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Pakistan, US agree on new Afghan set-up - India retreating?

You havent seen what the taliban really is with your own eyes, it is difficult to describe these special creatures by word. Considering Mullah Dadullah, Turabi and others, he might be moderate.
I think when we said Good taliban and bad taliban that also meant "moderate and most extreme". But our statement became a joke for many of the members here. Pakistani members were often taunted by other members INCLUDING YOU.

Now today when an Anti Pakistan article used the word moderate he suddenly become a moderate one. What a double standard you are using here. All i can see is that you guys will promote anything which is Anti Pakistan. Tomorrow you'll make OBL a Hero if that works in anyway to Anti Pakistan propaganda.
 
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I think when we said Good taliban and bad taliban that also meant "moderate and most extreme". But our statement became a joke for many of the members here. Pakistani members were often taunted by other members INCLUDING YOU.

Now today when an Anti Pakistan article used the word moderate he suddenly become a moderate one. What a double standard you are using here. All i can see is that you guys will promote anything which is Anti Pakistan. Tomorrow you'll make OBL a Hero if that works in anyway to Anti Pakistan propaganda.

Dear mjnaushad, let me make one thing clear that i am not anti pakistan, being critical and being anti pakistan are 2 different things. Now if you believe me or not, i simply dont care. To me all the taliban are bad as long as they dont lay down their weapons and stop killing people in afghanistan and pakistan. Baradar is as bad as Turabi, Omar and others. There might be a difference in their bad character and actions, some less bad some worse, but the fact is taht they are all bad.
 
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@Ahmad

-demand for pashtonistan right after pakistan's independence on the assumption that pakistan will collapse and that area would become part of afghanistan. this was the starting point of hostility.
-years of 1949 to 1950 were marked by border incidents.
-in 1955 pakistan embassy in kabul was attacked and looted. consulates in kandhar and jalalabad also came under attack.
-in 1960 fresh border clashes took place. afghan irregulars and army troops dressed as tribesmen entered pakistan and this move was sanctioned by afghan gov.
-two other raids took place in may and fall of 1961.

Pakistan-Afghanistan Relations
Author(s): Khurshid Hasan
Source: Asian Survey, Vol. 2, No. 7 (Sep., 1962), pp. 14-24
Published by: University of California Press
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now what you were saying that it was pakistan which started hostility well you are utterly wrong. afghanistan's anti pak stance since 1947 made it a natural ally of india and since then india has used afghanistan against pak whenever given a chance.

so your comment 'we didnt tell pakistan to suffer! their policies is the main cause of this suffer' is no longer valid. we did suffer because of you.

now under such situation how can you expect from pak to stay neutral in afghanistan and not support any pro pak group? your policies made this impossible for us.

and at no point i said that our policies were a complete success and therefore i dont see any reason why you brought up that point. remember i said: 'maybe we were too short sighted. or we didnt have enough financial resources to rebuild schools and colleges and repair the infrastructure'. is this pointing towards a well crafted policy?

and i will be gald if you could tell me that whom else can i not talk about? and how much will the licence cost?
 
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India seeks a new direction

By M K Bhadrakumar

The two-day visit by India's National Security Advisor Shivshankar Menon to Kabul last week took place in the immediate context of the lethal terrorist strike on Indians in Kabul on February 26, but it underscored the need for a comprehensive rethink on Delhi's Afghanistan policy.

No doubt, India's policy is at a crossroads. Assumptions behind the establishment thinking in Delhi in the recent years are fast withering amid the evolving situation in Afghanistan and India's growing security concerns. On the one hand, Delhi was complacent about its influence in Kabul outstripping Islamabad's and too confident that it rather than Pakistan was the "natural ally" to the US in the fight against terrorism.

The big question is whether Delhi is pragmatic enough to accept that new thinking has become necessary. First and foremost, it does not help if India ignores the nascent processes of Afghan national reconciliation. Delhi on its own is incapable of calibrating the Afghan reconciliation process and the Indian and US approaches diverge. Enduring peace can only come out of an inclusive political settlement in Kabul.

Delhi lost much time quibbling over the "good" and "bad" Taliban while the international community and regional players moved on. There was initially some uneasiness that the Afghan government led by President Hamid Karzai was seeking reconciliation with the insurgent groups.

But more worrisome for Delhi is the fact Karzai has begun seeking help from Pakistan. The fault lies entirely with the Indians in having failed to support him in recent months. Delhi backed losing candidate Abdullah Abdullah in last year's presidential elections on the facile assumption that Washington wished to see him in power. That was a disastrous error of judgment.

