Pakistan to get 5,600MW electricity under CPEC

[Shotgunner51]

India

NEW DELHI/MUMBAI (Reuters) - India's $100 billion push into solar energy over the next decade will be driven by foreign players as UN-competitive local manufacturers fall by the wayside, no longer protected by government restrictions on the sector.


The money pouring into India's solar industry is likely to be soaked up by foreign-organized projects such as one run by China's Trina Solar - not the country's own solar panel manufacturers.

India, in contrast to Chinese and German efforts to protect local producers, has scrapped most restrictions on where equipment that turns sunshine into energy is bought. Last year, it dropped an anti-dumping duty on panel import.

Maharishi Solar, It stopped producing solar panels a few years back as it could not compete with foreign manufacturers, primarily Chinese. Shrivastava said import panels are as much as 45 percent cheaper thanks to subsidies in their home countries and lower borrowing costs.

Conclusion
Chinese investments in Pakistan are bad, but same Chinese money invested in India is good.

Good one bro!


Trina Solar (天合光能) is one of many leading solar energy firms in China, with advanced tech and good scale of production/sales. The panels are not cheaper but way most cost effective due to advanced tech, check their websites for details.

trinasolar.com/cn/
trinasolar.com/us/index.html​

Contrary to Shrivastava's claim, there is no subsidy for production, nor anything on exports. The only subsidy is on domestic installation of solar energy, which varies between provinces, as part of the efforts to encourage investment of clean energy.

 

[Viny]

India

NEW DELHI/MUMBAI (Reuters) - India's $100 billion push into solar energy over the next decade will be driven by foreign players as UN-competitive local manufacturers fall by the wayside, no longer protected by government restrictions on the sector.


The money pouring into India's solar industry is likely to be soaked up by foreign-organized projects such as one run by China's Trina Solar - not the country's own solar panel manufacturers.

India, in contrast to Chinese and German efforts to protect local producers, has scrapped most restrictions on where equipment that turns sunshine into energy is bought. Last year, it dropped an anti-dumping duty on panel import.

Maharishi Solar, It stopped producing solar panels a few years back as it could not compete with foreign manufacturers, primarily Chinese. Shrivastava said import panels are as much as 45 percent cheaper thanks to subsidies in their home countries and lower borrowing costs.

Conclusion
Chinese investments in Pakistan are bad, but same Chinese money invested in India is good.

Dear friend,
India already has opened FDI upto 100% only in Renewal and Thermal Energy Sector.

I hope you have read the Jawaharlal Nehru National Solar Mission Guidelines

2.4 Number of Applications by a Company
In order to have wider participation from Solar Power Developers, only one application per Company including its
Parent, Affiliate or Ultimate Parent-or any Group Company shall be permitted for development of one project of 5 MW
±5% size using a Solar PV Project.

D. Domestic Content

One of the important objectives of the National Solar Mission is to promote domestic manufacturing. In view of this, the
developers are expected to procure their project components from domestic manufacturers, as far as possible.
However, in the case of Solar PV Projects to be selected in first batch during FY 2010-11, it will be mandatory for
Projects based on crystalline silicon technology to use the modules manufactured in India. For Solar PV Projects to be
selected in second batch during FY 2011-12, it will be mandatory for all the Projects to use cells and modules
manufactured in India

Source: http://www.mnre.gov.in/file-manager/UserFiles/jnnsm_gridconnected_25072010.pdf


Now read about National Solar Mission Phase 2 domestic content requirements in following document
http://mnre.gov.in/file-manager/UserFiles/Draft-Guidelines-for-1500 MW NSM-Ph_II- Batch_II.pdf

India is neither dependent on single country nor it allows single company to play monopoly games. Domestic content requirement is still there which will help in building domestic industry as well as invite local private players. Currently the domestic production is not meeting the requirements and thus we have to import to get projects running at time.

Dont just eat what media says...try to see the realities too.

 

[mr42O]

And most of it will be from coal and thats not good

 

[RoadRunner401]

Dear friend,
India already has opened FDI upto 100% only in Renewal and Thermal Energy Sector.

I hope you have read the Jawaharlal Nehru National Solar Mission Guidelines

2.4 Number of Applications by a Company
In order to have wider participation from Solar Power Developers, only one application per Company including its
Parent, Affiliate or Ultimate Parent-or any Group Company shall be permitted for development of one project of 5 MW
±5% size using a Solar PV Project.

D. Domestic Content

One of the important objectives of the National Solar Mission is to promote domestic manufacturing. In view of this, the
developers are expected to procure their project components from domestic manufacturers, as far as possible.
However, in the case of Solar PV Projects to be selected in first batch during FY 2010-11, it will be mandatory for
Projects based on crystalline silicon technology to use the modules manufactured in India. For Solar PV Projects to be
selected in second batch during FY 2011-12, it will be mandatory for all the Projects to use cells and modules
manufactured in India

Source: http://www.mnre.gov.in/file-manager/UserFiles/jnnsm_gridconnected_25072010.pdf


Now read about National Solar Mission Phase 2 domestic content requirements in following document
http://mnre.gov.in/file-manager/UserFiles/Draft-Guidelines-for-1500 MW NSM-Ph_II- Batch_II.pdf

India is neither dependent on single country nor it allows single company to play monopoly games. Domestic content requirement is still there which will help in building domestic industry as well as invite local private players. Currently the domestic production is not meeting the requirements and thus we have to import to get projects running at time.

Dont just eat what media says...try to see the realities too.

