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In the scope of Indigenous UAV (MALE) Development Project,
The Signing Ceremony concerning cooperation agreement between Turkey (TAI) and Pakistan (AWC),


UAV Projects Signature Ceremonies (May 23rd, 2007)

Brothers, If Above source of official Turkish SSM do not mention any other Male development project different from TIHA, You are already a partner of TIHA-A MALE UAV...

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Thank u brother for such an information. it looks a good platform to develop and learn from. but do u know wheter TIHA-A has the ability to become CUAV, as our demand is paramount for this.

this is very encouraging to see such a cooperation between two brother countries plus the assitence provided by Turkish people, i thank u very much for this. ALLAH bless u :cheers:
 
hacsan i dont think there is any news around the TAI is converting TIHA into a armed UAV,,,,,

but you are right ... there is a general trend of converting a MALE UAV into a armed UAV later on if it proves to be highly reliable platform .....

rest shipping or transferring the technology to Pakistan is concerned .... I doubt that ... they are still in manufacturing stage of prototype variant of TIHA .... and UAV technology takes longer time to mature and establish than normal aircrafts.... seeing the TAI other UAV projects they havent been such big success in the past .... in short it will take sometime even for them to see what they have made and how good or bad it is .....
I hope they do help us in coming times ,,,, but that time doesn't look that near ....

let me add one more thing ,,,, in such technologies if u buy some aircraft (including a UAV) from abroad .... you cant replicate it easily in Pakistan .... look in 50 years we have only been successful to manufacture mashak completely still its engine comes from abroad ....
summarizing ,,,, it is important that we develop our selves otherwise ,,, copying systems is not good ,,, u cant really do anything new and good with a technology which you didnt design yourself ...

i hope all of it makes some sense ....'

Dark_Star
 
India voices concerns over drone sale to Pak​


NEW DELHI: Indian External Affairs Minister S M Krishna has reacted to a possible arms deal involving sale of US drones to Pakistan. Krishna has emphatically told America that an arms sale would create instability in the region adding that in the past, such weapons have always been used against India.

Pakistan has drawn up a big list of military purchases from the United States. But, what's worrying India is that Islamabad is lobbying hard to get the deadly Predators Drones from the United States.

The worries of New Delhi are that any military equipment bought by Pakistan is essentially meant to be used against India, said Indian External Affairs Minister S M Krishna.

Pakistan is seeking Predator Drones from the United States saying they need the drones to fight militancy along the Afghan border. But, invariably the drones would be used along the Indian border both for spying and combat missions, he worried

A list has been drawn up and they include helicopters, night vision devices, laser guided ammunition.

Predator drones are particularly worrisome as they constitute top of the line technology. They are unmanned aerial vehicles with weaponry that can accurately hit targets. The United States is using them extensively for fighting militants, including in parts of Pakistan's Northwest Frontier Province area.

India does not have anything equivalent to the predators and there is concern about India having them. Currently India is working to get an equivalent of the predator. This is the Harop system from Israel but it will be a long time before India gets them, he added.
 
India voices concerns over drone sale to Pak​


NEW DELHI: Indian External Affairs Minister S M Krishna has reacted to a possible arms deal involving sale of US drones to Pakistan. Krishna has emphatically told America that an arms sale would create instability in the region adding that in the past, such weapons have always been used against India.

Pakistan has drawn up a big list of military purchases from the United States. But, what's worrying India is that Islamabad is lobbying hard to get the deadly Predators Drones from the United States.

The worries of New Delhi are that any military equipment bought by Pakistan is essentially meant to be used against India, said Indian External Affairs Minister S M Krishna.

Pakistan is seeking Predator Drones from the United States saying they need the drones to fight militancy along the Afghan border. But, invariably the drones would be used along the Indian border both for spying and combat missions, he worried

A list has been drawn up and they include helicopters, night vision devices, laser guided ammunition.

Predator drones are particularly worrisome as they constitute top of the line technology. They are unmanned aerial vehicles with weaponry that can accurately hit targets. The United States is using them extensively for fighting militants, including in parts of Pakistan's Northwest Frontier Province area.

India does not have anything equivalent to the predators and there is concern about India having them. Currently India is working to get an equivalent of the predator. This is the Harop system from Israel but it will be a long time before India gets them, he added.

So it means that Pakistan should wait until India gets it first. That it is the India's right to acquire any weapons and not Pakistan's. India is five times big force than Pakistan but starts crying too much on any Pakistan deal.
 
India voices concerns over drone sale to Pak​


NEW DELHI: Indian External Affairs Minister S M Krishna has reacted to a possible arms deal involving sale of US drones to Pakistan. Krishna has emphatically told America that an arms sale would create instability in the region adding that in the past, such weapons have always been used against India.

Pakistan has drawn up a big list of military purchases from the United States. But, what's worrying India is that Islamabad is lobbying hard to get the deadly Predators Drones from the United States.

The worries of New Delhi are that any military equipment bought by Pakistan is essentially meant to be used against India, said Indian External Affairs Minister S M Krishna.

Pakistan is seeking Predator Drones from the United States saying they need the drones to fight militancy along the Afghan border. But, invariably the drones would be used along the Indian border both for spying and combat missions, he worried

A list has been drawn up and they include helicopters, night vision devices, laser guided ammunition.

Predator drones are particularly worrisome as they constitute top of the line technology. They are unmanned aerial vehicles with weaponry that can accurately hit targets. The United States is using them extensively for fighting militants, including in parts of Pakistan's Northwest Frontier Province area.

