Pakistan shows concerns at Russia-India $2.9 billion defence deal

[SpArK]

Pakistan shows concerns at Russia-India $2.9 billion defence deal​

December 27th, 2012 by Tahir Khan



Pakistan on Thursday expressed serious concern over a recent India-Russia $2.9 billion defence arms deal and said that it is totally against an arms race in the region.

The defence agreement was signed in New Delhi on Monday during Russian President Vladimir Putin’s day-long trip to India.

Under the accords, India will buy 42 Sukhoi Su-30 fighter jets and 71 Mil Mi-17 helicopters, according to the media.

Commenting on the recently signed Russia-India arms deal, the Pakistani foreign office spokesperson told the newsmen in Islamabad that anything which may initiate nuclear or conventional arms race will not augur well for the future of the region.

When asked about the granting of Most Favored Nation (MFN) status to India, spokesman Moazzam Ahmad Khan said

“We are currently undergoing internal processes which are expected to be completed as soon as possible”.

He said relations with India improved substantially in 2012 and the Foreign Ministers of both India and Pakistan also held useful dialogue in which they expressed the resolve to resolve all the outstanding disputes.


The spokesman said that Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar will visit Saudi Arabia on January 1st on the invitation of Saudi Foreign Minister.


During her stay, she will hold talks with the Saudi leadership on further strengthening of bilateral relations.

The spokesman again denounced the American drone strike in the country’s tribal regions and said Pakistan considers the drone strikes in the war against terrorism as counter- productive, illegal, violation of “our sovereignty” and against the international laws.

Pakistan-U.S. ties: About Pakistan-US relations, the spokesman said there had been ups and downs in the bilateral relations in the year 2012 but now these are witnessing an upward trajectory after the resolution of issues.

“Both the countries have repeatedly stated to further strengthen their multifaceted relations. Leadership of both the countries has made it clear that long term peace and stability in Afghanistan is in our common interest. We are trying to evolve a common approach”.

On Afghanistan, Khan said Pakistan has repeatedly said that it support s any initiative that may result in an all inclusive political reconciliation, which is led and owned by Afghans themselves.

When question about involvement of foreign nationals in the recent attack on air force base in Peshawar, the spokesman said terrorism and extremism remain a paramount concern to Pakistan.

“We are putting in all possible efforts to address this menace. Terrorism is a global phenomenon and we are interacting with different friendly countries to collectively wipe out the threat posed by terrorism”.

To a question about Pakistan-Iran gas pipeline project, the spokesman said Pakistan is an energy deficient country and it is in our own interests to explore cheap means of energy. He said we attach importance to the gas pipeline project and the decision in this regard will be taken in the best national interest.

He said President Zardari’s visit to Iran is on the cards and currently both the countries are in the process of working out mutually convenient dates.

Giving an overview of 2012 in terms of relations with different countries, the spokesperson said Pakistan had good interaction with Russia this year.

“In 2012, our relations with the Islamic countries further strengthened and the holding of D-8 Summit was a grand finale of this year”.

The spokesman said Pakistan will assume the rotational presidency of the UN Security Council on the first of next month. “Our mission in the United Nations has chalked out a comprehensive program for debates on various important issues,” he added.


Pakistan shows concerns at Russia-India $2.9 billion defence deal | NewsPakistan.PK


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LinK

 

[Agnostic_Indian]

Arms race..?


don't like it then don't participate it .simple. we have a big country to be secured, so we will do the necessary things.

 

[Spring Onion]

Nothing special just an answer to journalists querry. its normal.

 

[kam83]

go cry on china's shoulder

Ontopic:

Why is it i feel like laughing whenever i hear this statement from pakistani establishment

anything which may initiate nuclear or conventional arms race will not augur well for the future of the region

 

[v9s]

Array Bhai...is there anything surprising about this statement?

When we get any defence gadgets, we hear the same thing from India.

Both sides do it.

 

[notsuperstitious]

My sympathies

 

[Kashmiri Nationalist]

Laugh all you want but in a real war missiles and nukes is what will matter, billions of dollars of matter can be turned to dust in a matter of seconds. Pakistan's strategy has always been defence (or enough offence to offset aggression - which in the threat of a nuclear strike, has been reached for a long time). What India has on paper is not what translates into the battlefield, never will India's full military might be subjected against Pakistan, whereas in any attack, the overwhelming might of the Pakistani Army will be thrown against the Indian forces; thus, India will need a much, much larger conventional advantage to maintain an invasion of Pakistan.

In this moment in time, India also has a lot more to lose than Pakistan in a war - namely, international reputation and the path to a permanent Security Council seat.

