Pakistan refuses to open India-Afghanistan road link, says conduct trade via Karachi

[Icewolf]

Yaaaa very irrelevant because the great @Icewolf moron in the PDF said so
USA gave you 1 billion aid $ and then bought it back through a 15 heli deal.
Russia's few MI 35 ,an obselete system that India is replacing through LCH and Apache .Sounds great deal

Pak PM visited entire international forum and cried about Kashmir but none of them gave any two hoot to him.The relevancy of Pakistan


US Pres visited India twice but didnt spend an hour in Pakistan .The level of Pakistan relevancy

What aid? Are you stupid, if they are giving aid that means even more bezti for Indians. Obama condemns Lakhvis release but then sends aid and AH-1Z and 1000 Hellfire missiles to Pakistan. Such BEZTI…

Mi-35 is obsolete? Are you out of your mind, Indian?

Those are old days now. Now every major country in the world is coming to Pakistan since Nawaz Sharif came in. No one cares about India. And who cares if US Pres doesn't visit Pakistan. The fact of the matter is US Pres condemned Pakistan while in India, and then sold their most advanced chopper to Pakistan. This is BEZTI. Indians have no respect in the world or otherwise this wouldn't have happened.

In fact to be on par with Pakistan right now, India would have to get $276 BILLION dollars of investment from China right now. Tell me , can India do it?

Irrelevant Indians...

 

[SrNair]

What aid? Are you stupid, if they are giving aid that means even more bezti for Indians. Obama condemns Lakhvis release but then sends aid and AH-1Z and 1000 Hellfire missiles to Pakistan. Such BEZTI…

Mi-35 is obsolete? Are you out of your mind, Indian?

Those are old days now. Now every major country in the world is coming to Pakistan since Nawaz Sharif came in. No one cares about India. And who cares if US Pres doesn't visit Pakistan. The fact of the matter is US Pres condemned Pakistan while in India, and then sold their most advanced chopper to Pakistan. This is BEZTI. Indians have no respect in the world or otherwise this wouldn't have happened.

In fact to be on par with Pakistan right now, India would have to get $276 BILLION dollars of investment from China right now. Tell me , can India do it?

Irrelevant Indians...

You can search in google if you want .We are in a process of removing old Russia Mi series from our inventory.


China announced 46 billion $ but still need a long way to frutify that .Your own experts says it will take at least 2030.At current level we will have around 10 trillion $ +economy at that tume.

Even now we are adding entire Pak GDP in one year.
Shall I post the links of crying politicians during US Pres visit in India ?
Now we are in talks to leaseanother nuke sub for more than 1 billion $ from Russia .That is just one deal

Like I said .Pakistan is total irrelevant to us in foreign policy .

But it seems quite amazing when I see the level of servitude attitude of yours perhaps your nation.
Pakistan did all kind of wetworks for US by taking aides from them but ended up being a failed state.

Now China .



Dude take it from here.There is a hell of difference between India and Pakistan.It seems for our govt the foreign policy with Pakistan is just a hobby for time pass.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

Comparing the animal like Invaders to the centuries old culture of Hindustan.

Which animal and invaders or you referring to ? Probably Aryan invaders that occupied South Asia and enforced racist caste system on the local population. The animal is probably the Holy Gaumata its urine and dung.

 

[Icewolf]

You can search in google if you want .We are in a process of removing old Russia Mi series from our inventory.


China announced 46 billion $ but still need a long way to frutify that .Your own experts says it will take at least 2030.At current level we will have around 10 trillion $ +economy at that tume.

Even now we are adding entire Pak GDP in one year.
Shall I post the links of crying politicians during US Pres visit in India ?
Now we are in talks to leaseanother nuke sub for more than 1 billion $ from Russia .That is just one deal

Like I said .Pakistan is total irrelevant to us in foreign policy .

But it seems quite amazing when I see the level of servitude attitude of yours perhaps your nation.
Pakistan did all kind of wetworks for US by taking aides from them but ended up being a failed state.

Now China .



Dude take it from here.There is a hell of difference between India and Pakistan.It seems for our govt the foreign policy with Pakistan is just a hobby for time pass.

Who cares what India does? Mi-35 is still one of the best choppers in the world.

Actually, it will take until 2020 for the investment to fructify. Thats when all of the projects are going to be done.

 

[I M Sikander]

Here is a genius who thinks that material goods will move automatically.

Only an idiot suicide bomber like you will target a goods truck.

 

[MilSpec]

Can Chabahar even handle that amount of volume? Its not a deep water port like Gwadar. More like a sleepy port village.

What about Iran? Is Irans roads capable to handle that amount of goods?

And please stop with the BS. India is not for development of Afghanistan. Countries trade for money, for their own personal interest, not for others.

Plus, who will buy Indian goods so expensive in Afghanistan? Its one of the poorest countries of the world.
For example, if a Indian toy is 90 rs to sell in Afghanistan, and an Afghani toy is 30 rs, tell me which one are you going to buy? Vice versa as well.

This is why Indians need Pakistan. No transit route until India matures up

Stable, democratic and peaceful Afghanistan is in the interest of India.
Trade is not limited to some obscure toys, but much more substantial machine tools, supplies and goods to drive infrastructure and development in Afghanistan.

 

[Tiger Genie]

This is hilarious. Pak guys are actually arguing that denying Afghanistan is somehow good for Pakistan? You just cannot stop shooting yourselves in your feet and the cry hopping mad! Dumbos - don't you see the Indo-Afghan game here? the more you deny Afghans the route the more it turns them against you and the more it endears them to India. Afghan impex is miniscule and strategic transshipments are not cost sensitive. Net net Ghani really did a number on you guys with a simple statement.