Karzai is expected to unfold a road map on reconciliation within the next six weeks. He hopes to hold a loya jirgha (grand council) on April 29 with a view, as he put it, to "get guidance from the Afghan people on how to move forward towards reintegration and reconciliation [with the Taliban]". And in his estimation, if there is greater participation by insurgent elements in parliamentary elections scheduled to be held in August, then further coalition-building becomes possible.

Delhi can anticipate that in all this, Karzai hopes for cooperation from Pakistan and as a quid pro quo he can be expected to factor in Pakistan's interests. The day after Menon concluded his visit, Pakistani army chief Ashfaq Pervez Kiani met Karzai in Kabul to discuss "matters of mutual interest". Karzai followed it up with a two-day visit to Islamabad that started on Wednesday.

Pakistan's assertiveness is bothering Indian strategists but Delhi seems to have overlooked that many factors work in Islamabad's favor. The Afghan elites in Kabul have close social and family kinships with Peshawar. The Afghan economy is dependent on imports from Pakistan. Pakistan has influence over Taliban groups and unlike in the past it has also cultivated the non-Pashtun groups of the erstwhile Northern Alliance. It also shouldn't be forgotten that more than 80% of North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) supplies for the war in Afghanistan pass through Pakistan.

And most of all, Delhi underestimated that Pakistan is the US's key non-NATO ally in the war and that implicit in this is Pakistan's expectation to be recognized by Washington as a regional power. In fact, the US has been harping on a fundamental theme: Pakistan has a choice to make, namely, whether it wants to have a comprehensive partnership with the US and NATO; and if so, that it must cooperate with Washington's strategies in the region.


The prevailing view in India is that the Pakistani military continues to play it both ways. But they may be in for disillusionment as there strong likelihood is that Pakistani army chief Kiani may have begun to explore the potential of the US offer.

Pakistan estimates that it is closer than at any time before to gaining "strategic depth" in Afghanistan - and this time, Washington may acquiesce. Indeed, the US is encouraging Pakistan-Afghanistan harmony in any way it can. However, Pakistan carefully assesses that the US's regional strategies have significant implications for its "all-weather friendship" with China, its adversarial ties with India, and its troubled relationship with Iran. The US strategies aim at countering China's rise, fostering a strategic partnership with India and navigating the standoff with Iran on Washington's terms.

Delhi will closely watch Karzai's consultations in Islamabad as a turning point. Karzai urgently needs Pakistani cooperation for his reconciliation agenda and Islamabad expects the Afghan leader to pay heed to its legitimate interests. These interests undoubtedly include a rollback of the Indian presence in Afghanistan.

During his meeting with Karzai in Kabul, Kiani reportedly offered that Pakistan could undertake the training of the Afghan army. Delhi, too, has repeatedly shown interest in assisting the build-up of the Afghan army. Conceivably, the US concurs with the Pakistani offer, whereas it discourages any such Indian role in Afghanistan. NATO secretary general Anders Fogh Rasmussen stated in Jordan on Sunday that he would like to "encourage Muslim countries to engage in Afghanistan ... Muslim countries have valuable cultural and religious awareness and expertise to bear".

Soon after Kiani's meeting with Karzai, US Defense Secretary Robert Gates paid an unannounced visit to Kabul. At a joint press conference with Karzai he also complimented Pakistan's cooperation - "the security situation is no longer deteriorating and there are also a number of other positive developments ... Improvements in the relations with Pakistan have yielded tangible results and increased cooperation along the border ... there are grounds for optimism as our countries pursue what President Karzai has called an Afghan-led, and an Afghan-owned initiative to ensure peace and stability."

Thus, from the Indian perspective, a tough regional security scenario presents itself. There is no doubt that Karzai has a lot of goodwill towards India and, in fact, he was the recipient of the Indira Gandhi Peace Prize in 2005. But Delhi needs to come to terms with the reality that his preoccupation in the coming period will be to work closely with Pakistan and to ensure that the loya jirgha turns out to be a success and a cornerstone in the reconciliation process with the Taliban.

If Delhi failed to anticipate this shift in Karzai's order of priorities, it has only itself to blame. Thus, even in the face of impending realignments in the Afghan political and military situation that were obvious to most perceptive foreign observers, Delhi kept up the presence of a few thousands Indians in Afghanistan whose security becomes now almost entirely its responsibility to shoulder.

