Pakistan set to test missile this week

[Mutakalim]

can u guys plz tell me.if the tested missile,s debris is retrieved or left in ocean? if left isnt it risky that some hostile country grab it and research our tech from that?

Our tech is not alien to modern world. The debris which fell on the surface of ocean were completely burned out due to atmospheric Re-entry, so nothing could be extracted out of it.

 

[Burhan Wani]

Its an ICBM " TIPU 1" Check the trajectory of Missile.

SAFETY HIEGHT 578 KM...............that's why.

Nasar missile is missed.

 

[AUz]

We discussed the problem of using height to calculate range.
Shaheen II/III diameter is around 1.4 meter but the weight is around 23.6 tons.
In comparison, Agni II weigh 16 tonn but diameter for Agni II is 1.3 meter
Agni II has length of 21 meter as compared to 17.38 meter for Shaheen II.

Assume 10 % more diameter is proportional to R^2 = 121 % which means 20% change in per unit volume. Hence theoretically, Shaheen II length is 17.38*1.2=~21 meter

=>Both missiles are of same volume but Shaheen II is heavier than Agni II

But 6-7 tonns extra weight(due to lack of composite while agni II used some composite) undermines its range. Shaheen II range should be around ~1500-1700 KM

Shaheen III looks similar to Shaheen II but appears lighter to shaheen II. The diameter is same.if the weight is around 20 tons then range more than 3000 KM is almost impossible for any size of payload
I doubt if Shaheen can deliver 1000 kg of payload at distance more than 2500Km(if it uses similar fuel but weigh more than agni II)
My estimates say that Shaheen III range of 2750 KM is exaggerated.

1000 Kg: 2000-2500 KM
500 kg: 2750 KM
Weight reduction by having composite in single stage : 3 tons
Pak will have to make 1 stage of solid rocket engine composite if it desires to launch payload of 1000 kg payload in 2750-3000 Km range

@The Deterrent your thoughts on this post?

 

[Max]

Shaheen 3 ?

 

[Maarkhoor]

Phirr say L na lagg jayen'. Yeh na ho, khoda pahar, nilka chooha!

L laggna kiya hota hey bhai?

Shaheen III as compared to Shaheen II bigger in dia and length.

 

[The Deterrent]

@The Deterrent your thoughts on this post?

Those estimates are actually quite accurate. However, the range is not exaggerated, Shaheen-III is a massive upgrade over Shaheen-II, featuring a lighter payload, possibly better fuel geometry, a possible composite 2nd stage...all of which give nearly double the range of Shaheen-II (1500 km).

 

[Maarkhoor]

Those estimates are actually quite accurate.

And what about extra length and dia ?

 

[The Deterrent]

And what about extra length and dia ?

The length is slightly greater, the diameter is the same.

 

[Maarkhoor]

The length is slightly greater, the diameter is the same.

I beg to differ with you i study many pictures and compare with the nearby object and person SIII dia is roughly 2 meters. Lets see new pics and may the release the new closeup video.

Bhai you ever noticed why they reluctant to release info ? SIII probably a much longer range what the declare.

 

[AUz]

And what about extra length and dia ?

We don't know the length and diameter of Shaheen-III. We don't even know the weight of the missile.

I don't think any such information was revealed

 

[Maarkhoor]

We don't know the length and diameter of Shaheen-III. We don't even know the weight of the missile.

I don't think any such information was revealed

 

[The Deterrent]

I beg to differ with you i study many pictures and compare with the nearby object and person SIII dia is roughly 2 meters. Lets see new pics and may the release the new closeup video.

Bhai you ever noticed why they reluctant to release info ? SIII probably a much longer range what the declare.

The diameter is what it is. You are free to assume whatever you want to.
As I said in the other thread, the range is probably around 3000km, but we cannot test it at that range because of US pressure. And without testing, it can't be qualified for operational use for that range.

 

[AUz]

 

[Zarvan]

The diameter is what it is. You are free to assume whatever you want to.
As I said in the other thread, the range is probably around 3000km, but we cannot test it at that range because of US pressure. And without testing, it can't be qualified for operational use for that range.

Sir people are confused because till few years back Shaheen II was told to have range of 2000 KM. Only from last year we are being told it has range of 1500 KM

 

[Maarkhoor]

Sir people are confused because till few years back Shaheen II was told to have range of 2000 KM. Only from last year we are being told it has range of 1500 KM

They are using depressed trajectory to avoid ABM which reduces the range.