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Pakistan to be among 30 top countries by 2018, Iran 4th, in Research

dont u think we can do thta? instead of fighting & pulling each others legs
For that more papers should be published in Chinese and Indian journals but special concern should be their on the editor in chief, editorial team, reviewer, , strict review and fast process.
 
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i dont agree with you if that was the thinking of small europe than they coulnt rule the whole world even with fighting each others in longest wars of time......and even when Asia was ruling the world but just see how things hav changes & those Europeans who beg Asia for resources are again ruling the world we should change our mind set that we cannt do any thing.

Thats because they are fully developed economies, they got development before us. When we r fully developed we will see whose boss. Pakistan has 6th largest population. I am sure it willl one day have 6th largest economy too. if u guys dont phuck things upp.
 
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An international forecast for research output has shown that Pakistan will be among top 30 countries of the world in research by 2018. Scimago, an independent research organisation and an international evaluation and ranking platform, has projected in its recent publication how the world will perform in research by 2018 based on their past performance. The top 50 countries are included in the forecast.

China becomes the number one country in the world by 2018 in terms of research output; however three countries, which stand out and show the most drastic increase in numbers and rankings are Iran, Malaysia and Pakistan. Iran moves ahead from number 19 to number 4, Malaysia from 30 to 13, and Pakistan from 43 to 27. The expected output of research in Pakistan moving up 16 notches, which is the second highest increase world-wide, is primarily due to the innovative higher education policies and reforms taking place in Pakistan under the Higher Education Commission (HEC).

During the last few years, in addition to quality reforms, there has been a strong resurgence of research and innovation. In particular, there is a significant growth in the number of PhDs awarded out of Pakistani universities. The numbers speak for themselves. In the first 55 years since Pakistan's independence, a total of 3281 PhDs were awarded at Pakistani universities. However, since the establishment of the HEC in 2002, over 4000 PhDs have been awarded to-date, which is more than what was awarded in the previous 55 years.

There is a renewed focus on engineering and technology, agriculture, biological sciences, business education and social sciences, which are relevant subjects important for the socio-economic development of Pakistan. There is a zero tolerance policy on plagiarism, where every research paper, thesis and dissertation must be scrutinised by anti-plagiarism software before submission. All thesis and dissertation must be evaluated by at least two foreign referees in academically advanced countries in the relevant area of research.

Despite having very limited funds, HEC supports many research initiatives through different types of grants, including split PhDs, post-doctoral fellowships, foreign faculty programmes, hosting conferences and to present papers anywhere in the world, to name only a few. It is primarily due to this new flourishing research culture at the higher education institutions that the number of international research publications with impact factor has increased drastically.

While 816 impact factor papers were published in 2002, it has now increased to over 6300 in 2011, with the largest numbers of publications in areas of relevance to economic development. And at the rate Pakistanis are publishing their research papers, Scimago forecasts that by 2018, the research output will exceed 29,661.

While no university was ranked in the top universities of the world three years back, according to the most recent QS Asian Universities Rankings 2012, there are now six Pakistani universities that are ranked among the top 300 universities. Similarly, according to QS World Universities Ranking 2011, two Pakistani universities are ranked among the top 300 technology universities of the world. This is another achievement and recognition that has been widely acknowledged.

Performance in research: Pakistan to be among 30 top countries by 2018: Scimago | Business Recorder

Searched for India in article, but could not find it....WIll India be in second?

Sure than Iran and turkey will be in top places.
 
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^^ Any links bro? I don't believe India has 12% graduates of the world, and I certaintly don't believe you'll overtake USA in 2014.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18646423
here u go dude, the two most populus countries will produce 40-50 % of world grads by 2020. India already produces close to 1 million engineers. Now since india has a huge base of undergrads, time to come to invest heavily in graduate and produce factories for production of phds and and masters. Manmohan singh has promised to increase education budget by 3 times soon.
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u still think iran can produce more papers with less than 2% of grads when india and china are producing 40% of worlds grads.
 
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loll India is doing that. What is pakistan waiting for. India in 2-3 yrs is expected to be 3rd largest investor in r&d and science. it is already 6th. Moreover R&d cost in india is cheaper than west. So we can do more with less money. Ibm right now has more employers in india than they are in usa. its funny right. Maybe 10 yrs from now, Ibm will belong to India.

thts wht i said Pakistan trying best already, & India alone cannt do any thing, i said instead of pulling each others leg means we should all work together than we can create impact remember without Pakistan,s support indian cannt even reach China's level & dont think US will always support india aginst china, we need to work with each others to decrease western influence......

