Pakistan Urges US to Refrain From Attacking Iran

[xyxmt]

Pakistan Leaders know once Iran is destroyed, It will be replaced with a Pro US, Pro Israel Iran that will be anti Russia, Anti China and Anti Pakistan.
The Effects will be:
-Russia and China Lose another ally in the mideast.
-China loses its belt and road route through Iran
-Iran will only sell its oil and gas in US dollars, hence russia and china will not be able to break the US dollar dominance
-US gains a new route into afghanistan through Iran, Pakistan will no longer be needed, they will be finally able to Sanction Pakistan
-Iranian Gas Pipeline will finally be built towards Europe, ending Russian energy dominance over europe, lowering Russia revenues hence weakening China strongest ally.
-Relationship between new pro US/Israel Iran and Pro US India will go towards alliance.
-Pakistan will be surrounded by 3 sides.


Iran isnt perfect, but a US puppet Iran will have disastrous Geopolitical consequences for China,Russia,Pakistan
And a positive impact for India US alliance against China and Pakistan

or we can turn Iran into another Afghanistan for US

 

[SIPRA]

Lol refugee. There are no refugees coming to Pakistan in case of Iran US war. You are so naive. Iranian have prepared for decades for a war like this. They will fight till the last man like they did with Iraq. Iranians never left the front line. Instead Pakistan needs to make emergency hospitals is border area of Afghanistan because Iran US war will befought there. USA is weak there and Iran has missile pointing to Afghanistan. Taliban will give them passage and Kabul will suffer. Iran would be fool to take war south or west rather Iran should convert this war into Afghan liberation from invasion. This will provide Iran an ideology and it will hurt USA in the very head.

Very interesting scenario. I never thought of it.

 

[LeGenD]

or we can turn Iran into another Afghanistan for US

And face total collapse afterwards. You are naive.

 

[SIPRA]

I hope Bolton will not disappoint this time, I have been waiting for this war for ages.

There is a news, on another thread, that possibly Bolton is on exit route.

 

[BHarwana]

And in spite of all that, Iranians could not even take over Basra in Iraq. Contending with US-led forces out in the open is never a good idea because USAF and USN will make short work of any human waves.

Every country have elements who are motivated enough to defend their homeland from potential aggression but this does not imply that the entire country is a fortress of sorts - not even close. In Iraq, Fidayeen volunteers emerged to resist the advances of US-led forces towards Baghdad alongside Iraqi military forces, and thousands of these volunteers died in the process (2000 died in Mosul alone); US-led forces overwhelmed Iraqi defenses and took over Baghdad in just 21 days.

A chunk of Iran have recently suffered from extensive flooding and there are numerous elements who are not happy with Mullah regime. Back in the days of war with Iraq, Iranian Revolution was a recent development and scores of individuals were willing to fight for Ayatollah Khomeini but this is longer the case.

Don't buy into Iranian propaganda.

Not buying into any propaganda but stating the obvious. To wage war on Iran USA just cannot win with an aerial campaign but ground intervention is needed. Now Iran also has costal batteries with long enough range to keep ships away from shore. Apart from that USA is weak in Afghanistan and it is obvious Iran will open another front for USA. Then there will be diversion in Syria and Iraq as well.

If USA really wants to go to war with Iran USA needs to pull out from Afghanistan or USA will lose this war. It will turn from attacking Iran into defending Afghanistan for USA very quickly.

 

[LeGenD]

Not buying into any propaganda but stating the obvious. To wage war on Iran USA just cannot win with an aerial campaign but ground intervention is needed. Now Iran also has costal batteries with long enough range to keep ships away from shore. Apart from that USA is weak in Afghanistan and it is obvious Iran will open another front for USA. Then there will be diversion in Syria and Iraq as well.

If USA really wants to go to war with Iran USA needs to pull out from Afghanistan or USA will lose this war. It will turn from attacking Iran into defending Afghanistan for USA very quickly.

Wishful thinking on your part. Iran is in no position to open another front for US in Afghanistan.

Tomahawk cruise missiles will take good care of Iranian coastal defenses. Seriously dude, you are a juvenile in assessing conventional engagements.

 

[xyxmt]

And face total collapse afterwards. You are naive.

IF US comes to Iran than its do or die for Pakistan.

