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Pakistan to fence border, demands Iran to take action against terrorist groups of Ormara killings

This could have been said when it was only an attack.
But this time Foreign Ministry is saying that the terrorists are operating from Iran.

Yes, and there are terrorists who operate from Pakistan and go and hit iran.
Does that mean they are being supported by Pakistan?

What logic will you conjure up to iran having its own "state sponsored" terrorists go and blow up something in Pakistan just ahead of an official visit by the state leader? Do you see any logic in that?

Or do you people leave your logic down the gutter when you start thinking about the world politics?
 
Last time I checked worlds largest terrorist country(bharat aka india) was still their ……..

Well you can say whatever you want here in PDF to satisfy your ego, but does that make any change in the world perception ?? :azn:

Ironically it's not India who is running around the world giving justification that we don't support terrorists and terrorism.:-)
 
"The information about the hubs of these Baloch terrorist organisations in Iran, having training camps and logistics bases across the border, was shared with Iranian intelligence in the recent past, and on a number of occasions earlier," the letter read. "Unfortunately, no action has been taken by Iran in this regard, to date."

Pakistan awaits Iran's response to its request for action against these groups based in Iran, whose locations have been identified by Pakistan a number of times."

Thats the most important part of this news.
This shows that whatever Iran claims publicly about terroist activities, but in reality is in cahoots with India to spread terror in Pakistan.
We should remember their monkey Kalbhoshan Jadav operated from Iran for many years.
 
This is a big big lie from Pakistanis.

Iran is not a criminal in case of Kalbhushan. He only came to Iran on Visa, and then slipped to Baluchistan.

It is just like any terrorist could slip to Pakistan from the Afghan border too, and it will partially also count as failure of Pakistani forces for not able to arrest the people illegally crossing the border.

Even Pakistan is sending Jihadis of Hafiz Saeed from Indian borders too in Kashmir.

Therefore, if Kalbhusan slipped from Pak/Iran borders, then Iran is not directly responsible for it. Unfortunately, the Pakistani brothers don't want to see the real fact, but only want to show their anger against Iran.
And what excuse you have about Terrorist leader Uzair Baloch arrested from UAE holding Iranian passport.
FYI he just didnt slip to Pakistan after arriving in Iran, he made multiple visits over the course of many years.
You are just parroting Indian propaganda of sending Jihadis to India. That was stopped by Musharraf after 9/11. What would you say about Iranian support/ direct intervention in regional countries (Iraq, Syria, Yemen etc)

Just to be clear I support Pak and Iran working together but for this Iran needs to stop Indian terror infrastructure from operating against Pak from its soil.
 
I do not blame everyone or all hence, allow me to partially disagree with you on this. My understanding is there are intolerant people when religion is being referred and then, there is a set of people that do know diplomacy, geo-strategy, geopolitics and core values/true teachings of religion. However, I do agree that diplomatic incompetence may harm in long run if did not understand in time. Pakistan has been through the same age where we had the most incompetent lot mixed/influenced by highly intolerant extremists which damaged us for a long time.

You don't have to partially disagree, you can completely disagree, you are entitled to your opinion. What you cannot ignore or deny is the innocent lives of Pakistani soldiers being lost again and again, on the Eastern border, or the following:

Zainabiyooun Shia canon fodder Militia

https://jamestown.org/program/the-z...tani-shiite-militia-amid-the-syrian-conflict/

http://afghanistan.asia-news.com/en_GB/articles/cnmi_st/features/2019/01/29/feature-01

http://pakistan.asia-news.com/en_GB/articles/cnmi_pf/features/2018/10/05/feature-02

http://nation.com.pk/17-Sep-2017/iran-recruits-afghan-and-pakistani-shiites-to-fight-in-syria

Gen Bajwa's shut up call
https://goo.gl/sXqXuo

Afgahani Shia canon fodder militia Fatimiyoun

https://goo.gl/vz3472

Drug Lord & Gangster Uzair Baluch's confession in court about being an Irani spy
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1526890/uzair-baloch-spills-beans/

Drug Lord & Gangster Baba Ladla's iranian national id card

Baba Ladla Irani.JPG




Secondly, this mullah faqih business has brought nothing but death and destruction, where ever it has exported, be it Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen etc PLEASE show me ONE country that has benefited from their sick ideology.