I must say its great western sucess tht stil we are fighting with each others & see west for help & trade....
 
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Germany was a 100 % educated society. They are an industrialized country.
Hence after the war, they just had to rebuild themselves.
They didn't have to worry about extremism, separatism, education, illiteracy, sectarianism and blah blah.
We in South Asia have a long way to go because there is significant amount of illiteracy in our society.
We have to build ourselves brick by brick and not look for some injection for power paced development.
China is a better model for us.
Its been doing well for decades and is still a developing country.
In the coming years it will be a developed country.
We can follow that track with a lot of discipline but its not possible for us to emulate the German model because all they had to do was bounce back.

Iran can be developed once the sanctions are over.
However, they will have to losen the grip of the Mullahs in their society and power structure.
Not really. Considering that NAZI Germany within 6 years became a world power from being a bankrupt nation in 1933 with the largest number of unemployed to a economic powerhouse and nationwide labor shortage by 1938 as well as the worlds most technologically advanced nation , you can't underestimate the potential of a nation. If only Pakistan could have a leader like Adolf Hitler we'd become number one in research within 2 years.

Hopefully Pakistan continues on this path (InshaAllah) and the brain power is used in house rather than outsourced.
 
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thts wht i said Pakistan trying best already, & India alone cannt do any thing, i said instead of pulling each others leg means we should all work together than we can create impact remember without Pakistan,s support indian cannt even reach China's level & dont think US will always support india aginst china, we need to work with each others to decrease western influence......

I must say its great western sucess tht stil we are fighting with each others & see west for help & trade....

I am all up for india-pakistan cooperation.
 
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Not going to happen. This has been discussed before anyways. There is no way Iran's reasearch output will be more than Germany's in 6 years time.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/iranian-defence/180028-iran-science-output-future-9.html
Each day they are becoming self sufficient. they have good plan and brilliant universities which is closely working with industries.
For example thier students are the one developing satellites. And thier patriotism is at peak. Recently when one of thier scietist assasinated thousands of students registered saying they will want to swtich the branch to nuclear science.
 
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What about the quality of this research output by these emerging countries?

You should not be bedazzled so easily with the presented figures.

It's a good thing developing countries are trying to cope in the scientific world but a critical examination of this development should not be ignored.

Money can’t buy quality research

By: Athar Osama
Published on SciDev.Net on 12 January 2012



Some Muslim countries’ powerful financial incentives to make quick progress in research could backfire, cautions Athar Osama.


Over a decade ago, several governments in the Islamic world woke up from decades of slumber to begin investing heavily in science and innovation. A funding boost helped set up new universities, enhance research grants, and send thousands of students to do PhDs in the developed world.

The regulators and ministries that rolled out these ambitious efforts cautioned against judging their effectiveness and viability too soon, pointing to the limited scientific capacity in these countries. It was popular to say, ‘let’s build a critical mass (quantity) first and worry about raising the standard (quality) later’.

But there was clearly something amiss: some policies seemed either deficient or simply wrong-minded. And evidence of this is beginning to pile up.

Evidence of misguided priorities

The picture emerging is one of a mindless race to secure international publications and increase university rankings using ‘shopping sprees’ for highly cited academics, plagiarism and even outright academic fraud.

A recent article published in Science highlights a practice, prevalent in at least a couple of Saudi Universities, of engaging prolific academics on so-called part-time contracts that pay handsomely in exchange for spending a couple of weeks on campus — and, critically, on condition that the university name is added to their ISI (Institute for Scientific Information) index profiles. The index is one of the factors included in world university rankings.

This results in an artificially higher number of papers published by that university, and hence a higher ranking.

The article notes that this practice is similar to UK universities ‘shopping’ for prolific scientists just before research quality assessments, in order to ensure a higher evaluation and funding for future research.

But there is a fundamental difference: while one may question the timing of UK universities hiring a prolific scientist, it is not a fraudulent practice in and of itself. But claiming credit for a scientist who does not engage in meaningful research with researchers at the university in question, or using work unaffiliated with the university to bump up rankings, is certainly suspect.

Plagiarism and academic fraud

Seemingly sensible policies — such as encouraging academics to publish more — can also backfire if they are badly designed or implemented.