Lastly, Migs and helicopters matter little in wildfire insurgencies in and around civilian populaces. Any 'Kashmir War' will now be fought on the ground through proxies and groups, not by direct confrontation between India and Pakistan, for all intents of purposes, Migs are scrap metal in the skies in this case.

 

[Paan Singh]

china hai na soft loans dene ke liye and copies distribute krne ke liye

 

[Iggy]

Somebody was talking about whining

 

[Paan Singh]

Laugh all you want but in a real war missiles and nukes is what will matter, billions of dollars of matter can be turned to dust in a matter of seconds. Pakistan's strategy has always been defence (or enough offence to offset aggression - which in the threat of a nuclear strike, has been reached for a long time). What India has on paper is not what translates into the battlefield, never will India's full military might be subjected against Pakistan, whereas in any attack, the overwhelming might of the Pakistani Army will be thrown against the Indian forces; thus, India will need a much, much larger conventional advantage to maintain an invasion of Pakistan.

In this moment in time, India also has a lot more to lose than Pakistan in a war - namely, international reputation and the path to a permanent Security Council seat.

Lastly, Migs and helicopters matter little in wildfire insurgencies in and around civilian populaces. Any 'Kashmir War' will now be fought on the ground through proxies and groups, not by direct confrontation between India and Pakistan, for all intents of purposes, Migs are scrap metal in the skies in this case.

Acha ji

if nukes would have been the case then there was no need of conventional resources.
Neither paksitan nor india have guts to use nukes in first strikes and we saw in case of kargil when you ppl ran with tail in hands to U.S.

Musharaf even threatened with nukes but vajpayye replied that "we will wipe out a nation from earth if went for nuclear war"

Pakistanis have always brought big powers in b/w to save their tail ..whether its 65 or kargil and even in 71,USSR signed treaty with U.S that india wont touch west pakistan otherwise you would have been the youngest nation in the history...


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leave proxies..firstly get rid of the proxies in inside country then fart ..have been listening these since 60 yrs blah:

 

[xyxmt]

Pakistan shows concerns at Russia-India $2.9 billion defence deal​

December 27th, 2012 by Tahir Khan



Pakistan on Thursday expressed serious concern over a recent India-Russia $2.9 billion defence arms deal and said that it is totally against an arms race in the region.

The defence agreement was signed in New Delhi on Monday during Russian President Vladimir Putin’s day-long trip to India.

Under the accords, India will buy 42 Sukhoi Su-30 fighter jets and 71 Mil Mi-17 helicopters, according to the media.

Commenting on the recently signed Russia-India arms deal, the Pakistani foreign office spokesperson told the newsmen in Islamabad that anything which may initiate nuclear or conventional arms race will not augur well for the future of the region.

When asked about the granting of Most Favored Nation (MFN) status to India, spokesman Moazzam Ahmad Khan said

“We are currently undergoing internal processes which are expected to be completed as soon as possible”.

He said relations with India improved substantially in 2012 and the Foreign Ministers of both India and Pakistan also held useful dialogue in which they expressed the resolve to resolve all the outstanding disputes.


The spokesman said that Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar will visit Saudi Arabia on January 1st on the invitation of Saudi Foreign Minister.


During her stay, she will hold talks with the Saudi leadership on further strengthening of bilateral relations.

The spokesman again denounced the American drone strike in the country’s tribal regions and said Pakistan considers the drone strikes in the war against terrorism as counter- productive, illegal, violation of “our sovereignty” and against the international laws.

Pakistan-U.S. ties: About Pakistan-US relations, the spokesman said there had been ups and downs in the bilateral relations in the year 2012 but now these are witnessing an upward trajectory after the resolution of issues.

“Both the countries have repeatedly stated to further strengthen their multifaceted relations. Leadership of both the countries has made it clear that long term peace and stability in Afghanistan is in our common interest. We are trying to evolve a common approach”.

On Afghanistan, Khan said Pakistan has repeatedly said that it support s any initiative that may result in an all inclusive political reconciliation, which is led and owned by Afghans themselves.

When question about involvement of foreign nationals in the recent attack on air force base in Peshawar, the spokesman said terrorism and extremism remain a paramount concern to Pakistan.

“We are putting in all possible efforts to address this menace. Terrorism is a global phenomenon and we are interacting with different friendly countries to collectively wipe out the threat posed by terrorism”.

To a question about Pakistan-Iran gas pipeline project, the spokesman said Pakistan is an energy deficient country and it is in our own interests to explore cheap means of energy. He said we attach importance to the gas pipeline project and the decision in this regard will be taken in the best national interest.

He said President Zardari’s visit to Iran is on the cards and currently both the countries are in the process of working out mutually convenient dates.

