Pakistan’s Hazaras to take up arms over attacks

[haviZsultan]

Picking up Guns for self defense as the Law enforcement agencies are part of the problem and all of sudden its Iranians who are to blame really.

Even know the actions that were launched against LJ and other terrorist organization were cancelled after two days and people are to trust the same agencies i don't think so.

I hope Hazaras defend themselves with latest weaponry and retaliate with full force and if the army acts against them then other shias will pick up the weapons if you cant act against Wahhabi you will not act against us either.

And they are retaliating. Especially in Karachi you see a massive retaliation. For example in this week reports confirm atleast 5 ASWJ workers have been killed. This isn't a Shia problem. This is a Pakistani problem and it has got nothing to do with Iran @somebozo.

It is as simple as supporting our Shia brothers in their time of need. Its that simple. Cheetah is my brother as is any other Shia. It breaks my heart they have to raise weapons. We should have risen up and started the defence of Shias. Cheetah my brother I don't know how to apologize for the sickening amount of intolerance. Do not let the terrorists alter your thinking. The LEJ wanted to polarize our society and burn a deep ethnic chasm. We cannot allow them to do that.

I am saying this so that you never think of yourself a separate community alone in this because its what LEJ wanted.

I am with the Hazaras 200%. I am with my Shia brother. We lost on all fronts to protect our minorities, we will not fail here. I think LEA's should hire Hazara youth for the defence and protection of their areas. I would personally volunteer if I wasn't sick. Being in Pakistan makes a person truly joshila.

 

[Parul]

Grave and alarming situation for government when people come out for self defence.

 

[Cheetah786]

Sir doesn't it mean a sort of civil war and approach to Anarchy and Chaos ?

I am hoping the new government changes its course other wise?

 

[Amaa'n]

Though it is the constitutional right of every citizen of Pakistan to defend itself by hook or the crook, and I myself carry a handgun for SD, however I still don't approve of this. How can we get down to such a lower level that we have to arm a community to defend itself, because we The Govt, The LEA, The Military, The Intel agencies are so incompetent?

This is not the solution but a root cause of another problem, which we will see in coming time. I see it no different than arming a group of talibans to fight for us. In a 1-2 years time they will as usual loose the control of this situation and we will have LeJ vs Shia groups. it is like repeating the history of 1980s.

 

[somebozo]

And they are retaliating. Especially in Karachi you see a massive retaliation. For example in this week reports confirm atleast 5 ASWJ workers have been killed. This isn't a Shia problem. This is a Pakistani problem and it has got nothing to do with Iran @somebozo.

It has nothing to do with Iran as of now, wait until the community is armed and the situation will change. That is because AWSJ and SSP has strong backing from the gulfees. I understand Iranian politics very well!

 

[arp2041]

There doesn't seem to be any logic or rationality in destabilizing one's own country.

In that case, everyone loses.

@Chinese-Dragon, when 80+ Pakistani citizens died of a gruesome terrorist attack, a well known Pakistani member here said that a common Pakistani does not bother anymore, Hazaras have been killed, they will protest while for others there will be work as usual.

If the thinking is like this, what else do you expect??

 

[Ayush]

There doesn't seem to be any logic or rationality in destabilizing one's own country.

In that case, everyone loses.

They are far too obsessed with sunnism rather than nationalism.

Picking up Guns for self defense as the Law enforcement agencies are part of the problem and all of sudden its Iranians who are to blame really.

Even know the actions that were launched against LJ and other terrorist organization were cancelled after two days and people are to trust the same agencies i don't think so.

I hope Hazaras defend themselves with latest weaponry and retaliate with full force and if the army acts against them then other shias will pick up the weapons if you cant act against Wahhabi you will not act against us either.

This scenario looks like a civil war mate.

Sir doesn't it mean a sort of civil war and approach to Anarchy and Chaos ?

Oh.i asked him the same question.

 

[KRAIT]

@arp2041 How can your forget the statement made by Balochistan minister when he was asked about what he will do for Shias and Hazara people, he replied that he can send trucks load of tissue paper ?

 

[Lavosh2]

well now India will provide money to them , iran will provide tanks and guns, USA will provide drone support to hazara army against brutal Sunni Pakistani forces ,



long live Hazara Army

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Definitely a wrong precedent, shows the breakdown of the state machinery.

thats true
the terrorists and their apologists will find another reason to justify the attacks on Hazaras
its a real shame that the state has resisted their demand to conduct targeted operations against the fararri camps
there have been some raids (on paper) and some token arrests of the Sunni extremist organisation that serves as the politcal front face of LeJ and thats pretty much it.

and LeJ is not bluffing, they will go ahead with their announced attacks. it reminds me of something that happened in parachinar when after continued attacks the shias armed themselves and started fighting back the Deobandi sectarian terrorists but security forces moved in and disarmed the shias and then setup checkposts and then later on watched as the sectarian terrorists resumed their attacks and massacred the shia. thats one of the thing the LeJ has bragged itself in one of its latest open letter.

the sectarian pests are fearless now, you guys say that we are getting the taste of our own medicine but its unfair comment because Hazarras have no role in terrorism in India and the sectarian terrorists who specialise in shia killing have never ever threatened Indian state, they might change their mind and join with LeT to kill shias in India and Kashmir but they are getting very good results here in Pakistan so they wont risk their lives while crossing the border.

if Hazaras went bazzark then these Punjabi terrorists will find no place to hide, they are used to killing unarmed shias but that might change quickly if the Hazaras eventually put their words into action

its a worrying development for Pakistan because all foreign hostile entities will seize this moment. the supporters from UAE and KSA will double their support of LeJ and TTP, Iran and maybe India will will support the shias adding more fuel to the fire.

 

[A.Rafay]

Leave the Arms, think Australian Visa

That was a rumour! Australia Denied this asylum news!

 

[KRAIT]

@Irfan Baloch Exactly Sir. The people in many segments of society who came for support for protection for Shias and Hazaras may become silent.

The moderate and peaceful people will get marginalized and if they try to speak out, they might become victims themselves.

All LeJ and other terrorists has to do is make another attack, even smaller in scale and you will have a flame thrown in a room filled with highly inflammable hatred and anger gas.

In my field of work we call two species competition and cooperative model.

It has three equilibriums,

two associated with one species extinct and other survivng.

third where there is equilibirum population of both species.

So the effort is to keep the third a stable equilibirum otherwise

if it is unstable equilibrium, a small disturbance will push the system away from this position towards trajectory of any of the other two equilibriums, that means one species extinct.

That was a rumour! Australia Denied this asylum news!

But there is a long list of asylum seekers in Canada, Norway etc.

 

[Cheetah786]

Ayush;3975740]They are far too obsessed with sunnism rather than nationalism.

This scenario looks like a civil war mate.

You no the saying (you only die once make it count!!!).

 

[khanboy007]

i dont think they'll not do so........or even if they do they cant scan or strip everyone to check weather ones wearing a suicide jacket or not !!!!!!!!

but what they can do is set up a force for their safety with the help of the army or government...which would grant them access to technologies hence forth they will be able to determine who is speaking against them or who is plotting against them......and then later they can take action against them,
just like in many other countries the police is given access to technologies so they can find out who is plotting against the country or an individual,after informing the FC or ARMY of whats to happen, and if they say go for it, then step in for action , the communication between these 2 should not take long so a hotline between the 2 ((FC or Army) and the force) should be established.....


actually the thing is the whole Balochistan region of Pakistan need's a MAJOR OVERHAUL.

 

[mehboobkz]

That was a rumour! Australia Denied this asylum news!

Where is the denial on that? any link?