In Pakistan, a strong emphasis by the country’s Higher Education Commission (HEC) on a “publish and get paid” policy has created a culture of plagiarism and academic fraud, according to preliminary evidence that appeared recently in the Pakistani press.

Writing in a reputed English language national daily, Isa Daudpota, a senior administrator at Air University in Islamabad, alleges to have collected evidence of a fraudulent publishing racket that involves “international” and “peer-reviewed” journals, most of which are electronic. [2]

Although many are based in Africa, among other places, in reality they were created and run by Pakistani academics and their ‘friends’ abroad, says Daudpota.

These fraudulent journals may contain suspect or even fictitious names on their editorial boards, or may use names without permission. And participating academics can publish or even review their own work by nominating a non-existent professor as a reviewer.


Analysing the CVs of HEC-approved professors, Daudpota finds preliminary evidence that some professors (mainly having done their PhDs at local universities with relatively lax standards) are more likely to publish in such journals. But so far, the HEC appears to be treating these revelations as isolated cases rather than a systemic problem.

No shortcuts

Muslim countries are not alone in using financial incentives to increase their publishing performance. China and India — two emerging scientific powers — also struggle with similar challenges. [3-5]

Financial incentives also lead to more publications in the industrialised world. But research by Franzoni and colleagues suggests they encourage submissions regardless of quality, while career incentives improve the quality of scientific papers. [6]

In the developing world, where the norms of quality and integrity have yet to take root, policymakers have a responsibility to enforce scientific integrity and ethics.

First, instances of misguided use of financial incentives, plagiarism, and academic fraud must be tackled with zero tolerance and exemplary punishments to individuals and institutions. This would set a precedent and send a message that it does not pay to cheat.

And rather than being treated as isolated instances, such cases should be probed for systemic problems that may tarnish a country’s academic reputation in the long term.

Second, future policies aimed at promoting scientific research must consider unintended consequences. Quality must come first, even if quantity and speed of reforms are compromised, and intrinsic motivators such as the satisfaction of creating new knowledge must be preferred over financial rewards.

Many aspiring governments in the Muslim world are eager to invest in science, and naturally, expect to reap rewards. But they must realise that there is no shortcut to joining the world’s scientific elite.

There are many things money can buy overnight, but the ability to carry out quality scientific research is not one of them.

Athar Osama is a London-based science and innovation policy consultant. He is the founder and CEO of Technomics International Ltd, a UK-based international technology policy consulting firm, and founder of Muslim-Science.com.

Islam Analysis (15): Money can't buy quality research | Muslim-Science.Com
 
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Sure I wish they do.
But 6 years is unrealistic.
And if they do, it will be very inspiring for us.
That doesnt matter, u think that a failed state cant produce an einstien??? If pakistanis can mess their country, they can also fix it.
 
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That doesnt matter, u think that a failed state cant produce an einstien??? If pakistanis can mess their country, they can also fix it.

& just see who called us failed state who themselfs are faild in Afghanistan & asking Pakistan for help & when Pakistan refuse she suddenly became failed:D

i guess indians instead of blindly following FP a mere idiotic magazine should learn what is a failed state..........

even zimbabwe with more than 50% negetive griwth million% inflation & open civil war is not a failed state than how can Pakistan? with world's 25 largest economy, largest man power large research in science and technology.....lol

i mean its good for someone's moral boast to call Pakistan a failed state but whole world knows tht its just politics....
 
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Not really. Considering that NAZI Germany within 6 years became a world power from being a bankrupt nation in 1933 with the largest number of unemployed to a economic powerhouse and nationwide labor shortage by 1938 as well as the worlds most technologically advanced nation , you can't underestimate the potential of a nation. If only Pakistan could have a leader like Adolf Hitler we'd become number one in research within 2 years.

Hopefully Pakistan continues on this path (InshaAllah) and the brain power is used in house rather than outsourced.
Since the winners write the history,people usually are 'forced' to only see 'evil' part of the Führer.They don't get a chance to see what Hitler did in just 6 years.What he did to Germany from 1933 to 1939,well nations can just dream about it.
 
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lemme find it, there was a thread on defence. pk which had a pie chart.
There is not big deal in 12%. Because we have Huge population. Naturally more graduates.
What i am worried is about quality, i dont think we are producing quality graduates. government has made it sooo easy to become engineers.
 
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