Delhi will be averse to taking such a responsibility that requires deployment of more Indian security forces to protect Indian establishments in Afghanistan. It may well be compelled to rethink the extent of its presence, notwithstanding the current official stance that no rollback is planned.

A better understanding of the Afghan security situation would have helped and at any rate a course correction is now needed with regard to Indian projects in Afghanistan during the transition period ahead.

One way out could be for Delhi to complete the projects in the pipeline and not undertake fresh ones. This is a sensitive issue since the Indian strategic community stands in favor of a forceful presence in Afghanistan and any rollback by the government may appear a weak-kneed response to Pakistani "blackmail".

But there is a big picture, too. The Indian strategic community overlooked that the US war had a hidden agenda. Simply put, NATO's enlargement into Central Asia, the US's containment strategy toward China (and Russia and Iran) and Pakistan's key role in US regional strategy - all these impact India's interests. Most important, there is a likelihood of regional hotspots such as North Caucasus, the Ferghana Valley, Xinjiang and Kashmir lighting up.

Delhi had put all its eggs in the American basket and now needs to activate its regional policies. Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin is scheduled to arrive in Delhi at the weekend. The Indian foreign minister is scheduled to visit China next month and possibly Iran by the end of March. The annual summit meeting of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) in June in Tashkent, Uzbekistan, becomes of added interest to Delhi.

However, the heart of the matter is that the Afghan policy is a microcosm of a larger malaise that the Indian foreign policy and security establishment needs to tackle. There is no evidence that Delhi has the political will to have a course correction in this aspect.

In retrospect, Delhi's hare-brained idea of a US-led "quadripartite alliance" against China, the "Tibet card", the dilution of a 2003 strategic understanding with Iran, neglect of the traditional friendship with Russia, the lukewarm attitude toward the SCO, exaggerated notions within the establishment regarding the US-India strategic partnership as an alternative to an independent foreign policy and diversified external relationships - all these appear now like dreadful pantomimes out of India's foreign policy chronicle of recent years that Delhi would rather not think about.

Asia Times Online :: South Asia news, business and economy from India and Pakistan
 
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In retrospect, Delhi's hare-brained idea of a US-led "quadripartite alliance" against China, the "Tibet card", the dilution of a 2003 strategic understanding with Iran, neglect of the traditional friendship with Russia, the lukewarm attitude toward the SCO, exaggerated notions within the establishment regarding the US-India strategic partnership as an alternative to an independent foreign policy and diversified external relationships - all these appear now like dreadful pantomimes out of India's foreign policy chronicle of recent years that Delhi would rather not think about.

this above sums it up quite well. and follwing presents some gud opportunity

Delhi had put all its eggs in the American basket and now needs to activate its regional policies. Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin is scheduled to arrive in Delhi at the weekend. The Indian foreign minister is scheduled to visit China next month and possibly Iran by the end of March. The annual summit meeting of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) in June in Tashkent, Uzbekistan, becomes of added interest to Delhi.

a lot of room is available for manoeuvring but will india do something or stick to its current track

However, the heart of the matter is that the Afghan policy is a microcosm of a larger malaise that the Indian foreign policy and security establishment needs to tackle. There is no evidence that Delhi has the political will to have a course correction in this aspect.
 
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For real strategic depth

By Zafar Hilaly
There is no institution better than the army for PowerPoint presentations. The slides and captions say it all. There is hardly any need for the accompanying commentary. Very often all that the presenter does is to read the captions on the screen and because he reads far slower aloud than the audience does silently, sitting through a session can become tiresome. After a while, as the presenter drones on, doggedly reading aloud one caption after another, one wonders whether he believes that his audience comprises functional illiterates.

In contrast, Gen Kayani uses what is on the screen to highlight, punctuate and explain his commentary, which is why all who attended his lengthy briefing on Friday on the army's recent operations found it so riveting. What were fairly complex operations become comprehensible to the uninitiated; and what was heartening was that the fighting tactics employed seemed so novel and path-breaking, in stark contrast to my experience when I was attached to the army as a civilian probationer in East Pakistan.

We were told to "attack" the "enemy" platoon across a recently ploughed rice field. On asking why we should be so stupid as to charge an enemy across a flat field without the slightest bit of cover, and that too with the sun in our eyes, I was told to "belt up" and not try to be "too smart."

