Pakistan says the US is no longer an ally – and it’s a much bigger deal than you think

[Adonis]

Pakistan is an ally with Shia Iran. Who said Pakistan is not an Irani ally.

Read the post of Clutch to whom I replied. He said that.

 

[BHarwana]

Read the post of Clutch to whom I replied. He said that.

A single poster cannot reflect a countries alliance. Read the news on inter net where it say Pakistan is having new deal with Iran on every field.

 

[Clutch]

Pakistan is an ally with Shia Iran. Who said Pakistan is not an Irani ally.


Pakistan and Iran are already in alliance in defence production and working on a missile program there was news in COAS visit to Tehran but no details came after that.

An alliance with Iran is good... A Reliance on Iran is not!

Read the post of Clutch to whom I replied. He said that.

I didn't say don't have good relations with Iran... Just be careful . Alliance of mutual benefit... Reliance should not be part of it. Iran has never been a reliable neighbor of Pakistan.

Pakistan and Iran historically have cordial relations... Which is good... Let's expand them to include Iranian gas (energy).

 

[BHarwana]

An alliance with Iran is good... A Reliance on Iran is not!

Alliance with every country is good reliance on any country is not good.

 

[Clutch]

Alliance with every country is good reliance on any country is not good.

I agree... However... Sometimes for a small nation surrounded by a nation 10 times larger with a blood thirsty to exterminate those people because of their religion... That small nation needs also a reliance as a counter balance... That reliance is China. Time tested .

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

But USA has to pay for services it is taking from Pakistan nothing come for free.

You're right, you want the next WB/IMF Loan modification or not?

 

[BHarwana]

I agree... However... Sometimes for a small nation surrounded by a nation 10 times larger with a blood thirsty to exterminate those people because of their religion... That small nation needs also a reliance as a counter balance... That reliance is China. Time tested .

There is nothing as time tested. China and Pakistan have aligned interests and cultural heritage. Same case with Iran now, Pakistan's and Iran's interests are aligned in ME and Afghanistan so Pakistan and Iran are working together. Now look at Gulf Pakistan is a Saudi ally but Pakistan and Saudi interests are not aligned on Qatar issue so we are not working together in that area.

You're right, you want the next WB/IMF Loan modification or not?

No we don't Pakistan has shifted to Yuan and Pakistan is getting it's loan in Yuan. Pakistan imports most from China so by shifting to Yuan the Dollar trade deficit has decreased IMF is no longer and issue. USA really wants to lose Afghanistan as it lost Syria, by targeting Pakistan USA will lose Afghanistan. Another Vietnam is not in favor of USA. This will not just stop on Afghanistan but this trend will continue to Gulf and Petro dollar as well.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

No we don't Pakistan has shifted to Yuan and Pakistan is getting it's loan in Yuan. Pakistan imports most from China so by shifting to Yuan the Dollar trade deficit has decreased IMF is no longer and issue. USA really wants to lose Afghanistan as it lost Syria, by targeting Pakistan USA will lose Afghanistan. Another Vietnam is not in favor of USA. This will not just stop on Afghanistan but this trend will continue to Gulf and Petro dollar as well.

Has it? Pakistan will use the Yuan for China-Pakistan trade.

Considering the deficit of ~$9Billion, the hammering of the Rupee exchange, decline in exports (although some rebound)....

 

[BHarwana]

Considering the deficit of ~$9Billion,

Pakistan China trade volume is 25 billion so still Pakistan can manage.

 

[Mahmood-ur-Rehman]

I don't know why the foreign media keeps saying China + Iran. Pakistan as a Sunni majority will never fall under a full comprehensive alliance with shia Iran. Stupid ignorant western media analysis.

It's actually China + Russia that Pakistan is realigning itself with... Which is good. Iran just happens to part of that alliance.. and better Iran Pakistan relations (gas energy) is good for Pakistan.

Dumb western analysis...

Pakistan is a Sunni state and not Wahhabi state so both Wahhabi and shia are acceptable for Pakistan

 

[Clutch]

Pakistan is a Sunni state and not Wahhabi state so both Wahhabi and shia are acceptable for Pakistan

Ok... I don't get it.

 

[Trango Towers]

USA foreign policy has become only Israel first policy and no country can take this type of dictation from USA.

When you have two presidents who's daughters are married to jews there is little sway the father's have over Israel. Kushner is in charge of middle East policy. Speaks volumes

USA foreign policy has become only Israel first policy and no country can take this type of dictation from USA.

When you have two presidents who's daughters are married to jews there is little sway the father's have over Israel. Kushner is in charge of middle East policy. Speaks volumes

You're right, you want the next WB/IMF Loan modification or not?

To be honest what will happen if world bank aka America stopped we will default...So will Pakistan end? Pakistan cannot be ignored. America is realising this

 

[A1Kaid]

It is CSF coalition support fund. The name is given Aid but in reality it was money for services that Pakistan was providing USA. Which Include free intelligence. CIA is dud agency that has no ground assets in Afghanistan and and the whole war on terror was based on Pakistani intelligence. Look at Syria where USA has become a football due to lack of support from Turkey and USA has lost Syrian war. Same thing will happen in Afghanistan. Pakistan is the most important player in the region and you don't piss Pakistan off.

Then stop providing these so called "services." It's really that simple, nobody is forcing you to provide those services.

 

[BHarwana]

Then stop providing these so called "services." It's really that simple, nobody is forcing you to provide those services.

My friend we have stopped them but it is USA that constantly is asking that it needs them. Yesterday there was a new envoy from USA and in few days more will come. It is USA that needs them so ask USA to stop asking for those services. If they will pay well give those services again it is pure business nothing else. You pay we give you don't we stop this is what Pakistan is saying. USA want to call is aid fine USA wants to call it CSF fine or USA wants to call intelligence purchasing fine but this is a business deal rather than anything else.

 

[Mamluk]

Pakistan is an ally with Shia Iran. Who said Pakistan is not an Irani ally.

No we are not. And it has nothing to do with Shia/Sunni crap!
We should limit relations to business deals and maybe joint border management, and keep an eye on the Iranian regime's cross border activities.