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I would like to emphasize that Turkey does not develop any products, let alone military products. They order parts from companies such as Thales, Rockwhell Collins, etc, and put them together, simply put, like a lego helicopter. Though, it is at least further than what the Arabian peninsula are doing, they would have no idea what to do with the parts.

I admire those Iranians and their classic anti-Turk propagandas !!!

Would you please enlighten us more about Turkish non-technological abilities please ?


Turkey suggested that they want to cooperate on space technology with Iran but even that would be a one way learning experience benefiting Turkey. Turkey simply has little to no experience on space technology. Unless it brings huge economic benefit, there is no use to it. Note, huge economical benefit is not equal to money, unless it is long term and part of a consistent economical cooperation. Maybe other types of cooperation, who knows, but it needs to be benefiting both sides.

Turkey did not suggest anything but It was Iranian officials who offered Turkey cooperation for space technologies. I mean Invitation came from Iran. Turkey is preparing to send a new satellite into space called Gokturk-2 in those days. Turkey do not need Iran copy-paste 1960 USA technologies. Before talking big like that, Learn building a proper satellite much more capable than 270m resolution. :)

What a cheap propaganda. Shame on yourself...

I neither meant to insult you, nor your fellow nationals.

After all those shame sentences, That's the common excuses among them. :)
 
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Simorgh said:
I would like to emphasize that Turkey does not develop any products, let alone military products. They order parts from companies such as Thales, Rockwhell Collins, etc, and put them together, simply put, like a lego helicopter. Though, it is at least further than what the Arabian peninsula are doing, they would have no idea what to do with the parts.

Well you may call them lego helicopters but going by your logic atleast they are able to buy the parts without having their shipments intercepted mid sea.How are the sanctions going with Iran??

Seriously one of the large TurKish export to Iran is finished Industrial parts and space frame structures.

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You mentioned some finished products, I am talking about elements that form a finished products. To put it in terms you might understand, Turkey might have a "Turkish laptop", but its hard disk is for western union, and its CPU is from Intel.

What on earth is a western union hard drive??? And the Intel pentium processor was designed by an Indian so shall we say American dont know the internal workings of a processor and had to import an engineer from India???? In the world of innovation, technology and designs flow from one location to other for plethora of reason. Cutting down development time, economies of scale, cost etc etc.. Iran has no semi conductor industy so where is it importing all the electronical internals?? Seriously one of the largest underground Iranian trade is smuggling electronics parts, engines and machinery spare parts.

On the flip side, I work on really large cluster computers and main frame and almost everything onboard such computer be it hard drive or a minute capacitor on the mainboard comes from a different supplier. So I should assume that these name brands like IBM and HP has no idea about internal workings of large scale computing. However its that "nameless" semiconductor manufacturer who is the kingpin of technology. Right??

Simorgh said:
With regards to F-35 I would like to add that Turkey has no knowledge about any of its internals and is merely used for financial reasons. This too is not meant as an insult, the other "cooperating" countries were not allowed either. For example Australia (on of the other "cooperating countries" on the F-35) became very angry that they were being pressured to buy the F-35, without knowing anything about it, and were not allowed to buy the F-22, which did actually did want. Or another example, the Netherlands, who were not even allowed to look in the cockpit or get within 10 feet of the prototype, yet were expected to order before seeing even one of them flying.

Turkey is a development partner in F35 which means they will contribute co-production as well R/D to the project. If it was for mere financial reasons they could have offered to sell an off the shelf package. WHy should Turkey be investing whole production line of F35?? The only countries bought into the F35 project for mere financial reasons were those not allowed anywhere near the prototype neither the development share. Such has not been the case with Turkey from day one so basically the statement is self contradictory.

After reading these kind of posts I am very well englightened why iran is sticking like a sore thumbs to world power..presumtions and weapons are two dangerous tools in the hand of ignorants.
 
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I advise this cheap Anti-Turk Propaganda Lover Iranian to take a look on Turkish defence section of PDF. There are lots of detail design pictures of systems and subsystems used on domestic programs. If He demands, I will share the national contribution rates of whole national defence programs. I do not know Whether Iranians know something about Design phase of engineering programs You know It is not needed to copy 1960 model USA-Soviet products without having ability enough about matelurji, aviation, electronics... but It is good to check on pages of Turkish defence section for them.


Talking like that is easy. If you can not back up your claims with safe source, You are a cheap Troll...

Come talk to me about how great your manufacturing is when your country moves forward 40 years and has a credible military to play with the big boys.

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BTW, Turkish Truck on Iranian military parade !!! :)

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Iran is producing those trucks under the licence of Turkish institue, If licence agreement wasn't cancelled cause of UN sanctions, They keep producing them at present...
 
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Only things the Iranian have done is refurbish some old US choppers using parts left over from Shah's times. The only thing they are good at are a lot of parades and any military looks good on the parade ground. What bugs me is why kids on this forums get so excited about it that we get 3 pages of silly posts.
 
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