Presentations often reveal as much about the thought processes and intellect and the professional competence of the presenter as the choice of words do his communication skills. By the reckoning of most, the COAS scored straight "A's" on all four counts.

From the briefing we deduced that in contrast to how some other armies are faring across the border, in less difficult terrain and against resistance that was desultory, the army's performance has been excellent.

For example, in South Waziristan the enemy had a long time to prepare and forge a battle plan. They had a surfeit of weapons and were well stocked with ammunition. Their fortifications were strong, well dug in and with interconnecting tunnels. And yet, such was the tactical surprise the army achieved that they were routed. Apparently, the enemy had prepared to fight along roads and valleys, in other words, the traditional battlegrounds in mountainous areas, whereas the army moved at night and along sharp ridges. Such tactics completely unhinged the enemy. Like in Swat, where the army had conducted the largest heliborne operation in South Asia, jumping from airborne helicopters onto knife-edge ridges, the South Waziristan operation demonstrated that the enemy, wily and determined as he is, could be worsted on his home terrain, notwithstanding what history recounts.

The impact of the success of these operations on the morale of our troops can be gauged by the fact that the South Waziristan operation that was scheduled to take ten weeks was concluded in five. The soldiers are single-minded, convinced of their cause and supremely confident. The enemy now knows that the army has the measure of them. More importantly, so do other "neutral" tribesmen, who may have wanted to join them had they proved successful in their resistance in Swat and South Waziristan. In addition to these two major operations, the army has conducted as many as 200 of brigade strength and more, and over 500 minor operations, and all without an iota of help from outsiders. This was important, nay crucial, if we are to have the confidence to undertake such actions exclusively on our own.

One significant impact of the army's success is the greater support the army is now receiving from local tribesmen as it pursues insurgents who have fled from South Waziristan and are hiding in North Waziristan. Arms caches are being unearthed on the basis of fresh intelligence supplied by locals, and further searches are being conducted. Naturally, a "blowback" was to be expected as the enemy tries to recoup morale; hence, the recourse by the militants to suicide bombing of soft targets in cities.

The challenges that the army faces are many, such as the need to retain public support and for the people to own the solutions being proffered. Success could not be measured in the number of enemies killed, actually those numbers are immaterial. More important is how quickly, and how well, the government is able to rebuild in the areas seized from the enemy and how speedily life could return to normal. And in this regard more must be done and quickly, despite resource constraints. If we failed, the insurgents would return once the army had left.

Another challenge is to establish the writ of the government and bring critical spaces under control and to reduce the gap between public expectations and what was doable. Otherwise frustrations would grow. Hence, all segments of society -- the army, public opinion, the media -- have to be on board with an agreed strategy to demonstrate that they view the war as our war and not that of America. This happily now exists.

As for the American effort in Afghanistan, the Americans will have to show that they are winning before they could hope to have the support of the populace. This is not happening at the moment. And until it does, something that will take time, local support or the formation of, say, anti-insurgent lashkars, is out of the question.

Asked about his remark that Pakistan's policy was "India-centric" the COAS said that what determined Pakistan's strategy was Indian capability, not intentions. India's defence budget was vastly more than ours ($29 billion vs. $4 billion) and, while there is no question of matching Indian expenditure, Pakistan must acquire a capability to ward India off.

The COAS also clarified that the concept of "strategic depth" that Pakistan sought in connection with Afghanistan was never meant to suggest that Pakistan should "control" Afghanistan, but rather to have a peaceful and friendly Afghanistan as a neighbour.

While just about everything one heard was reassuring and, frankly, music to our ears, left unaddressed, if only because of time constraints, were a number of questions that the briefing raised. For example, why the urge to "mediate" between the Americans and the Taliban, considering what our experience has shown? And since when has anyone had a right to mediate or demand that they be allowed to do so? Besides, for mediation to succeed a high degree of trust must exist between the parties involved and the mediator, which is palpably not the case in Afghanistan. At best, one felt, Pakistan should offer its services as a facilitator, and, then, only if asked. This seems a prudent course, considering that Afghanistan's other neighbours may also want a similar "mediating" role.

Secondly, when have we ever had a "friendly" government in Afghanistan? Afghanistan actually opposed the admission of Pakistan to the UN in 1948. The only Afghan leader who demonstrated a willingness to recognise the Durand Line as the international border was Sardar Daud, who was killed on the eve of his visit to Pakistan in 1978, lest he "sell out" to Pakistan.

