Pakistan Railways to get engines from India

[deckingraj]

India's locomotives are based on GE and Alco designs which are old and gas guzzlers. Iranian locomotives on the other hand are based on EuroRunner and Alstom which are newer and much more fuel efficient. With high fuel prices the choice is obvious. If Pakistan gets the Indian deal then our foreign policy get weakened. What kind of a message would we be sending to Kashmiris? But if we get the Iranian deal then our foreign policy would be stronger since we would be making Americans behave. This is called killing two birds with one stone.

What???? what kind of weird logic is this??? Doing business with a country which is heavily sanctioned is insane especially when other alternatives are present...How come this has anything to do with foreign policy???

b/w I am still not clear about how are you planning to pay them??? Keep in mind foreign reserves are not meant to be used to pay for such deals/trade etc...Think of it like that - Pakistan has to sell her gold to pay Iran...You would not want to do that, do you???

Not that one cannot deal with Iran but dealing with Iran in present circumstances is very difficult...

 

[Pakistanisage]

Are you insane? What you are saying amounts to Pakistan being diluted in the huge belly of India. Is that what you want things to go. Then why we made Pakistan in the first place?

I THINK YOU HAVE A "DEFEATIST" ATTITUDE AND MENTALITY. ARE YOU SAYING TO ME THAT PAKISTANIS YOU HAVE ZERO TALENT AND WILL NOT BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND THE COMPETITION ? MY FRIEND WE PAKISTANIS ARE A VERY TALENTED AND RESOURCEFUL PEOPLE. WHENEVER WE GET EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES WE EXCEL AND SHOW OUR COLORS. IN THE WEST WE FUNCTION WITH GREAT PRIDE AND HAVE EARNED OUR COLORS BECAUSE OF OUR TALENTS AND RESOURCEFULLNESS. WE ARE DOCTORS,LAWYERS, ACCOUNTANTS, ENGINEERS AND UNIVERSITY PROFESSORS IN THE WORLDS MOST ADVANCED COUNTRIES AND HAVE EARNED A REPUTATION AS HARDWORKING PEOPLE. HAVE FAITH IN YOURSELF AND DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE YOURSELF. LOOK WHAT OUR ATHLETES AND SINGERS HAVE DONE IN INDIA ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT ANY HELP FROM PAK GOVT. WE CAN COMPETE WITH THE BEST AND HOLD OUR OWN. PLEASE SHED THIS ATTITUDE THAT WE ARE DIFFERENT THAN INDIANS. WE ARE SAME PEOPLE AND SAME RACE. JUST BECAUSE OUR HINDU ANCESTERS CONVERTED TO ISLAM DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE A DIFFERENT RACE. PLEASE LEARN YOUR HISTORY. WE ARE SAME PEOPLE.

 

[Nothing]

India's locomotives are based on GE and Alco designs which are old and gas guzzlers. Iranian locomotives on the other hand are based on EuroRunner and Alstom which are newer and much more fuel efficient. With high fuel prices the choice is obvious. If Pakistan gets the Indian deal then our foreign policy get weakened. What kind of a message would we be sending to Kashmiris? But if we get the Iranian deal then our foreign policy would be stronger since we would be making Americans behave. This is called killing two birds with one stone.

First decide you care about Kashmir or revival of PR .....
Indian Railway use GE designs... but new engines are much more improved version of their old siblings... new designs like WDP–4B which has 6 traction motors (Co-Co). In addition, the traction motors have individual inverters, so that in the case of one inverter failing, 5 traction motors are still available, allowing the loco to reach its destination under reduced power. The WDP-4B also has a provision for an inverter-driven head-end power unit, allowing running trains without a generating car (EOG) for hotel power.

There are many more improved designs which need on once in 90 days return journey to shed for maintenance...
I think it will be easy for PR to train its staff for Indian loco as well ...

 

[superNova]

waste of money, and what better can be expected, neither chinese nor indian engines should be imported, rather than american engines

 

[Desert Fox]

WHY NOT CUT THRU THIS CRAP AND MAKE A FEDERATION OR SOUTH ASIAN UNION. OPEN THE DAMN BORDERS AND LET FREE TRADE RULE. HAVE A COMMON CURRENCY LIKE EU AND HAVE A LOVE FEST. I DIG INDIAN CHICKS , LET US MAKE LOVE NOT WAR. WHAT SAYS YOU ??????

WTF, hell noooo! Are you out of your mind?

 

[Desert Fox]

I THINK YOU HAVE A "DEFEATIST" ATTITUDE AND MENTALITY. ARE YOU SAYING TO ME THAT PAKISTANIS YOU HAVE ZERO TALENT AND WILL NOT BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND THE COMPETITION ? MY FRIEND WE PAKISTANIS ARE A VERY TALENTED AND RESOURCEFUL PEOPLE. WHENEVER WE GET EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES WE EXCEL AND SHOW OUR COLORS. IN THE WEST WE FUNCTION WITH GREAT PRIDE AND HAVE EARNED OUR COLORS BECAUSE OF OUR TALENTS AND RESOURCEFULLNESS. WE ARE DOCTORS,LAWYERS, ACCOUNTANTS, ENGINEERS AND UNIVERSITY PROFESSORS IN THE WORLDS MOST ADVANCED COUNTRIES AND HAVE EARNED A REPUTATION AS HARDWORKING PEOPLE. HAVE FAITH IN YOURSELF AND DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE YOURSELF. LOOK WHAT OUR ATHLETES AND SINGERS HAVE DONE IN INDIA ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT ANY HELP FROM PAK GOVT. WE CAN COMPETE WITH THE BEST AND HOLD OUR OWN. PLEASE SHED THIS ATTITUDE THAT WE ARE DIFFERENT THAN INDIANS. WE ARE SAME PEOPLE AND SAME RACE. JUST BECAUSE OUR HINDU ANCESTERS CONVERTED TO ISLAM DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE A DIFFERENT RACE. PLEASE LEARN YOUR HISTORY. WE ARE SAME PEOPLE.

WTF??? Your nothing but a troll. And from your posts you are deffinitely not a Pakistani.

 

[VelocuR]

Wrong title.

"Pakistan Railways is considering a proposal to get 50 locomotives on rent from India to help normalise its rail operation from Khyber to Karachi."

 

[Zeeshan360]

Wrong title.

"Pakistan Railways is considering a proposal to get 50 locomotives on rent from India to help normalise its rail operation from Khyber to Karachi."

Who cares .
Anyways it's not gonna be passed

 

[Imran Khan]

its ok its ok i am not angry or sad for corporate with india but i am sick from this white elephant god damn loser corrupt railway of pakistan .

 

[Zeeshan360]

WTF??? Your nothing but a troll. And from your posts you are deffinitely not a Pakistani.

So the one who has different point of view than u automatically becomes a non pakistani

 

[gubbi]

Please stop saying "lubes".

You delinquent perv!!

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I see no problem the Engines are needed urgently

 

[Imran Khan]

Please stop saying "lubes".

you should wash your brain with this lolz hahahaha

 

[aakash_2410]

why so much hue and cry over engines because they're INDIAN??

Pakistan needs to stop treating India as an enemy number 1.

We need more co-operation.

 

[Imran Khan]

why so much hue and cry over engines because they're INDIAN??

Pakistan needs to stop treating India as an enemy number 1.

We need more co-operation.

you read only posts of members who disagree ?