India does not have anything equivalent to the predators and there is concern about India having them. Currently India is working to get an equivalent of the predator. This is the Harop system from Israel but it will be a long time before India gets them, he added.
Whine, whine, whine - perhaps India should stop obtaining weapons as well - what exactly is she planning to do with them?

Put them in a smelter and proclaim that she did her part to reduce weapons on earth?

It is interesting though that India decided to comment on this issue - is the US softening its opposition to selling Pakistan the Predator ...
 
So it means that Pakistan should wait until India gets it first. That it is the India's right to acquire any weapons and not Pakistan's. India is five times big force than Pakistan but starts crying too much on any Pakistan deal.

its their habit let them CRY HARDER

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Whine, whine, whine - perhaps India should stop obtaining weapons as well - what exactly is she planning to do with them?

Put them in a smelter and proclaim that she did her part to reduce weapons on earth?

It is interesting though that India decided to comment on this issue - is the US softening its opposition to selling Pakistan the Predator ...

no they will hunt animals in land air and sea xxaxaxaxa!:lol:
 
Easy people - US is not going to sell Predator system to Pakistan and the statements from Gilani are nothing but politcal posturing.

India on the other hand already operate Israeli Harpy and Indian defense industrial capablity is working hard to absorb and improve the technology. End of the day it's about technical capablity, even if the US "transferred" Predatory to Pakistan, Pakistan do not have the capablity to institutionalize the technology.

Of course Pakistan does manufacture some UAV, why doesn't it employ these for better ISR?? it can use Cobra to deliver the business end, but it must first have refined the ISR capablity, perhaps it is in these fields that US commercial enterprises have be of assistance, help refine the sensor, communication and control aspects? Subsystems are more important than the brand name "predator"
 
India voices concerns over drone sale to Pak​


NEW DELHI: Indian External Affairs Minister S M Krishna has reacted to a possible arms deal involving sale of US drones to Pakistan. Krishna has emphatically told America that an arms sale would create instability in the region adding that in the past, such weapons have always been used against India.

Pakistan has drawn up a big list of military purchases from the United States. But, what's worrying India is that Islamabad is lobbying hard to get the deadly Predators Drones from the United States.

The worries of New Delhi are that any military equipment bought by Pakistan is essentially meant to be used against India, said Indian External Affairs Minister S M Krishna.

Pakistan is seeking Predator Drones from the United States saying they need the drones to fight militancy along the Afghan border. But, invariably the drones would be used along the Indian border both for spying and combat missions, he worried

A list has been drawn up and they include helicopters, night vision devices, laser guided ammunition.

Predator drones are particularly worrisome as they constitute top of the line technology. They are unmanned aerial vehicles with weaponry that can accurately hit targets. The United States is using them extensively for fighting militants, including in parts of Pakistan's Northwest Frontier Province area.

India does not have anything equivalent to the predators and there is concern about India having them. Currently India is working to get an equivalent of the predator. This is the Harop system from Israel but it will be a long time before India gets them, he added.
Indian dream of akhand bhaRAT will continue till the cows come home... In other words you can say "rasi jaal gai per bal nahin gaea" The destruction of akhand bhaRAT after having their *** ruled for 1000 years is something that will continue to haunt them till eternity..In other words folks, who gives a sh!t what Indians thinks what matters is what we are and where we are heading.We should jointly develop UAV with Turkey as they have the technology to do it.
 
Indian dream of akhand bhaRAT will continue till the cows come home... In other words you can say "rasi jaal gai per bal nahin gaea" The destruction of akhand bhaRAT after having their *** ruled for 1000 years is something that will continue to haunt them till eternity..In other words folks, who gives a sh!t what Indians thinks what matters is what we are and where we are heading.We should jointly develop UAV with Turkey as they have the technology to do it.

Same old..Akhand bharat Crap...not by any Indian but ....by a Pakistani......who does not understand the meaning of what he says....
:hitwall:

No Indian on any forum speaks of this Akhand Bharat...apart from Pakistani folks....
 
According to Turkish SSM plans, Turkish defence industry is going to start developing anti-radiation drones similar with Herons. According to planning specifications;

Indigenous Anti-Radiasyon /attack UAV development project will start officially in 2010.. [500km range, 7 hours endurance, Fire-forget, RF guided UAV]..
 
Was just hearing Dawn News today, and they mentioned that a ceremony had taken place at PAC for a Tactical UAV production line inauguration in collaboration with Italy. Its the Falco UAV and it seems now PAC is going to make the UAV which will give a huge boost to our surveillance capability.
Few days ago was seeing the PAF official calendar in which they mentioned Joint Venture project with Italy in the description of the Falco UAV.

Falco UAV has great potential to grow into a more mature & capable UAV platform and the Italian firm is now eying for an Armed Version of Falco based on the customer requirements.

So now i guess the only thing left to solve is the weapon platform, and the Chinese HJ-10 specifications have just been released and available at Jane's. It is said to be in the Hellfire missile class, also other versions namely AKD-10 & AR-1 are in development stage, may even be in operational stage.

It would be an awesome integration of both and will help pakistan a lot in hunting down the militants.
 
I think so Pakistan have 4 predators. & now president zardari demanding for the Global Hawk.:pdf:
 
50 Heron MALE (Medium Altitude, Long Endurance) UAVs from Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) to India
 
Dear All,
I've came across an information that there are Photos available of those solders which are kept by India in 1971's indo-pak war and yet India didn't release them or not found.

If any of you have any information that where i can find those photos, please let me know on my ID 'mbaqurashi@gmail.com' or at least post the info here. I'd be very obliged if anyone could provide me some web link.

Thanks and best regards.
Bilal Aziz
Lahore.
 
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