Actually, what we desire is not a government in Kabul that is "friendly," as much as one that will not align with India to threaten Pakistan's security. And that we can only ensure by keeping our guard up, giving no cause to Afghanistan to gang up against us. And if they persist in taking such other action, including the suspension of the transit trade facility which the Afghans anyway observe mostly in the breach, to make such moves grossly counterproductive.

Finally, it is difficult to comprehend the logic behind our offer to train the Afghan National Army. While it makes sense to oppose leaving the training of such a force to India, if we were to be assigned such a task today then the only conceivable enemy that the Afghan army would need to be trained to combat would be the Taliban. Training a hitherto unfriendly, Pakistan-averse Tajik-dominated force to fight a Taliban/Pakhtun opponent that is traditionally well disposed to Pakistan would require a level of dexterity that only erstwhile Byzantine courtiers possessed. It simply won't wash.

Nevertheless, an unmistakeable feeling that one took away from the briefing was that the army was in excellent hands and militarily the war was going well for Pakistan. The other was that because Gen Kayani is a man with oodles of common sense, common decency and common honesty he has made himself forever ineligible for public office.

The News International - No. 1 English Newspaper from Pakistan - Friday, March 12, 2010
 
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It is not gona happen, people have lost their lives, homes, kids and everything in fight against the taliban(before the americans came to afghanistan), they wont let it happen.

Secondly, India might play a smart role here by announcing all these things, who knows? for just 2 reasons which came to my mind:

1-To make pakistan look bad as supporter of violence and terrorists.
2-To make india look good by announcing that they are building the infrastructure in Afghanistan, but the others dont want them to deliver this. Bear in mind that india have a good image in Afghanistan and the projects they have undertaken in differnt parts of Afghanistan is very visible to the general public, such as a new Agriculture University in Kabul, Parliament building, Road constructions, water/electricity dam in the west and alot more.

This whole business of making someone 'look' bad or good is beyond me. For sure Pakistan or Karzai or Obama will take decisions based on interests and strategy and not on impressions. I truly dont understand India's strategy of throwing money at the problem (similar to Obama's response to the recession) by building roads etc (which is in itself a good thing to do and I support it).

But India is in a no win situation. If Taliban comes to power we are unhappy and if anyone else does, Pak is unhappy (and then who will find other ways to spite India like seeding a few more LETs).

Secondly, the WEST and Pakistan have a deal to bring good or bad Taliban to power sooner or later...
 
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This whole business of making someone 'look' bad or good is beyond me. For sure Pakistan or Karzai or Obama will take decisions based on interests and strategy and not on impressions. I truly dont understand India's strategy of throwing money at the problem (similar to Obama's response to the recession) by building roads etc (which is in itself a good thing to do and I support it).

But India is in a no win situation. If Taliban comes to power we are unhappy and if anyone else does, Pak is unhappy (and then who will find other ways to spite India like seeding a few more LETs).

Secondly, the WEST and Pakistan have a deal to bring good or bad Taliban to power sooner or later...

There is no way the Taliban gona rule Afghanistan again. Yes, there is a chance of them going back to normal life and integrate with the wider society, which is not a problem, they are from afghanistan and they have the same right as much as the other people have, but they first have to stop killing their own people. I am sure there are other ways that can give pakistan a peace of mind too. It will be good for all of us. I just hope some sort of solution comes of these recent developments.
 
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The one most important factor that differentiates India’s relations with Afghanistan vis-à-vis Pakistan - physical proximity.

The Afghans know that India, does not have the ability or the capability to send and sustain it’s Army to Kabul. Pakistan does. USA/ NATO did, because Pakistan allowed. Engaging India will not result in paying with their country. With Pakistan, one can’t be too sure.

Does India have a stake? It does. Kabul has been neutral to both Pakistan and India. At the first opportunity, it had, Pakistan occupied Afghanistan through its proxies.

Strategic depth is the reason. But is it justified? Islamabad is torn between; the old school who see Taliban as a strategic assets even today, and the new school, who see them as liabilities. The last 3 bloody years of Pakistan vindicating the new school's views.

Most of us in Pakistan and India go for selective amnesia when history is concerned. Many in Pakistan perceive the Taliban ruled days of Afghanistan - the classic having the cake and eating it too - irrespective of the heavy price. A price it continues to pay till today.

So much for strategy and strategists.

After all, decisive second strike capabilities can secure no first strike. Gen Khyani is correct, when he says that Indian Capability and not Intension is of concern for the Pakistan Army. Indian views will not differ much from Gen Khayani.

