Pakistan seeks big powers’ help to settle Kashmir issue

[Tiger Genie]

Why does Pakistan have to ask anyone else to 'resolve' Kashmir issue? All they have to do is stop sending in terrorists into Kashmir.

This kind of repeating their nonsensical request is simply insane and most of the world simply laughs at them.

 

[Fireurimagination]

Okay so which of the P5 wants India as their enemy? I believe none

 

[Ankit Kumar 002]

Urge ? Beg ? Plead ? Cry ?

It would be more effective if Ak56s and men stop crossing the LOC. Becoz for each such one crossing the LOC , we will get 10 in where it hurts.

 

[Khurram2349]

Kashmir conflict will be solved by Kashmiris only ..............they realize that they can get freedom from India only by fighting on their own and not to expect any help from anywhere .......and with this resolve no one can stop them from getting what they deserve ...Insha Allah !

 

[oFFbEAT]

Martial race, unlimited supply of Jihadis, Nuclear power, support of Islamic Ummah.......what else Pakistanis need to snatch Kashmir from darpok Hindu banyas?...still looking for help from 'big' powers?....that too from 'kuffar' powers...

 

[oFFbEAT]

You forgot that they also have Zaid Hamid's Roohani Fauj:

Oh yes I forgot, Pak. fauj is also protected by 'roohani taaqat' that's why only Indian soldiers die of cross border firing......our bullets, shells don't have any affect on them, you'll hardly hear about any Pakistani soldiers death due to cross border firing. Their civilians die sometimes, but that's natural as their civilians are not protected by 'roohani taaqat'......

 

[Laozi]

You forgot that they also have Zaid Hamid's Roohani Fauj:

Pakistanis are blessed to have this Patriot. He can single handedly fight millions of Hindus extremists any day

 

[Lurch Adams]

Pakistanis are blessed to have this Patriot. He can single handedly fight millions of Hindus extremists any day

But I think they are catching on to how crazy he comes across as. They don't really mention him on PDF these days. Actually he is the only person I have seen Pakistanis get defensive about. Usually they have a brazen justification for everyone - from Dawood Ibrahim to Osama bin Laden, Hafiz Saeed, etc. He must be a real work of art.

 

[Mustang06]

Does this qualify as Randi rona?

 

[Laozi]

But I think they are catching on to how crazy he comes across as. They don't really mention him on PDF these days. Actually he is the only person I have seen Pakistanis get defensive about. Usually they have a brazen justification for everyone - from Dawood Ibrahim to Osama bin Laden, Hafiz Saeed, etc. He must be a real work of art.

If you think that Pakistanis get defensive about this fellow then you don't understand them.

All of them believe in what he says just like most Indians believe in Vedic scriptures.

But they just like us get defensive because the narratives are yet to be scientifically proven

 

[Kathin_Singh]

Desperation level quite high there

 

[Lurch Adams]

Does this qualify as Randi rona?

The entire history of Pakistani demands on Kashmir, etc, is just that. Unfortunately, because of them, we are forced to host UNMOGIP who have no work as India simply does not validate it by crying before it.

If you think that Pakistanis get defensive about this fellow then you don't understand them.

All of them believe in what he says just like most Indians believe in Vedic scriptures.

But they just like us get defensive because the narratives are yet to be scientifically proven

Hmm...I think I will test it out by starting a thread on him. Test the waters...

 

[cloud4000]

P5 Ambassadors: Who are you, Mr. Fatemi?
Fatemi: I'm Special Assistant to the Prime Minister
P5 Ambassadors: You are not the Foreign Minister?
Fatemi: No. We don't have one.
P5 Ambassadors: And you want us to listen to you on Kashmir?

How serious can Pakistan be when their point man on Kashmir is a Special Assistant -- be it Aziz one day, Fatemi the next -- and not a Foreign Minister? Why would any country listen to Pakistan on anything when it runs its foreign policy in such a slip-shod manner?

 

[NHUDA]

nah no concrete effort government just need to lift article 370 which prevents rest of indians from buying property in kashmir. believe me thats all we need. on a side note palestine has always supported indian version on kashmir

If it would be THAT simple it would have been done ... i believe thr will be stiff resistance on lifting the Article 370, but even IF it is lifted ... it would take a lot more convincing for people to move thr (in an amount which would change the demography) ....

I think you are too optimistic. 20 - 30 years will be a long enough for India to become one of the top 3 powerful countries on the planet. This itself be a deterrent for others to mess with India. Second, Pakistan doesn't enjoy such profile to settle Palestine, nor do I see Pakistan profile an different in next 20 - 30 than it is now. Third, Kashmir is not something that is land for Indians, since last 70 years Indians have invested emotions in Kashmir.

The only solution. LOC as IB with valley muslims given a chance to migrate to Pakistan or remain in India.

At one side you are saying i m TOO optimistic while on other U r saying india will be one of Top - 3 Powerful countries ... please note Power is not only numbers game .. (may i know ur top 3 countries in the world after 20-30 years)

and yes ... i explained that Pakistan will not be top - 10 countries but it still have a significant Position in OIC .. and if we can revive it first for the sake of Palestine it is doable, with Pakistan surely able to play a significant role ... and once the Issue is resolved it can Pave way for solution of kashmir ... (Please note i mentioned a Freedom Motion for kashmir VALLEY rather thn Merger with Pakistan) while keeping the status quo for the rest ! and yes it is Optimistic but it is also doable .... the next 20-30 years we will see a whole different world with new alliances and blocs, a total different sort of issues (Global Warming, Hunger & Economy) .... hence i believe it is not a cake ride but in case of concrete effort it is doable !

 

[ito]

If it would be THAT simple it would have been done ... i believe thr will be stiff resistance on lifting the Article 370, but even IF it is lifted ... it would take a lot more convincing for people to move thr (in an amount which would change the demography) ....



At one side you are saying i m TOO optimistic while on other U r saying india will be one of Top - 3 Powerful countries ... please note Power is not only numbers game .. (may i know ur top 3 countries in the world after 20-30 years)

and yes ... i explained that Pakistan will not be top - 10 countries but it still have a significant Position in OIC .. and if we can revive it first for the sake of Palestine it is doable, with Pakistan surely able to play a significant role ... and once the Issue is resolved it can Pave way for solution of kashmir ... (Please note i mentioned a Freedom Motion for kashmir VALLEY rather thn Merger with Pakistan) while keeping the status quo for the rest ! and yes it is Optimistic but it is also doable .... the next 20-30 years we will see a whole different world with new alliances and blocs, a total different sort of issues (Global Warming, Hunger & Economy) .... hence i believe it is not a cake ride but in case of concrete effort it is doable !

You should check various studies by various organizations that have placed India in top 3 economies by 2050. Certainly by population India will the largest country in the world.

As on your rest of the post, I would repeat it....you are optimistic that Pakistan can force India to give up its territory. Not going to happen...no powerful countries give up territory. China will give up Tibet, nor Pakistan will give up Baluchistan.

As I said only solution LOC as IB with some adjustments and people given the option to migrate to India or Pakistan. This is the essence of Musharaf formula, and that is what the solution will be.