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PAKISTAN SEEKING 4 TO 6 NEW FAST ATTACK CRAFTS TO GUARD GWADAR

They defended theirselves against air assets. If you wanna engage enemy ships with them , first you should install SSM missiles on them. otherwise nonesense!. A cannon can destroy almost everything, isnt it?

Why PAKNavy waits for 10 years to equip them with SSM? Their stealth shape is an upper hand to infiltrate enemy formation. New ssm missile ranges almost reached 300 km. These ships can hurt enemy seriously.
Pak Navy uses the 33s for port security and patrolling our EEZ on anti piracy missions.

And if needed they can place Harbah ASHM on them.

It has a range of 450-700 KM.

PNS Himmat firing Harbah:


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Or wait for the new supersonic Missile.
 
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Why PAKNavy waits for 10 years to equip them with SSM? Their stealth shape is an upper hand to infiltrate enemy formation. New ssm missile ranges almost reached 300 km. These ships can hurt enemy seriously.

First of all why turkey delivered it unarmed?
 
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Weapon deployment and procurement is not like a shopping in the supermarket, every weapon has his own strategic and tactical role.
There should be better air options available for use in this regard pertaining to surprise, speed and weapon carriage ability.

Reading this topic reminds me of a very valuable and knowledgeable member @Penguin, from whom i learnt a lot.
 
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What was in the contract?

Two MRT33 FAC equipped with a Naval Gun System and integrated with 4 Harpoon SSMs. Both FAC were delivered totally unarmed, just google the induction ceremony. Imagine Pakistan sells Tanks with out a 125mm gun and without the coaxial 12.7mm aa gun.

There should be better air options available for use in this regard pertaining to surprise, speed and weapon carriage ability.

Reading this topic reminds me of a very valuable and knowledgeable member @Penguin, from whom i learnt a lot.

@Penguin did leave pdf because of disrespectful and intolerant behaving in writing and posting of Members in these forum.
 
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@Penguin did leave pdf because of disrespectful and intolerant behaving in writing and posting of Members in these forum.
Its a big loss which new members might not realize but i had been interacting with him on the previous PDF also. He had a refined logic to everything, he could post informative stuff from all around the globe and give so much data which made it easier for everyone to understand according to their own levels.
 
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First of all why turkey delivered it unarmed?
Turkey can not sell a US weapon , Harpoon procurement agreement was(or supposed to be) between Pak and US governments . US sanctioned and you guys couldnt get them, so what is Turkish fail here? You have(had) options to replace harpoons like C802 or new variants, dont think Harba is suitable because of it size(looks large to me). If Pak government wants missiles they can install them in a just couple months even new Turkish missile ATMACA. I think they dont wanna put large missiles on those boats.
 
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Its a big loss which new members might not realize but i had been interacting with him on the previous PDF also. He had a refined logic to everything, he could post informative stuff from all around the globe and give so much data which made it easier for everyone to understand according to their own levels.
I wish someone could contact him and ask him to return. I always learned a lot from his posts. I think a loss of a member like him should give the mods pause and cause them to self reflect why we lose strong contributors while weaker contributors speak like rude insolent people when you dont agree with their speculation.
 
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Its a big loss which new members might not realize but i had been interacting with him on the previous PDF also. He had a refined logic to everything, he could post informative stuff from all around the globe and give so much data which made it easier for everyone to understand according to their own levels.

True. He was excellent on naval warfare and naval armaments
 
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Turkey can not sell a US weapon , Harpoon procurement agreement was(or supposed to be) between Pak and US governments . US sanctioned and you guys couldnt get them, so what is Turkish fail here? You have(had) options to replace harpoons like C802 or new variants, dont think Harba is suitable because of it size(looks large to me). If Pak government wants missiles they can install them in a just couple months even new Turkish missile ATMACA. I think they dont wanna put large missiles on those boats.

Sir Harba is fitted on Azmat Class FAC also, so Turkish corvettes can lso be armed easily with them. The benefit of Harba is it's much longer range than C802 or similar missiles as well as cost factor.
 
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Sir Harba is fitted on Azmat Class FAC also, so Turkish corvettes can lso be armed easily with them. The benefit of Harba is it's much longer range than C802 or similar missiles as well as cost factor.
Of course Harba would be logical solution, i just emphasized Harba's size, i know it has grater range than other SSMs but can you fit it into small boat that is designed for Harpoon?
 
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Of course Harba would be logical solution, i just emphasized Harba's size, i know it has grater range than other SSMs but can you fit it into small boat that is designed for Harpoon?
It shall be suffice to say that Azmat class FAC i.e PNS Himmat is armed with dual tripple missile launchers for Harba. It is a 63 m vessel in length if it can be armed than certainly Turkish one can also do same.
 
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It shall be suffice to say that Azmat class FAC i.e PNS Himmat is armed with dual tripple missile launchers for Harba. It is a 63 m vessel in length if it can be armed than certainly Turkish one can also do same.
sir! see the placement of missiles, harba is large! Missiles are hidden inside box, can be visible only during firing.

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