What our Islam mongers don't seem to understand is the jihadi Pakistan army is going to be constantly under the gun, internally and externally - and it's not because as these Islamists wish to claim, that Pakistanis hate Islam - what Pakistanis want is a sane, effective army -- and an army that is more concerned about confession and sectarian concerns, is neither, professional, neither effective and is in the context it is in, not sane.
Please Elaborate!
Pakistanis hate Islam?? Doesn’t make sense.. rest of the paragraph is just gibberish..
Why is it under threat internally? Having gone ideological, the Pakistan army instead of promoting the idea that all citizens are equal, actually promotes that citizens are not equal, that the consideration of confession and sect is primary - How does it do that? I refer you to the very motto this army has adopted. This motto is a reflection of the ethic that informs the army, the ethic that decides careers.
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Nothing makes sense in this paragraph also.. what motto? How does it promotes that citizen are not all equal? And which ethic you are referring too?
Gibberish!
So why would a majority Muslim country not adopt a Jihadi ethic? Primarily because it is in the interests of a group to obscure the differences between Islam, the religion of Faith in God, on one hand Islam-ism, a political ideology that seeks to cloak it's ideology of political violence in the idiom of Islam. from 1947 to 1979, the Pakistan army did not use any such ideological orientation, the heinous coup d'etat of the Jamaati general Zia ul Haq, followed by the Islamization project, ensured that the Pakistan army would be developed on the ideology of Islam-ism and in particular be imbued with a jihadi ethic.
Please Elaborate!
Pakistan army was Islamic army in 1965 war also, listen to the ‘nara-e-takbeer’ and ‘Allah-o-Akbar’ in the ‘few’ recordings we have.
Fist part of your paragraph until you came to Zia is again Gibberish! Rest is the only slogan you are repeating like a tape recorder!
But why is the jihadi Pakistan army a bone of contention?
Because it is divisive, it acts against the very unity of Pakistan and the reason is because the ideology of Islamism is both enemy seeking and enemy making. Look at what has become of "Islamic" Pakistan and please also look at what has become of Islam itself in Pakistan - we no longer know which Islam, which sect, which shariah - because each of these ideas (enemy seeking and enemy making - need for the perpetuation and justification of the ideology) now finds multiple owners, with Pakistan army being one set of owners and the religious political parties another major set and the Islamist insurgents, yet another major set, along with thousands of others clerics and "non-state" actors, each with their version.
You make some valid points in this because it serves your purpose, suddenly your English is understandable.
Then again, why not educate/repel the insurgents and non-state actors? Why are you hell-bent on Army? Why do you want the army to de-Islamise? Fearlessness is a plus for any soldier isn’t it? Shaheed or Ghazi, both worthy rewards!
Critical readers and some apologists will suggest that I have used a broad brush to paint Islamism with, how can we be responsive that this charge? Lets look at the the record in Pakistan, is there is a counter Islamist narrative, which argues that the use of Islam as a political tool, infused with violence, is counter to the very notion of Islam (Peace)? -- See, if there were such a counter narrative of national significance, we would have ot concede that we have painted the ideology with a broad brush, but unfortunately, there isn't one.
Elaborate please!
Your use of English is again gone out of control, anyways, what I can understand is that you only take Islam as a peaceful religion, it in fact is, but there are other aspects of Islam also, where you are ordered to raise arms when repelling an invader or aggressor.
So no, you are not using the broad brush, you are using a ‘narrow’ brush!
Now we have positioned the Jihadi Pakistan army against Islamists use term that army to be APOSTATE - please, please think about this incredible development - this internal contradiction is a mortal threat to the army - and this is also the primary reason the state and the Pakistan army, even after 10 years of fighting the Islamist, is not able to come up with a narrative to justify how a "Islamic" Jihadi army is at war with Islamist and Jihadists.
Twisted Logic!!
The Jihadists and Islamists you are referring to are going against the soul of Islam, so tomorrow if a Christian states that his version of Christianity is Islam we should accept it?
Again, why should we take Islam out of Pakistani Army who are majority Muslims?
Ok but why would such a Jihadi army be under constant threat from external players??
Aren’t you giving answer in your own question? If you expand the term ‘Jihadi’ to ‘Islamic’, you’ll get your answer.
Because it is not seen as a national army, that is to say it is fundamentally illegitimate in the eyes of those whom it must win over Key board and other kinds of Islamists are very different from the real one, the real ones are not reading this argument, they never ever will – if the Pakistan army is seen as APOSTATE, what possible interest will those of have done this have in such discussions as this one?? And of course, as you can see on these pages, the same applies to the Jihadi army and it's apologists.
Elaborate please!!!
Honestly mate, you really need to straighten your English up, and stop using that ‘thesaurus’ in MS Word. It doesn’t do you any good but makes it difficult for us to understand your POV. For example, do let me know what you meant in the bold part.
Again.. Gibberish!
Because Islamism is fundamentally violent, enemy seeking and enemy making, neither tha Pakistan state nor the Jihadi army can be trusted to be a part of any meaningful part of any international political and economic construct - and it must win it's position by constant threat of use of force, of coercion - Is this other than the pattern we see in the kinds of positions the Jihadi Pakistan army continues to take??
I guess you are trying to say that, in order to be a part of international political and economic construct, Pakistan has to de-Islamise its army, fair enough, that is your POV, but honestly speaking, its not the Army, but the threat of a possible Muslim power which is strong enough to defend itself and its friends, and retaliate if required, is the global concern within anti-Islam actors right now. Just like you!
Friends, the argument is super uncomplicated - Pakistan are a talent nation, the Pakistan army's foundations were never Islamist, However, since 1979, not by popular or democratic means but by conspiracy and illegitimately, the orientation of the Pakistan army was forcefully changed. The ISI is composed of talented Pakistanis, but as a agency of the Jihadi army, it is also imbued with the same ethic -- to save Pakistan, to save the Army and her agencies, the contagion that is Islamist ethic, must be removed.
As usual, all the ranting and Gibberish ended up on one thing and one thing only.. Change the Army and ISI..
I honestly can not understand the criterion of ‘think tank’ on this forum; can anyone please explain it to me? Is it how good you are in talking vaguely or is it the knowledge of how to use ‘thesaurus’?
Now I’m looking forward to an infringement warning
