Pakistan-Turkey 4 Milgem Ada Class Corvettes Contract - Construction started

[Haris Ali2140]

Any idea when will we receive the first of the MILGEM, 54AP and Chinese subs?

Mainly after 2025.

 

[cabatli_53]

Mainly after 2025.

First ship will be launched on sea in 2021, to be delivered in 2023. Other ships will be delivered at intervals of 6 months...

 

[Haris Ali2140]

First ship will be launched on sea in 2021, to be delivered in 2023. Other ships will be delivered at intervals of 6 months...

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I was also talking about subs.

 

[Imran Khan]

First ship will be launched on sea in 2021, to be delivered in 2023. Other ships will be delivered at intervals of 6 months...

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finally we see it before we die

 

[dBSPL]

Some highlights from Erdogan's statements:

In the first part of the speech, Erdoğan thank the entire team who worked under the MILGEM program and pray for the first ship to be made for Pakistan. It was also commemorated the victory of Preveze due to the anniversary. The main part of the speech includes information on the Turkish defense industry localization rate and engineering capacity. In addition, reference was made to the main and subcontractor companies within the scope of MILGEM program.

A few important details caught my attention.

First one is about our submarine project, "which is designed for the needs of the Turkish Navy and our brotherly country!, in progress" , said by Erdoğan.

- Also he said that Izmir shipyard will be expanded. Thus, three large facilities will serve within the navy comand. (Currently Gölcük shipyard command specializes in submarine construction, while Pendik shipyard command specializes in surface platforms.) Integration with civil shipyards will be deepened. We plan to expand our share in the world market. "We will have domestic products in every area from ship propulsion systems to cannon, torpedo, missile systems or all navionic areas." he said. And of course , some rhetorics and messages given:

- "We will never forget the implicit embargo imposed on us when we want to reach qualified systems in the past."

- "We have reduced our external dependence rate from 80% to 30% in the defense industry. Together with the projects in the tender process, the total size of the defense industry projects has exceeded 75 billion dollars. There are currently over 700 active projects in the defense industry. There are 5 Turkish company among the 100 largest defense companies in the world, hopefully this number will increase soon. Our goal is to get rid of the critical external dependence completely in 2023. Another reason for all these investments is to ensure that our brotherly countries benefit from this accumulation when needed, and to deter those who want to disrupt our unity and integrity. The cause of most problems we faced in the last 6 years is to dissuade Turkey from this purpose. If they awakened the sleeping giant, they will suffer the consequences. "

The admiral of the Pakistani navy and also Erdoğan reserved a place in theirs speech for Cemmu-Kashmir . Some of Erdogan's statements:

- 8 million people are sentenced to live in like an open air prison. There is a situation just like in Palestine. What is humanity doing against this tragedy?

- Except Pakistan, only Turkey and Malaysia spoke for our Kashmiri brothers, in UN Assembly. We need to understand this silence well, so there are other scenarios in minds?

- (probably he referring to the Malaysia-Pakistan-Turkey trilateral) In our minds, it will be only to stand by the righteous and innocent people . In our belief, there is a world where the righteous is strong, we're not condemned to a world where the powerful crush the righteous.. We will continue to fight together for this.

When the entire ceremony is uploaded to the Internet, I will edit and add this message. In short, It was an important ceremony for show our friendship and common understanding to the audience.

 

[Sulman Badshah]

First one is about our submarine project, "which is designed for the needs of the Turkish Navy and our brotherly country!, in progress" , said by Erdoğan.

Pakistan recently went to Turkey regarding midget submarines (They might be talking about that one)

here is Bilal (quwa) article about it

https://quwa.org/2017/05/23/pakistan-mini-submarines/

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Bol news reporting that 4 milgem handed over to pakistan

 

[ali_raza]

Bol news reporting that 4 milgem handed over to pakistan

hahahaha

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Bol news reporting that 4 milgem handed over to pakistan

Hum news covered it good. Gave time line and also referenced TOT.

 

[TsAr]

First ship will be launched on sea in 2021, to be delivered in 2023. Other ships will be delivered at intervals of 6 months...

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Any idea what changes were requested by PN and what sub systems are being incorporated on them?

 

[cabatli_53]

Pakistan recently went to Turkey regarding midget submarines (They might be talking about that one)

here is Bilal (quwa) article about it

https://quwa.org/2017/05/23/pakistan-mini-submarines/

"We have many more projects to strengthen our navy, and work on the diesel-electric submarine project, which will meet the needs of both our country and friendly states, is ongoing," Erdogan said.