Next time Gen.Sherief vacations in Kabul poor guy will be served junk from Pakistan instead to make a point!

 

[hussain0216]

This is hilarious. Pak guys are actually arguing that denying Afghanistan is somehow good for Pakistan? You just cannot stop shooting yourselves in your feet and the cry hopping mad! Dumbos - don't you see the Indo-Afghan game here? the more you deny Afghans the route the more it turns them against you and the more it endears them to India. Afghan impex is miniscule and strategic transshipments are not cost sensitive. Net net Ghani really did a number on you guys with a simple statement.

Next time Gen.Sherief vacations in Kabul poor guy will be served junk from Pakistan instead to make a point!

Your perception of international relations is like that of a teenage girl

 

[FaujHistorian]

Stable, democratic and peaceful Afghanistan is in the interest of India.
Trade is not limited to some obscure toys, but much more substantial machine tools, supplies and goods to drive infrastructure and development in Afghanistan.

Bhai Jaan MilSpec

India destabilized Afghanistan from 1947. No need to issue baboo sermons.


Thank you.

Your perception of international relations is like that of a teenage girl

hahahah

Well put bhai jaan

 

[MilSpec]

Bhai Jaan MilSpec

India destabilized Afghanistan from 1947. No need to issue baboo sermons.


Thank you.

Bhai jaan you got the countries mixed up.

 

[9876]

Why should Pakistan act in Afghanistan's and India's best interest at a cost to our own national interest? A deal will probably be struck eventually but only when there is a proportionate benefit to Pakistan.

 

[MadDog]

Yaaaa very irrelevant because the great @Icewolf moron in the PDF said so
USA gave you 1 billion aid $ and then bought it back through a 15 heli deal.
Russia's few MI 35 ,an obselete system that India is replacing through LCH and Apache .Sounds great deal

Pak PM visited entire international forum and cried about Kashmir but none of them gave any two hoot to him.The relevancy of Pakistan


US Pres visited India twice but didnt spend an hour in Pakistan .The level of Pakistan relevancy

Kiddo, you are comparing apples with oranges, when you compare Mi 35 with Apache, Americans are selling you apache, probably around 18-20 helecopters, they are selling us AH-1Z , 15 of them, which are equal interms of performance and infact in a duel , it would take down Apache as it has 2 sidewinder air to air missiles, which Apache lacks, the only country other than Pakistan to use AH-1Z would be US itself, as it is in service with US marines. India has old versions of Mi 24/35 gunships, Pakistan is getting upgraded Mi-35 Hind E, version still in service with Russian forces themselves, and the concept of getting it as a troop carrier for counter terror ops, and at the same time it does the role of attack hele which Mi 17 lacks, there were also talks about Mi 28, and along with that Z-10, which the chinese have even sent to us free of cost to test them in war on terror, to see if they need any improvements. Mi-35, Mi- 28 , AH-1Z and Z-10 combined together will have a hell lot of more force than the choppers you would posses, around 20 Apache gunships won't be enough to counter Pakistan's gunships.
Pakistan by the end of 2015 would become the only country in the entire world to hold military exercises with US, Russia, China, Saudis and Turkey in just One Year. Pakistan is rising as a strong force in the region, which is why it is playing a major role in solving Afghan crisis (talks with talibs started in Qatar on Pak's pressure, as talibs weren't willing to come to table otherwise) and yemen crisis, Saudis depend on it incase they face an invasion in future and Iranians sent their FM , they knew Pak's importance in the region, it is only the Indians whose Modi Orgasm is still not ending !!!

 

[That Guy]

Pakistan is doing the logical thing, and protecting it's interests. Increased economic trade between Pakistan and Afghanistan, end of terror havens in the tribal region, and forcing the Afghan taliban to the negotiating table, all these have been fulfilled by Pakistan's side, Afghanistan has yet to fulfill it's side of the bargin. Afghan military operations against the ttp have pretty much stalled, mostly due to domestic political pressure (accusations of appeasing Pakistan), Afghanistan has yet to agree to fully cooperate along the border, and take military cooperation to the next level between the two neighbors. Trade between Afghanistan and India is fine, they can even use Pakistan ports, but land route is a red line: there is little reason for Pakistan to trust that India won't try and misuse a land route against Pakistani interests.

There is this mistaken idea in Afghanistan that Pakistan needs Afghanistan to access central Asia, that's simply not true. Pakistan already has access to central Asia through alternative land routes, such as through China, and trade has indeed been flowing through such a route for a long while. Afghanistan makes things cheaper, but Pakistan doesn't need Afghanistan.

Afghanistan, on the other hand, needs Pakistan. Not only is Pakistan Afghanistan's largest trading partner, the volume of trade is set to increase dramatically within the next 5 years, making Afghanistan highly dependent on Pakistani markets. India's plan to operate Chahabar port is welcome, but despite bravado from some Indian and some Afghan nationalists, it won't change the dynamic of economic flow too dramatically, as the port will need a decade to be fully operational and another decade to be at full capacity, and even then, trade between Pakistan and Afghanistan will continue to grow at a dramatic rate.

tl;dr Pakistan is going to pull a China/India, and use economics to get Afghanistan to fall in line.

 

[my2cents]

They are nicely parked at home....no need for them to wander and cry


We are not interested in wasting our resources for your sake....those personnel to check you guys are busy killing terrorist..

I dont know why afghanistan is soo desperate to trade with india when it has the whole of central asia as a market!

They don't have same market or population like we have. What is the logic in allowing from Karachi port but not via land??

 

[Dubious]

What is the logic in allowing from Karachi port but not via land??

We have an active port where customs and security are established so why not use it? What logic is there not to use a ready port?