Salam alikum peace hello and greetings to all members here
Hi my name is Zillay and today is my first post, I know knowbody has commented on this topic for quite a while but going through google looking for soemthign I came across this post so I thought I should comment on this. At first although we are all brothers in faith in particular and brothers in Humanity especially as the commander of the Faithful Imam Ali ibn abi talib (as) explained when writing to his Governor Malik ibn ashter. Faith forbids boast and pride but for the sake of brevity and clarfication i would mention That I am a Patan, and havign said that let me point out that should not be a means of boast.
[Yusufali 49:13] O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).
And indeed it is righteousness that is honoured in both this world and the next. Addressign first a brother said " patans being descendants of Khalid bin waleed is doubtful", Dear brother We have complete family trees going right back to Sword Of Allah hazrat Khalid bin walid although it is doubted wether his male issues survived, it is however well documented that the ancestor of the patan tribes hasrat qais abdur rashid married the daughter of hasrat Khalid bin waleed from which union he had some 3 sons and from whome descend the modern day pushtun tribes. Having said that Not all afghans are patans just because you speak pushto does not mean You are patan unless acording to pakhtunwlai you are from Patan parents and know you family history, what matters is the bloodline and from whome you descend.
In the malfuzat of Alah hazret imam eh ahle sunnat A's shah Ahmed raza Khan (ra) the complete family tree is mentioned in the introduction ( i have the book) which is published in english, excerpts of it is also online for those who wish to view it. Hasrat qais abdur rashid is a direct descdant of afghana from the line of malik talut or king saul in english the father in law of hasret dawud (as) or king david, and upon that the muslim historians agree upon , you refer to Tarikh-i-Khan Jahani Makhzan-i-Afghani by nimatullah khan niazi who compiled the book for the moghul emperor upon the orders of jehangir who wanted to know the origin, of the people that posess unspeakable Valour , and even centuries before that.
In One of the most ancient manuscripts available is Rauza ul Albab fi Tawarikh-ul-Akabir wal Ansab The Garden of the Learned in the History of Great Men and Genealogies by Abu Suleman Daud bin Abul Fazal Muhammad Albenaketi which was written in 1317 A.D. The author in his Introduction explains that ever since the times of Moses the ancestors of Afghans have had to face great hardships. They were expelled from place to place and exterminated. Their ancient ancestors were sacked more than once and carried into captivity. In Chapter I a detailed history of Yacub (Jacob) is given and in Chapter II the genealogies of the Afghan tribes are further traced. ( in history afghans and patan were synoymous terms not anymore)
For more deatils anyone here is free to contact me thats just a gist of a ocean of refrences available even right back to ahadith. Our indian freind makes many bogus claims, valour is that which is praised by the enemies and in that scenario no people has been so praised by a invading or attackign army as the Patans have been as a people of a whole. I already clarified that in modern times the word afghan signifies a nation they are not all nessarily patans. Although they may look it , or speak pushto a common sterotype. The british knew them as " the most ferocious warriors" , mahmud ghaznavi attacked india 17 times , and made it look like a piece of cake with the help of patans as did sher shah suri and ahmed shah abdali and ample others. The fact that All historians are unanimous That afghanistan has never been conqured, is a statement in itself.
Conquering does not mean having forighners in your land , yes they are there but are they in peace? hell no , something which even real time soldiers themselves have told me there. They dont have 5% of the technolgy they are up against but look at the determination. They had a vast empire expounding from iran right upto modern day india., no wonder even ghenghis didnt dare look at his neighbours. The taliban represent a extermist view they were barely liked by there own people, but even then even the americans praised there valour. For your information the coliation that attacked teh taliban wa snot a few hundred , thats a retarded statement it was over a hundred thousand easily. A handful of pashtun tribesmen freed the modern day azad kashmir region , and from swat the sikhs were entirely wiped out, and other areas. In kargil what our indian freind so used to bollywood movie masala forgot that a single captain kernal sher ali khan chased back a 800th sikh regiment i mean 800 by one man and the idiots felt humiliated afterwards and the milliatray account supplied by india read " give him the highest possible millitary award" he was given nishan e haider.
The fact that Muslims ruled india for over a 1000 years freely speaks volumes for itself without relying upon wikopedia lols you call that research , the fact that all the hindu maharajas went to bed with the british is intself a statement, and when it came to crunch time one sultan fateh ali khan tipu , fought so valiently that when he dies the british were terrified to approach his dead body for many hours , and finally his sword was brougth back to London england it now sits in a museam. Going aside from the patan issue the muslim ummah as a whole has had so many and such ample Valient brave and courageous sons that the word bravery seems like a understatement, spain was conquered by a 17 yr old, the roaman empire in byzantium by a 21 yr old, and india by a 18 yr old, , does any nation any people on the face of the earth have such Youngsters, such facts in itslef is enough of a statement.
Talk of indian bravery look at the kashmir valley a handful of mujahideen, are a nightmare for a country that boasts one of the largest numbers in military personell infact its emberassing you have plenty of sikhs there also, the brave sikhs who couldnt even liberate there desired homeland of punjab, yet you compare to patans that not only have noble descent but had a world standard empire. That mr is soemthing that google search or wikopedia cannot answer for you.
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Dil Tarasha.