Giving an overview of 2012 in terms of relations with different countries, the spokesperson said Pakistan had good interaction with Russia this year.

“In 2012, our relations with the Islamic countries further strengthened and the holding of D-8 Summit was a grand finale of this year”.

The spokesman said Pakistan will assume the rotational presidency of the UN Security Council on the first of next month. “Our mission in the United Nations has chalked out a comprehensive program for debates on various important issues,” he added.


Pakistan shows concerns at Russia-India $2.9 billion defence deal | NewsPakistan.PK


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LinK

if you see the video he was touching his left nut when he said that, i dont know what that means
but when they went off the camera he was doing

 

[JanjaWeed]

increase your own defence budget. You can catch up in the race!!

 

[Kashmiri Nationalist]

Acha ji

if nukes would have been the case then there was no need of conventional resources.
Neither paksitan not india have guts to use nukes in first strikes and we saw in case of kargil when you ppl ran with tail in hands to U.S.

Musharaf even threatened with nukes but vajpayye replied that "we will wipe out a nation from earth if went for nuclear war"

Pakistanis have always brought big powers in b/w to save their tail ..whether its 65 or kargil and even in 71,USSR signed treaty with U.S that india wont touch west pakistan otherwise you would have been the youngest nation in the history...


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leave proxies..firstly get rid of the proxies in inside country then fart ..have been listening these since 60 yrs blah:

Don't make the mistake of thinking I said conventional forces aren't needed, they are to fight the war and mark out battle lines - but ultimately, if you want to bring the enemy to submission, nukes are what will matter. What, you think that should India cross into Lahore - or Karachi - or Islamabad, that Pakistan wouldn't launch a nuclear strike?

Kargil/1999 is an entirely different matter, delivery systems were poor and untested and the conflict was a skirmish, not a war. Kashmir is an outer-lying territory for Pakistan, a buffer if you will, had India invaded the mainland, than that would have been a game changer. But in this case, it was Pakistan attacking Indian positions - so why didn't India dare and begin an attack on the mainland of Pakistan? If you're going to accuse the Pakistani Establishment of cowardice, then you may as well lay the blame squarely at India's door as well.

After all, where did India go after its macho-macho fist pumping after 26/11? Nowhere.

increase your own defence budget. You can catch up in the race!!

It is the preferance of any state to allocate its expenditure to improving the domestic situation through better transport, education and healthcare. The allocation of a large chunk of expenditure to arms is short-lived and doesn't serve the nation-state's best interests.

Think of what India/Pakistan could've done with 50% of the money they've spent on arms in the last 70 years, should they have spent it on the public.

 

[Paan Singh]

Don't make the mistake of thinking I said conventional forces aren't needed, they are to fight the war and mark out battle lines - but ultimately, if you want to bring the enemy to submission, nukes are what will matter. What, you think that should India cross into Lahore - or Karachi - or Islamabad, that Pakistan wouldn't launch a nuclear strike?

Kargil/1999 is an entirely different matter, delivery systems were poor and untested and the conflict was a skirmish, not a war. Kashmir is an outer-lying territory for Pakistan, a buffer if you will, had India invaded the mainland, than that would have been a game changer. But in this case, it was Pakistan attacking Indian positions - so why didn't India dare and begin an attack on the mainland of Pakistan? If you're going to accuse the Pakistani Establishment of cowardice, then you may as well lay the blame squarely at India's door as well.

After all, where did India go after its macho-macho fist pumping after 26/11? Nowhere.

Who idiot said that we will invade lahore ? its you who have been saying that we will launch proxies.
and now wars are fought with proxies like you have been under and now more n more resources are used for anti nuke systems ..and trust me,india have systems who can encounter every missile you have but still in unmature stage so it will take time till then you can fart.

why kargil was different? india brought navy and air force and army for that conflict and you say its skirmish?

as i told you,Today wars are fought with proxies not directly and when country gets weakened then military force is used like syria libya etc ...so dont confuse ur self ..and india have no intention to invade pakistan nor we have capability now presently..

Regarding 26/11 ..

Post-26/11, Mukherjee's words rattled Pakistan: Condoleezza Rice - Times Of India

read this and it shows where u were and even u asked to baitullah mehsud who was TTP leader at that time for help..do i need to say anything? reasons were some thing else and it will change direction of thread.

 

[hunter_hunted]

Com'on y are there concerns. Their economy is bigger Their country is bigger and so does the Population . So Deadly toys should also be in great no's. But Pakistan just need to do more on its Missile Programs and So far Pakistan is in right direction. So no need to worry.

When we have China as an ally so there is no need to worry about Russia - India relationship.