Does it concerns India? Of course it does. An increasingly radicalized society with nuclear weapons, where terrorists attack day in and day out with impunity, within the heart of Islamabad if of concern. WMD in Taliban's hands would be the apocalypse.

Ability to takeout if need arises, these WMD at once, secures India and the world. Dispersed WMDs across Pakistan and Afghanistan makes the task that much more challenging for the world.

With the eminent exit of the American, the void needs to fill judiciously. USA needs to avoid a repeat of "Saigon Exit" while Pakistan needs to declare victory to reign in the Talibans. The world recognizes this.

Indian embassy bombing and the spat of terror attack against Indian citizen is part of this filling up process.

India has just one objective and that is to see that the government that would emerge and rule Kabul would be neutral to India, if not friendly.

Indian engagement of Afghanistan, in keeping with its strategic needs, is to engage the common Afghans, as a soft power. India got the maximum bang for the buck.

While other countries will and have left behind deaths and destruction, when they exit(ed) Afghanistan. Roads, electricity, health-care and Infrastructure are what India leaves behind, (if it is forced to exit by Pakistan).

Like Kargil, a tactical victory but strategic blunder that Pakistan will ensure for itself.

Irrespective of the glee and frowns of the so called strategist faces. Common people have common sense.

Try telling the villages that has water and electricity for the first time - India is evil because India constructed the water supply system and the electricity supply for them. :P

It makes more sense for Pakistan to see that further Talibanisation of the Afghan society is avoided and reversed. The road to modern Pakistan ( a la Turkey ) does not lead through Kabul.
 
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Afghan insurgents Hezb-e-Islami hold talks in Kabul

The team from the Hezb-e-Islami group of Gulbuddin Hekmatyar held talks with President Karzai, his spokesmen said.

It is the first confirmed direct contact between Mr Karzai and envoys of Mr Hekmatyar, who is wanted by the US.

Hezb-e-Islami fighters are based mainly in eastern Afghanistan and share many aims with the Taliban. The two groups clashed in the north in recent months.

Observers say the talks in Kabul may only be preliminary but they come at a fluid time in Afghan politics, with a peace jirga or tribal gathering due to be held in a few weeks' time and a surge in US-led troop numbers under way.

On Friday the former UN envoy to Afghanistan Kai Eide confirmed he had been holding secret contacts with top Taliban leaders for the past year.

Speaking to the BBC, Mr Eide strongly criticised Pakistan's recent arrests of high-ranking Afghan Taliban leaders, saying they had put a stop to the contacts.

The Hezb-e-Islami delegation is headed by a former Afghan prime minister, Qutbuddin Helal, who is deputy to Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, another former prime minister.

"I can confirm that a delegation of Hezb-i-Islami... is in Kabul with a plan," Reuters news agency quoted a spokesman for Mr Karzai as saying.

Among the group's reported demands are a pull-out of foreign forces from Afghanistan by this summer, a year ahead of a date indicated by US President Barack Obama for any withdrawal to begin.

They also want fresh elections within a year and a new constitution.

"The main condition is the empowerment of President Karzai to engage in talks and make decisions," a spokesman for Hekmatyar, Wali Ullah, said.

"The aggressive occupying forces should also announce a schedule for leaving Afghanistan."

Clashes with Taliban

Mr Hekmatayar is a highly controversial figure
His group has battled Nato and Afghan forces in Afghanistan's east and north for years, while the Taliban have led the insurgency in the south.

Earlier this month, officials said that at least 60 militants were killed in fighting between the Taliban and Hezb-e-Islami in Baghlan province in northern Afghanistan.

Reports said they had clashed over control of local villages and taxes.

The two groups have previously been allied in their opposition to Afghanistan's central government and the presence of foreign forces.

Along with the Taliban, Hezb-e-Islami has been blamed for much of the insurgent violence in Afghanistan.

Mr Hekmatyar has previously offered to negotiate with the government - on the condition that foreign forces leave the country.

He was one of the main recipients of US military aid during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in the 1980s, but was later vilified for his part in the fighting among mujahideen factions which killed more than 25,000 civilians in the early 1990s.

He was designated a terrorist by the United States in 2003 for supporting al-Qaeda.

BBC News - Afghan Hezb-e-Islami militants hold peace talks in Kabul
 
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so his visit to pak was quite useful. hizb e islami is a big group and it is definitely a significant move
 
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