansur is thought to lead the Peshawar Regional Military Shura.
  10. • Mullah Abdur Razzaq Akhundzada is the former corps commander for northern Afghanistan. He also served as the Taliban regime’s Interior Minister.
  11. • Maulvi Hamdullah is the Taliban representative for the Gulf region. Hamdullah is considered to have been since 1994 one of Mullah Omar's most confidential aides. In addition, Hamdullah led the Finance Department in Kandahar during Taliban rule from 1994 until November 2001.
  12. • Maulvi Qudratullah Jamal runs an investigative committee that deals with complaints from Afghan citizens against local Taliban personnel. Jamal also operates as a liaison to the Taliban's global supporters. He served as the Taliban’s chief of propaganda from 2002-2005.
  13. • Maulvi Aminullah is the Taliban commander for Uruzgan province.
  14. • Mullah Jalil is the head of the Taliban's Interior Affairs Committee.
  15. • Qari Talha is the chief of Kabul operations for the Taliban.
  16. • Sheikh Abdul Mana Niyazic is the Taliban shadow governor for Herat province.

& the ones screwed are

  1. • Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar directed the Quetta Shura. Baradar was the Afghan Taliban's second in command and the group's operational commander, and was detained in Karachi sometime in January or February 2010.
  2. • Maulvi Abdul Kabir led the Peshawar Regional Military Council before he was captured by Pakistani intelligence in February 2010. He served as the Taliban's former shadow governor of the eastern Afghan province of Nangarhar, as well as the governor of Nangarhar during the Taliban’s reign.
  3. • Mullah Mir Mohammed served as the shadow governor in the northern province of Baghlan. He was detained in February 2010.
  4. • Mullah Abdul Salam served as the shadow governor in the northern province of Kunduz. He was detained in February 2010.
  5. • Mullah Dadullah Akhund was the Taliban’s top military commander in the South. He was killed in May 2007 by British special forces in Helmand province.
  6. • Akhtar Mohammad Osmani was a member of the Quetta Shura and was the Taliban's chief of military operations in the provinces of Uruzgan, Nimroz, Kandahar, Farah, Herat, and Helmand, as well as a top aide to Mullah Omar. He also personally vouched for the safety of Osama bin Laden and Mullah Omar. He was killed by Coalition forces while traveling near the Pakistani border in December 2006.
  7. • Mullah Obaidullah Akhund was the Taliban Defense Minister during the reign of the Taliban from 1996 until the US toppled the government in the fall of 2001. He was close to Mullah Omar. His status is uncertain; he has been reported to have been arrested and released several times by Pakistani security forces. He was last reported in Pakistani custody in February 2008.
  8. • Mullah Mansur Dadullah Akhund, who is also known as Mullah Bakht Mohammed, replaced his brother Mullah Dadullah Akhund as the top commander in the South during the summer of 2007. His status is uncertain; he was last reported to have been arrested by Pakistani security forces in January 2008 but is thought to have been exchanged as part of a hostage deal.
  9. • Anwarul Haq Mujahid was a member of the Peshawar Regional Military Shura and the commander of the Tora Bora Military Front, which is based in Nangarhar province. He was detained in Peshawar in June 2009. Mujahid is the son of Maulvi Mohammed Yunis Khalis, a senior mujahedeen leader who was instrumental in welcoming Osama bin Laden into Afghanistan after he was ejected from the Sudan in 1996.
  10. • Mullah Ustad Mohammed Yasir was the chief of the Recruitment Committee and a Taliban spokesman before he was arrested in Peshawar in January 2009.
  11. • Mullah Younis, who is also known as Akhunzada Popalzai, was a former shadow governor of Zabul. He served as a police chief in Kabul during Taliban rule. He was captured in Karachi in February 2010.


i.e total of 11 are screwed out of 16 & still he thinks that The Quetta Shura has used the ISI, its loyal and steadfast patron, to take out its trash.

Quetta Shura is literally liquidated
HAHAHAH........This goes for bigger ROFL :ROFL:


Anyway.....ISI ROCKS.......even if you see it from writer point of view......


And i can bet that even if we capture OBL they'll say he is a moderate one, we want the extremist one.... :lol:
 
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Dont think having a border with a country gives anyone any special privilages or rights. Its an open season for diplomacy across the world.

yes , but certinly the good ol indian days are coming to an end in the afghan arena . Now Iran is the only nation left through which India might carry on its ops in afghanistan but yet again , highly unlikely ..:agree:
 

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