 

[LeGenD]

IF US comes to Iran than its do or die for Pakistan.

We cannot bear the pressures of another war - very simple. Pakistani FM have conveyed Pakistani position in press.

US have too much stamina and resources for war-fighting; Pakistan cannot keep up with this nonsense. Fencing the border, is of utmost importance now.

 

[BHarwana]

You do not understand; US will have access to Afghanistan via Iran as well; and Taliban will face more pressure to negotiate with US in this situation.

US-Taliban settlement is done deal. Taliban will not fight for any country, they are not mercenaries for hire.

My friend you are acting like a child. Taliban will fight for their own Homeland and freedom and Iran will support them with weapons and safe heavens and Kabul will fall. USA will suffer. This is the obvious war which is coming. The worst position would be for India in Afghanistan. Pakistan will eat tacos and watch shit unfold

USA wants Iran to fight war south towards Saudis. Iran wants to fight wat north towards Afghanistan.

 

[Crusher]

My friend you are acting like a child. Taliban will fight for their own Homeland and freedom and Iran will support them with weapons and safe heavens and Kabul will fall. USA will suffer. This is the obvious war which is coming. The worst position would be for India in Afghanistan. Pakistan will eat tacos and watch shit unfold

USA wants Iran to fight war south towards Saudis. Iran wants to fight wat north towards Afghanistan.

Do you think US gives a damn about kabul, they have already decided to leave that sh1thole, that is why they are negotiating a final deal with all parties in that sh1thole called afghanistan.

 

[Arsalan 345]

Pakistan should stop pretending to be master of Muslim world.this is not our conflict.let them fight.

 

[maverick1977]

Pakistan Leaders know once Iran is destroyed, It will be replaced with a Pro US, Pro Israel Iran that will be anti Russia, Anti China and Anti Pakistan.
The Effects will be:
-Russia and China Lose another ally in the mideast.
-China loses its belt and road route through Iran
-Iran will only sell its oil and gas in US dollars, hence russia and china will not be able to break the US dollar dominance
-US gains a new route into afghanistan through Iran, Pakistan will no longer be needed, they will be finally able to Sanction Pakistan
-Iranian Gas Pipeline will finally be built towards Europe, ending Russian energy dominance over europe, lowering Russia revenues hence weakening China strongest ally.
-Relationship between new pro US/Israel Iran and Pro US India will go towards alliance.
-Pakistan will be surrounded by 3 sides.


Iran isnt perfect, but a US puppet Iran will have disastrous Geopolitical consequences for China,Russia,Pakistan
And a positive impact for India US alliance against China and Pakistan

One aspects was missed out. The consquences of this attack can be heavy on Israel. If Iran realized that it will go down, i am sure it will cause destruction to Israel and economic losses to countries who are involved in supporting US.

But then again, this might be the only way to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons till its too big of a price to pay.

 

[BHarwana]

Wishful thinking on your part. Iran is in no position to open another front for US in Afghanistan.

Tomahawk cruise missiles will take good care of Iranian coastal defenses. Seriously dude, you are a juvenile in assessing conventional engagements.

My friend I am not thinking wishfully but telling you reality Iran US war will result in Taliban getting back kabul. Why would Iran take war south instead of north? Give me one good reason for Iran not supporting Taliban?

 

[LeGenD]

My friend you are acting like a child. Taliban will fight for their own Homeland and freedom and Iran will support them with weapons and safe heavens and Kabul will fall. USA will suffer. This is the obvious war which is coming. The worst position would be for India in Afghanistan. Pakistan will eat tacos and watch shit unfold

USA wants Iran to fight war south towards Saudis. Iran wants to fight wat north towards Afghanistan.

No, you are being a juvenile in your view of things. Should US strike at Iran in force and bring about collapse of its regime, how would Iranian leftovers in the position to help Taliban in Afghanistan? Rather Taliban will be under intense pressure to negotiate an endgame with US.

US is weak in Afghanistan because it does not have direct access to its lands from any angle. By setting fire to Iran, US will have proper access to Afghanistan.

 

[BHarwana]

Do you think US gives a damn about kabul, they have already decided to leave that sh1thole, that is why they are negotiating a final deal with all parties in that sh1thole called afghanistan.

So they don't give a damn? When the fought there for 18 years and spent more than trillion dollars? They don't give a damn?