Note: I do not condemn Shias or their religion, but this "villayat e faqih" business, that poped up after 1979. Prior to that Iran was a very open and peaceful country, with friendly relations with all its neighbors.
 
Note: I do not condemn Shias or their religion, but this "villayat e faqih" business, that poped up after 1979. Prior to that Iran was a very open and peaceful country, with friendly relations with all its neighbors.

Afghanistan imposed a harsh brand of communism in the 1970s in a deeply tribal Islamic country. Iran brought a harsh brand of Islam in a fairly westernized country in 1979.

Wonderful choices!

Despite some flirtations with Bhutto's 'socialism' or Zia's Islamic rule in 1970s/80s, at least Pakistan didn't go too far--and hence Pakistan stood the storms post 9/11 and in my opinion is getting stronger.

Morale of the story: All freedom to all groups inside, allow representation of all pressure groups, allow evolutionary progress... Pakistan may not have scored 10/10 on these but is not too bad on them either.
 
Which ISPR statement?

Why are you running away from bringing your proof of ISPR statement here so that we could also benefit from it?

Is it not a sign of a liar and hypocrite when one make claims but never brings proofs for it?

If I provide proof, will you quit the forum?
 
Why should I quit the forum?

I have then to accept my mistake and apologize for less informations.

But what when your provided proof is only twisted one and does not answer the objections that I rose in the main thread about Uzair/Kalbhushan here.

Now what do you have to say?


Rawalpindi- April 12 2017


DG ISPR Tweet

Uzair Baloch taken into military custody under Pakistan Army Act / Official Secret Act - 1923. On charges of espionage (Leakage of sensitive security information to foreign intelligence agencies).

https://www.pakistanarmy.gov.pk/AWPReview/pDetails1daf.html





Uzair Baloch taken into military custody: ISPR
https://www.dawn.com/news/1326325

https://nation.com.pk/12-Apr-2017/uzair-baloch-taken-into-custody-ispr

Uzair Baloch taken into military custody on charges of espionage: ISPR
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/1...military-custody-on-charges-of-espionage-ISPR
 
And don't you understand that it is that yours own previous behaviour due to which Pakistan has become alone

The higlighted part shows your ignorance on Pakistan. Do shed the Indian lense of so called isolation of Pakistan and than ask if Pakistan is alone?

This incident was orchestrated to make him cancel that very visit. And you want him to do exactly what was expected?
Do you guys use your brains some times?
Its high time we stop appeasing others for the sake of it. Whether it was such a huge conspiracy to stop IK from going there or was it indeed real, fact it Pakistanis lost their lives and the fact that your government has openly called and demanded action from Iran means that its not just a fucking conspiracy but actual involvement of actors tracked back to Iran. Use your brain on that.
 
You don't have to partially disagree, you can completely disagree, you are entitled to your opinion. What you cannot ignore or deny is the innocent lives of Pakistani soldiers being lost again and again, on the Eastern border, or the following:

Zainabiyooun Shia canon fodder Militia

https://jamestown.org/program/the-z...tani-shiite-militia-amid-the-syrian-conflict/

http://afghanistan.asia-news.com/en_GB/articles/cnmi_st/features/2019/01/29/feature-01

http://pakistan.asia-news.com/en_GB/articles/cnmi_pf/features/2018/10/05/feature-02

http://nation.com.pk/17-Sep-2017/iran-recruits-afghan-and-pakistani-shiites-to-fight-in-syria

Gen Bajwa's shut up call
https://goo.gl/sXqXuo

Afgahani Shia canon fodder militia Fatimiyoun

https://goo.gl/vz3472

Drug Lord & Gangster Uzair Baluch's confession in court about being an Irani spy
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1526890/uzair-baloch-spills-beans/

Drug Lord & Gangster Baba Ladla's iranian national id card

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Secondly, this mullah faqih business has brought nothing but death and destruction, where ever it has exported, be it Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen etc PLEASE show me ONE country that has benefited from their sick ideology.

Note: I do not condemn Shias or their religion, but this "villayat e faqih" business, that poped up after 1979. Prior to that Iran was a very open and peaceful country, with friendly relations with all its neighbors.

After all this evidence, i would be hypocrite if i call Iran as brother.
 

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