I am not in treated in measuring contest ,if you don't wanna discuss reality and live in lala land more power to you. If you are intrested in reality. I will be more then happy to reply.

 

[Mo12]

Pakistan needs to diversify its FDI.

Having China do all the work is very dangerous.

 

[salarsikander]

Pakistan needs to diversify its FDI.

Having China do all the work is very dangerous.

Hi,

My hearts melt at your advices on the fact that Chinese investment to Pakistan is very harmful

Coming too rich from a person who belongs to a nation that is sworn enemy and is advising us against the friends who was always there for us.

 

[Viny]

I am not in treated in measuring contest ,if you don't wanna discuss reality and live in lala land more power to you. If you are intrested in reality. I will be more then happy to reply.

Come out of lala land, what i have shared is you the reality from horse mouth. Read those guideliness from Govt of India to figure out what are the rules of game. And if you interested in depth, open up a thread and i would be more than happy to reply.

 

[RoadRunner401]

Come out of lala land, what i have shared is you the reality from horse mouth. Read those guideliness from Govt of India to figure out what are the rules of game. And if you interested in depth, open up a thread and i would be more than happy to reply.

India's $100 billion push into solar energy over the next decade will be driven by foreign players as uncompetitive local manufacturers fall by the wayside, no longer protected by government restrictions on the sector.

The money pouring into India's solar industry is likely to be soaked up by foreign-organised projects such as one run by China's Trina Solar - not the country's own solar panel manufacturers.

Last week, Softbank became the latest foreign player to enter India's solar market, leading an investment of up to $20 billion. The Japanese firm said it would consider making solar panels locally, but with Taiwan's Foxconn rather than a local manufacturer.

Many Indian solar panel producers have benefited over the past six months from a surge in demand for panels not yet fulfilled by foreign companies. But their small scale and outdated technology will quickly make itself felt when the global players arrive.

"The smaller manufacturers of India, especially the cell manufacturers, will be adversely hit because they are unable to compete both on technology and even on price structures," said Jasmeet Khurana at solar consultancy Bridge To India.

India's solar panel makers can no longer turn to the Indian government for help. The government is more concerned about creating jobs quickly and ensuring plentiful power supply in a country known for its many blackouts.

India's $100 billion solar push draws foreign firms as locals take backseat| Reuters

Is this clear enough for you.

 

[I FLY HIGH]

And most of it will be from coal and thats not good

for PTI , coal is not good , furnace oil is not good, solar is too expensive , Neelan jehlum is too expensive , nuclear is a threat to karachi. so get a laltain and got it filled with kerosine oil .

 

[Viny]

If only education was good for you, comprehension would have been not so difficult, let me try to help you.

India's $100 billion push into solar energy over the next decade will be driven by foreign players as uncompetitive local manufacturers fall by the wayside, no longer protected by government restrictions on the sector

No longer protected by government restriction on the sector means FDI can have 100% investment via automatic route and there is no more government cap or restriction on investment in the given sector. This doesnt mean that India has given free hand of do what ever you want to do. There are set of guideliness that they need to follow which include the requirment of have domestic content. I already shared those guideliness in previous post, but you decided to ignore them as that didnt meet your bashing objective.

Last week, Softbank became the latest foreign player to enter India's solar market, leading an investment of up to $20 billion. The Japanese firm said it would consider making solar panels locally, but with Taiwan's Foxconn rather than a local manufacturer.

Japanese firm is going to buy solar panels that are made locally, this meets the guideliness of domestic manufacturing requirements. Re read the point 2.4

2.4. Domestic Content

One of the important objectives of the National Solar Mission is to promote domestic manufacturing. In view of this, the developers are expected to procure their project components from domestic manufacturers, as far as possible.

However, in the case of Solar PV Projects to be selected in first batch during FY 2010-11, it will be mandatory for
Projects based on crystalline silicon technology to use the modules manufactured in India. For Solar PV Projects to be
selected in second batch during FY 2011-12, it will be mandatory for all the Projects to use cells and modules
manufactured in India.

Now that Japanese firm is making the solar panels locally with tiawan foxcon, it meets the requirement of domestic manufacturing.

Many Indian solar panel producers have benefited over the past six months from a surge in demand for panels not yet fulfilled by foreign companies. But their small scale and outdated technology will quickly make itself felt when the global players arrive.

"The smaller manufacturers of India, especially the cell manufacturers, will be adversely hit because they are unable to compete both on technology and even on price structures," said Jasmeet Khurana at solar consultancy Bridge To India.

India's solar panel makers can no longer turn to the Indian government for help. The government is more concerned about creating jobs quickly and ensuring plentiful power supply in a country known for its many blackouts.

India's $100 billion solar push draws foreign firms as locals take backseat| Reuters

Is this clear enough for you.

Well its market and business norms that you have to compete globally, Indian government gave almost 5yrs of safeguarded run for the industry, many players have emerged and many will fall out, thats what nature of industry, survival of fittest. Solar Technology has changed and improved very fast in last decade, and thus those who are not able to keep up with updates will have to perish, but at same time many will get the opportunities too.

Hence a selective quote has to be filtered out, it cannot be taken as voice of the entire industry.
None the less this is a competitive sector and Indian government will not be able to provide umberalla for long term given the nature of global business requirements.

I hope thats clear enough for you, reading just an article and making views wont help in discussion if you dont have knowledge of industry. Please read the government guidelines and then the industry report, that will help you.

No doubt there is huge gap between demand and supply and sooner or later government will be force to relax norms to meet the demands of waffers and silicon.