Pakistan tops troop contributors in UN peacekeeping

[A.Rahman]

but you still haven't answered the questions raised by tomcat

 

[Keysersoze]

As i said i don't interact with trolls........

If you want to ask the question then feel free......however I shall waste no more time on him.....

 

[A.Rahman]

As i said i don't interact with trolls........

If you want to ask the question then feel free......however I shall waste no more time on him.....

how does peace keeping helps the government? are they given money for it?

 

[Keysersoze]

4. How are peacekeepers compensated?

Peacekeeping soldiers are paid by their own Governments according to their own national rank and salary scale. Countries volunteering uniformed personnel to peacekeeping operations are reimbursed by the UN at a flat rate of a little over US$1,000 per soldier per month. The UN also reimburses countries for equipment. But reimbursements to these countries have been deferred at times because of cash shortages caused by Member States’ failure to pay their dues. Civilian police and other civilian personnel are paid from the peacekeeping budget established for the operation.

http://www.un.org/events/peacekeepers/2003/docs/qanda.htm

So a soldier who is on active duty for the UN gets his usual pay (as he would in his home country even if he wasn't on service for the UN) Equipment is reinbursed. PLUS a $1000 dollars a month.

 

[Keysersoze]

Ok from the same press release...........

"5. Who contributes personnel?

The United Nations Charter stipulates that to assist in maintaining peace and security around the world, all Member States of the UN should make available to the Security Council necessary armed forces and facilities. Since 1948, close to 130 nations have contributed military and civilian police personnel to peace operations. As of 30 April 2003, 89 countries were contributing a total of some 37,000 personnel, including 30,167 troops, 5,162 civilian police and 1,658 military observers.

As of 30 April 2003, the five main troop-contributing countries were Pakistan (4,245), Nigeria (3,316), India (2,735), Bangladesh (2,658) and Ghana (2,060).

Of the 37,000 troops and civilian police serving in UN peace operations, only 3,323 come from the European Union and only 558 from the United States (543 civilian police, 13 military observers and 2 soldiers)."



Ok so if we extrapolate those figures (for 2003) Pak gets $4 245 000 per month. So just to make it clear....thats $4 245 000 on top of what they would pay their soldier if they were sitting in barracks back in PAK and the equipment costs are reimbursed as well.

 

[Spring Onion]

Well its not only Pakistan but other contributing nationas are also paid.

The best part is that the people of those area where Pak Army works remmber them for their professionalism and performance.

 

[Keysersoze]

I am not questioning the professionalism, However I was merely making the point that there is a reason that smaller nations provide more troops.....And it wasn't necessarily altruism.

 

[Awesome]

Basically what Pak gets is $4 Million for maintaining a force of 100,000 in different countries. Try to get 1000 US solders for that much money.

Wow Pak gets so much...!

When sitting in the barracks they'd be serving for Pakistan not for somebody else.

 

[TomCat111]

4. How are peacekeepers compensated?

1. Other than attacking me you still haven’t answered, “If not out of some moral belief, then please enlighten us what are these troops provided from?”
2. At least Pakistani personnel do not get $1,000/month. GOI keeps approximately 50-60% of it.
3. All the UN missions bore their share of obligations. Pakistanis fulfill their share with sweat and blood.

 

[Keysersoze]

Basically what Pak gets is $4 Million for maintaining a force of 100,000 in different countries. Try to get 1000 US solders for that much money.

Wow Pak gets so much...!

When sitting in the barracks they'd be serving for Pakistan not for somebody else.

The figure I quoted was for the total peacekeepers in 2003 (4245) so that figure of $4 million was for that number $1000 dollars per soldier, per month.
so for 4245 troops they would get $50940000 per year

 

[TomCat111]

4. How are peacekeepers compensated?

How much does it cost and who pays?