Source:AA

He is talking about 3000t class MilDen indigenous submarine program.

 

[eagleeye]

another video about the ceremony with a speak of pakistan navel officer

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1yoKMzOQoVdGQ#

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

"We have many more projects to strengthen our navy, and work on the diesel-electric submarine project, which will meet the needs of both our country and friendly states, is ongoing," Erdogan said.

Source:AA

He is talking about 3000t class MilDen indigenous submarine program.

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TFX, MilDen etc. are the ultimate stuffs!! If Pak is even after MilGem, ATAK etc. I am pretty sure these projects are too lucrative for Pak to not to participate....

 

[The Ronin]

On 29 September, the Istanbul Shipyard held the steel-cutting ceremony of the Pakistan Navy’s (PN) first MILGEM corvette. The Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan presided over the event alongside various government, naval and industry officials from Turkey and Pakistan.

The PN currently has four MILGEM corvettes on order, with all four ships due for delivery to the PN by 2023-2024. Construction of the first ship will last 54 months, but the remaining three ships will follow the first in quicker succession, i.e., at six month intervals of one another (ASFAT A.S).

Under the contract, which was signed in 2018, two of the ships will be built in Turkey, while the remaining two in Pakistan. Pakistan will also receive “complete transfer of technology and the transfer of intellectual property rights for the design of these ships.”

The fourth ship was to be a new frigate class (i.e., Jinnah-class) jointly designed by the primary contractor, ASFAT A.S. (Military Factories and Shipyards Management Inc), and Pakistan’s Maritime Technologies Complex (MTC). However, it appears that the new frigate design will apply to all four ships.

During AMAN-19, the Pakistan Navy’s biennial multi-national exercise, the PN Chief of Naval Staff (CNS), Admiral Zafar Mahmood Abbasi, reportedly outlined that the PN’s MILGEMs will be equipped with the Chinese HQ-16 surface-to-air missile (SAM) system through a 16-cell vertical launch system (VLS).

The VLS will be installed at the fore of the ship, behind the main gun. In addition, the PN’s MILGEMs will deploy a modified version of the GENESIS combat management system (CMS).

The PN MILGEMs will also deploy an “indigenously developed missile system,” which could be the Harba subsonic dual-anti-ship cruising missile (ASCM) and land-attack cruise missile (LACM). However, the most recent Ministry of Defence Production (MoDP) report also disclosed the development of a new supersonic missile for the PN, so the PN’s MILGEMs may deploy something other than the Harba ASCM/LACM as well.

The CNS did not specify if the inclusion of VLS was limited to solely the fourth ship, implying that all four MILGEM ships will be configured along identical lines. One indication for this change could be that in 2016, the PN was expected to procure four MILGEM Ada corvettes configured along similar lines to the Turkish Navy’s ships at $1 billion US. However, the deal is now reportedly worth $1.5 billion US.

The PN’s forthcoming Type 054A/P frigates will also deploy the HQ-16, but through 32 VLS cells. All four Type 054A/Ps are due by 2021. Interestingly, the Pakistan Army also inducted the HQ-16/LY-80, which shows that there is a measure of commonality between the Navy and Army on SAMs.

Notes & Comments:

In addition to the significant modifications (which will at least apply to the fourth ship, if not all ships) is the fact that Pakistan owns the intellectual property (IP) rights to the design. Thus, it appears that the PN will commit to the design for the long-term and, potentially, add more ships of this type in the future.

The Jinnah-class corvette/light frigate is a fully multi-mission design. The HQ-16/LY-80 — which could have a range of 40 km or, if the PN opts for the newer configuration, 70 km – provides anti-air warfare (AAW) coverage. In addition, the Harba ASCM/LACM would provide long-range anti-shipping and stand-off range land-attack capability. If the Jinnah-class arrives by the time the PN deploys its supersonic missile (which is likely to be an ASCM), it could have a varied – and difficult to stop – anti-shipping load-out as well.

https://quwa.org/2019/09/29/steel-c...Ic3WOwxJZdQ5M11E-K9zA_8VpS8HvRA46nU4fEoyLqMMU

 

[Pakistan Ka Beta]

In entire World and of all Muslim Countries I Respect n Love Turkey after Pakistan or with Pakistan . Pakistan has many enemies , few good friends like China ,Saudi Arabia but only One Brother ( Elder Brother ) i.e Turkey .Alot of Love and Repect for Turkish Nation . ON Cyprus or Armenia (Azerbaijan issue too ) we are with Turkey