Pakistan to host Hurriyat leaders on Eid in New Delhi

[nForce]

lies, myths, deception are all just mere components of the broader chanakyan methodology

Interesting. What do you understand by Chanakyan methodology ?

 

[chhota bheem]

I guess angels find India as paradise then?

I am not sure of angels but am 100% sure unwanted men from around the world dont find India as paradise

 

[HariPrasad]

What you fail to understand is that Kashmir was promised a plebiscite and that is basically what Pakistan supports. On the other hand baloch joined Pakistan by choice.

The agreement which proposes plebiscite also says that Pakistan shall withdraw its forces from Azad Kashmir. So it is the time for you to withdraw your forces if you want a plebiscite.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Interesting. What do you understand by Chanakyan methodology ?

i've done some reading about it in order to understand - or at least try to understand - the inner thoughts mindset and narrative of our arch-foes.

I'll be more than happy to discuss it in another thread at a time of YOUR choosing

 

[Icewolf]

I am not sure of angels but am 100% sure unwanted men from around the world dont find India as paradise

Oh... So mukti bahini leader and LTTE leader must be angels in the eyes of the world right

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

By overwhelmingly voting in elections, Kashmiris have proven it again and again that they are as much part of India as other Indians.

by voting in a party which calls for self-autonomy and which refuses to toe new delhis line on a plethora of issues....a reason why members of the BJP and RSS are burning and calling for the so-called "political alliance" to end!!

by voting in order to keep the radical BJP mad-men out from majority

given the givens, have they proven what you claim?

 

[HariPrasad]

by voting in a party which calls for self-autonomy and which refuses to toe new delhis line on a plethora of issues....a reason why members of the BJP and RSS are burning and calling for the so-called "political alliance" to end!!

by voting in order to keep the radical BJP mad-men out from majority

given the givens, have they proven what you claim?

Do you know BJP got highest numbers of vote inspite of PDP getting 3 more seats? This indicates the rise of nationalism in Kashmir.
Do you know BJP got highest ever seats in J & K.

70% people have taken part in election inspite of threat from Pakistan based terrorist group. Infact IOK Kashmirs ridiculed the Pakistani stand and Pakistani militant threat. They ignored the so called hurriyat leaders' call for election boycott. . Terrorism lost to democracy. You can simply cry. You can make some boys to waive Pakistani flags by paying some money or send some of your own innocent brainwashed boys to Kashmir to be the shooting practice of Indian army. You can not do anything else. You can continue to play a loosing game. We have devised a minimum collateral damage policy. Ultimately, like TTP, militants trained for insurgency shall know the truth and shall be against Pakistan like TTP does.

 

[New Resolve]

I am not sure of angels but am 100% sure unwanted men from around the world dont find India as paradise

A wanted man is your Prime Minister, doesnt get worse then that.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Do you know BJP got highest numbers of vote inspite of PDP getting 3 more seats? This indicates the rise of nationalism in Kashmir.

whenever I hear the word "nationalism" coming from indian - i always get a chuckle. Lets see that 56 centimeters of height....i'm sorry, 56 inches of chest

Even Omar Abdullah (whom most of us and many Kashmiris considered a puppet) is on record stating and i quote him "rejects arguments from Delhi that the high voter turnout signalled growing faith in Indian democracy"

Do you know BJP got highest ever seats in J & K.

on a purely communal basis where non-Muslims (who form a tiny minority in occupied Kashmir) reside mostly

BJP performed better than it has in the past - but not well enough to get the seats needed to govern the state.

70% people have taken part in election inspite of threat from Pakistan based terrorist group....... Infact IOK Kashmirs ridiculed the Pakistani stand and Pakistani militant threat. They ignored the so called hurriyat leaders' call for election boycott. . Terrorism lost to democracy.

calling for a boycott of elections is I guess considered by indian lackeys and keyboard ANAL-ysts as a "terroristic threat"

what a logic, i tell you

You can make some boys to waive Pakistani flags by paying some money or send some of your own innocent brainwashed boys to Kashmir to be the shooting practice of Indian army.

it's been going on for decades, nothing new. We dont need to pay money for Kashmiris - especially those in the valley - to raise Pakistan flags or shout slogans like "Pakistan Zindabad" or "Kashmir baneyga Pakistan"....they've been doing it for ages now, nothing new really I
reiterate

You can not do anything else. You can continue to play a loosing game. We have devised a minimum collateral damage policy

92,000 Kashmiris killed since just 1989 alone. Judicial murders, enforced disappearances, mass rape of women (including a recent public stripping and sodomy of a Kashmiri Muslim woman in broad daylight by the cowardly indian police forces there, just last week). Such a "minimum collateral damage policy" - it's worked real well for you guys hasn't it

try it in the States that actually DO belong to india then - the 21 states where indians are at war with themselves

 

[tarrar]

Is Baluchistan a disputed territory?

Has India ever laid any claim on Baluchistan?

Now laugh on yourself.

Unfortunately we have emotionally retarded people.

 

[HariPrasad]

It was bound to happen. I knew gullible Pakistanis won't be able to respond to my criticism rationally and logically. That's why I entered the debate in the first place to expose their lies, hypocrisy and double standards.

You did an excellent Job. As hasan Nisar and Tarek fatah says, they have bought up their generations feeding lies. Taek fatah said " by chance some pakistani says truth when he is drunk". They can not speak truth if they are normal and not drunk.

 

[B@KH]

You did an excellent Job. As hasan Nisar and Tarek fatah says, they have bought up their generations feeding lies. Taek fatah said " by chance some pakistani says truth when he is drunk". They can not speak truth if they are normal and not drunk.