UN peacekeeping is highly cost-effective. The UN spends less per year on peacekeeping worldwide than the City of New York spends on the annual budget of its police department. In 1993, annual UN peacekeeping costs reached some $3.6 billion, reflecting the expense of massive operations in the former Yugoslavia and Somalia . By 1998, costs had dropped to just under $1 billion. With the resurgence of larger-scale operations, costs for UN peacekeeping rose again, and as of March 2006, the approved peacekeeping budget for the year from 1 July 2005 to 30 June 2006 was over $5 billion. This represented only 0.5% of global military spending. Peacekeeping is far cheaper than war.

All Member States are legally obliged to pay their share of peacekeeping costs under a formula that they themselves have established. Despite this legal obligation, Member States owed approximately $2.66 billion in current and back peacekeeping dues as of 31 January 2006

The top 10 providers of assessed contributions to UN peacekeeping operations were (as of 1 January 2006): the United States, Japan, Germany, the United Kingdom, France, Italy, Canada, Spain, China and the Netherlands.

 

[TomCat111]

5. Who contributes personnel?

Who contributes personnel?

The United Nations Charter stipulates that to assist in maintaining peace and security around the world, all Member States of the UN should make available to the Security Council necessary armed forces and facilities. Since 1948, more than 130 nations have contributed military and police personnel to peace operations. Up to one million soldiers, police officers and civilians have served under the UN flag since the establishment of the first peacekeeping operation in 1948. As of 30 April 2006, 108 countries were contributing a total of some 73,000 uniformed personnel (military and police). There were also about 4,650 international civilian personnel, 1,770 UN Volunteers and more than 9,500 local civilian staff.

Despite the large and growing number of contributors, most “Blue Helmets” continue to be provided by a core group of developing countries. The 10 main troop-contributors to UN peacekeeping operations as of 30 April 2006 were Bangladesh, Pakistan, India, Jordan, Nepal, Ethiopia, Ghana, Nigeria, Uruguay and South Africa, providing together more than 67 per cent of all UN military and police personnel. Less than 5.8 per cent came from the 25-member European Union and 0.5 per cent from the United States.

DPKO's Under-Secretary-General Jean-Marie Guéhenno has repeatedly reminded Member States that “the provision of well-equipped, well-trained and disciplined military and police personnel to UN peacekeeping operations is a collective responsibility of Member States. Countries from the South should not and must not be expected to shoulder this burden alone”.

 

[TomCat111]

4. How are peacekeepers compensated?

How are peacekeepers compensated?

Troops serving in UN peacekeeping operations are paid by their own Governments according to their own national rank and salary scale. Countries volunteering military contingents and formed police units are reimbursed by the United Nations. The standard rates, approved by the General Assembly, are used to compensate for pay and allowances of all troops and supplementary payment for specialists (within infantry, logistics contingents and formed police units). In addition, troop contributing countries are reimbursed for the usage of personal clothing, gear and equipment, including personal weaponry. The current rates of reimbursement paid by the UN to troop contributing countries per peacekeeper per month include: $1,028 for pay and allowances; $303 supplementary pay for specialists; $68 for personal clothing, gear and equipment; and $5 for personal weaponry.

 

[TomCat111]

for 4245 troops they would get $50940000 per year

Try the math again.

Ranking of Military and Police
Contributions to UN Operations
Month of Report : 31-Oct-06

Country Number of Members
1 ) Pakistan . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9,790
2 ) Bangladesh . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9,655
3 ) India . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9,276
4 ) Jordan . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,819
5 ) Nepal . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,522
6 ) Ghana . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,674
7 ) Uruguay . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,583
8 ) Ethiopia . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,568
9 ) Nigeria . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,429
10 ) South Africa . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,077
11 ) France . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,029
12 ) Senegal . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,892
13 ) China . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,664
14 ) Italy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,559
15 ) Morocco . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,550

Guess rich countries like France also don't provide troops "out of some moral belief........" Are they also after UN's wealth, because France will genrate approx. $2,079,725/month?

 

[Spring Onion]

TomCat :thumb: great.

I think if all those arguing with bias almost on even some good and neutral things would if are honest agree that its not only the money. defently it does matter but not 100%

And indeed Pak army is one of the best armies
wish i could find time to post in such great manner