This applies to the wahabi+Israeli mafia wether they are Pakistani or Indian. this is common disease.

Therefore please do not generalize it to normal Pakistanis.

Kashmiris infact need New and Sincere Leaders who could really give some solution to the problems of their people instead of passing out time and putting hopes on others for solution.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

You did an excellent Job. As hasan Nisar and Tarek fatah says, they have bought up their generations feeding lies. Taek fatah said " by chance some pakistani says truth when he is drunk". They can not speak truth if they are normal and not drunk.

Tarek Fatah may be your ideal or indian ideal since he shares the same belligerent temperament and inability to debate properly (one reason why he's lost so many friends that he's forced to run to indians of all people) -- but he's not ours and we dont care for flip-floppers like him (I can name at least 5-6 instances of the top of my head where he flip-flopped his views on different viewpoints)....his past will always haunt him (just like Hussain Haqqani, once a protege of the right-wing religious groups). And that's why VERY FEW people except a few lotas across the border will shower him with praise.

helps to be a bit more informed......i say the same thing about you guys when you quote that enthusiastic, rambunctious C. Christine Fair or even Stephen Cohen of Brookings in DC!!!

but hey - we all have bills to pay, only some do it at the cost of their credibility

C. Fair - kicked out and disgraced from RAND Corp. thinktank and after several years of "hard, enthusiastic work" and clearly a knack for learning a few words in Punjabi and Urdu - still just an "Assistant professor" at the end of the day

during my time in DC i met 24 year olds who have accomplished a helluva lot more than that

Is Baluchistan a disputed territory?

Has India ever laid any claim on Baluchistan?

Now laugh on yourself.

the indians and other vested interest groups in Washington DC and other so-called 'power centers' have pumped millions of dollars to confuse and mis-state what are really just socio-economic and law & order issues in Balochistan Province.

wasted efforts.....no international body that wields any weight or influence considers it a disputed territory; same ones which dont consider Manipur, Orissa, UP, West Bengal, Jharkand, Mizoram, Assam, Nagaland etc. as "disputed" territories in india

MOST importantly and what matters the MOST - most Baloch dont consider it as "disputed" either which is why Baloch are largely pro Pakistan and which is why out of the 28 districts of Balochistan - only 2 have any major presence of the BLA/BRA terrorists who try to engage in acts of sabotage or murder of civilians (poor labourers and female professors among them)

indians just losing valuable tax money on "causes" and lobbying efforts when the same money could help at least some of the 600 million indians who are dirt poor and still defecate out in the open

 

[HariPrasad]

whenever I hear the word "nationalism" coming from indian - i always get a chuckle. Lets see that 56 centimeters of height....i'm sorry, 56 inches of chest

Even Omar Abdullah (whom most of us and many Kashmiris considered a puppet) is on record stating and i quote him "rejects arguments from Delhi that the high voter turnout signalled growing faith in Indian democracy"

You need to live in a real democracy to understand that. Obviously your criterion for democracy is different.

calling for a boycott of elections is I guess considered by indian lackeys and keyboard ANAL-ysts as a "terroristic threat"

what a logic, i tell you

That is your misconception. You missed a core point here is that they ignored the huriyat guys advise. Huriyat people call themselves the representatives of people but no one in kashmir consider them leaders. The are Just A** Holes.

it's been going on for decades, nothing new. We dont need to pay money for Kashmiris - especially those in the valley - to raise Pakistan flags or shout slogans like "Pakistan Zindabad" or "Kashmir baneyga Pakistan"....they've been doing it for ages now, nothing new really I
reiterate

I heared a pakistani media show in which one anchor was saying that Pakisna support of Just 1% IOK kashmiris. Those are just handful of paid people.

Kashmiris infact need New and Sincere Leaders who could really give some solution to the problems of their people instead of passing out time and putting hopes on others to give them solution.

Actual problem of Kashmir is Islamic fundamentalism and not any regional problem. It will get solved when other Islamic fundamentalism problems are solved. Actually they need to live with Hindus like other Muslims to get deradicalised.

Tarek Fatah may be your ideal or indian ideal since he shares the same belligerent temperament and inability to debate properly (one reason why he's lost so many friends that he's forced to run to indians of all people) -- but he's not ours and we dont care for flip-floppers like him (I can name at least 5-6 instances of the top of my head where he flip-flopped his views on different viewpoints)....his past will always haunt him (just like Hussain Haqqani, once a protege of the right-wing religious groups). And that's why VERY FEW people except a few lotas across the border will shower him with praise.

helps to be a bit more informed......i say the same thing about you guys when you quote that enthusiastic, rambunctious C. Christine Fair or even Stephen Cohen of Brookings in DC!!!

but hey - we all have bills to pay, only some do it at the cost of their credibility

I have not seen any guy debating to the point as he is. you may not like him because he exposes some unknown truth about Pakistan.

92,000 Kashmiris killed since just 1989 alone. Judicial murders, enforced disappearances, mass rape of women

I think you have replaced word Kashmir in place of Baluchistan. This again remind me Hasan Nisar who says that Hamne apani aulado ko juth pe pala hai. When you see this is happening in Your country, you make stories that same thing happen in India. Had this been the case, so called separatists would have disappeared from Kashmir long back.

You are definitely not married to some Kotli sister! One of my teachers is from KOTLI madrassa, so stop your LIES! One of my friends is from KOTLI,

@Norwegian
Now this Idiot will decide whether your wife belongs to Kotli or not. The height of idiocy.

 

[Dash]

Pakistanis still fail to understand Indian mind.