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Pakistan PM Raja Pervez Ashraf to visit Indian shrine in Ajmer

He is coming on a personal religious visit, what is wrong with you people.
Welcome to Raja saheb.
 
Sufism islam and the Sufi's that spread islam in the subcontinent were totally Different things the ones that spread islam we called them sufi's out of respect and not molvi's becasue they had deeper understanding of islam then Molvi's Just like ISlamic Scholars now a days (some of them are extremist now though) SO dont confuse it with sufi islam and Also If islam was spread on sword then you would not have your ancient Mandirs in Baharat now because look at what talibans did to the buddhist artifacts in afghanistan, Dont blind yourself about islam in light of hatered towards pakistanis and pakistan

If it was the Sufi saints who converted you out of love and you were really impressed with their teachings, then that means you were impressed with Sufism and not Islam.

How can sufi saints preach real Islam when they themselves dont practise real Islam ?

p.s: Most ancient mandirs in North India were destroyed and were rebuilt only later after the Mughals were vanquished like Mathura or Kashi..

Come to South India, places like Tamil Nadu, to see the real splendor of Hindu architecture that was thankfully saved from those islamic barbarians.
 
If it was the Sufi saints who converted you out of love and you were really impressed with their teachings, then that means you were impressed with Sufism and not Islam.

How can sufi saints preach real Islam when they themselves dont practise real Islam ?

p.s: Most ancient mandirs in North India were destroyed and were rebuilt only later after the Mughals were vanquished like Mathura or Kashi..

Come to South India, places like Tamil Nadu, to see the real splendor of Hindu architecture that was thankfully saved from those islamic barbarians.

Okay Bro I am going to Say this again the guys that Spread Islam WE DId not Call them MOlvi's or Saints Saints is a christian word IN ISLAM Siants are know as Sufis and SUFI ISLAM Has Nothing to Do with Saints/SUFIs
and If They destroyed all the sites How would you know that it was the Holly site for hindus their Mughals made a lot of architects and you are saying that they would destroy a place and not build on it what kind of logic you posses and muslims ruled for 1000 years So all those Sites that you claimed were destroyed hindus from generation to generation rembered it and mark the location in One day of Restoring these

REstoring old sites have nothing to do with your brainwashed agenda against pakistan and muslims if that was the case you would have not Seen all the Old Egyptian Monuments and Historic sites in Egypt because according to you ISLAM SPREAD ON SWORD and FORCEFULLY CONVERTED EVERY ONE
See how idoitic this sound

Okay Bro I am going to Say this again the guys that Spread Islam WE DId not Call them MOlvi's or Saints Saints is a christian word IN ISLAM Siants are know as Sufis and SUFI ISLAM Has Nothing to Do with Saints/SUFIs
and If They destroyed all the sites How would you know that it was the Holly site for hindus their Mughals made a lot of architects and you are saying that they would destroy a place and not build on it what kind of logic you posses and muslims ruled for 1000 years So all those Sites that you claimed were destroyed hindus from generation to generation rembered it and mark the location in One day of Restoring these

REstoring old sites have nothing to do with your brainwashed agenda against pakistan and muslims if that was the case you would have not Seen all the Old Egyptian Monuments and Historic sites in Egypt because according to you ISLAM SPREAD ON SWORD and FORCEFULLY CONVERTED EVERY ONE
See how idoitic this sound

And they were Called Sufi's after their Death and where they were buried know we have Mazars like how this corrupt PM is going to visit

Like i said Dont blind your hatered towards islam in light of your hatered for pakistanis andpakistan
 
Okay Bro I am going to Say this again the guys that Spread Islam WE DId not Call them MOlvi's or Saints Saints is a christian word IN ISLAM Siants are know as Sufis and SUFI ISLAM Has Nothing to Do with Saints/SUFIs

You are just rehashing the same thing. Sufi Islam has everything to do with the Sufis..how can you separate the version of Islam the Sufis preached from the Sufis themselves ?


and If They destroyed all the sites How would you know that it was the Holly site for hindus their Mughals made a lot of architects and you are saying that they would destroy a place and not build on it what kind of logic you posses and muslims ruled for 1000 years So all those Sites that you claimed were destroyed hindus from generation to generation rembered it and mark the location in One day of Restoring these

First of all Mughals did not rule for 1000 years. The entire Muslim rule was limited to about 500 odd years and yes, in India we have a practise of handing down legends down generations and we know which site was destroyed. Also we have scriptures which denote temples existed in which and which place.

And most importantly the Islamic barbarians themselves wrote poems glorifying their acts of destroying temples & other places of study (for example the destruction of Nalanda university is given in detail in the Tabiqat-i-nasri by Persian historian Minhaj-us-Siraj) and their firmans also confirm who destroyed which temple.

For example, these are the collection of Aurangazeb's firmans - Aurangzeb, as he was according to Mughal Records


REstoring old sites have nothing to do with your brainwashed agenda against pakistan and muslims if that was the case you would have not Seen all the Old Egyptian Monuments and Historic sites in Egypt because according to you ISLAM SPREAD ON SWORD and FORCEFULLY CONVERTED EVERY ONE

I dont care what happened or did not happen in Egypt. Effin barbarians did mess up most of the temples and places of learning wherever they could in India and that is fact confirmed even in their own biograpies and firmans. For example Mathura Krishna temple was demolished by Aurangazeb and the gyanvapi mosque was built on top of it.
 
WHat ever Bro "SUFI ISLAM" is not even In Arab or Muslim Countries except one and pakistan is like 1000s of miles away from It and your wrong saying ISlam SPreadED on The Sword No it did not while your religion has caste system where their are untouchables and lower class and when most of them Converted to ISlam the Hindus rulers got mad and started attacking them and then the First Invasion Came via Muhammad Bin Qasim

So You and ur Educational System is biased because fact remains the same that their are many of the historic hindu sites that were not destroyed by muslim rulers may be some i can tell you how after the muslim invasion the British invaded now we have two countries which dont like each other So After Muslim Invasion even if you wanted to Restore those Sites the Muslims Let you do it So that shows that muslims were not barbaric and also the first islam spreaded in india through those that were locking for different books to study and translate to arabic BBC has a documentry on it about early Science and ISlamic Role and when Pundits told Hindu rulers that they are loosing their working class he strated killing them and only then Muhammad bin qasim came and after him other muslims came to fight each other and hindus never gain power after that and even now you dont have complete hindu power in india because their are muslims in the government
SO in a Sence MUSLIMS dominated India once they strated conquest to save muslims here that converted during the time of traders and then after that hindu Rule never came into power since then and its been 1000s of years now
 
@imran_ind

See buddy, everyone has a way to approach God. What's wrong with presenting it in some other form ? Won't God want me to follow a life of good person but decide which one is correct way and which one is wrong.

I don't care what Bollywood portrays because I am interested in knowing more about Islam. Not because I don't find Hinduism good, but I like to know about other religions too as I learn my religion too.

So don't take me wrong, I respect what you say. I am just against the words people used to demean others, look down upon few.
 
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Why do Pakistani politicians visit India every time they have an election?

they are shaitan n...and shaitan cannot enter in makkah in Khan e kaba thats why these shaitan went to india to tease and disturb wali Allah..trust me:omghaha:

btw where were you from so many days??did you finshed reading your book?

Swagat hai Raja Saheb....

in sab hatiyaron k saath j tumharay saath hai very good...dekho jab woh aye tu bhala surr pay zore se day maarna shyed manhoos admi ko aqal ajaye...:rofl:
 
they are shaitan n...and shaitan cannot enter in makkah in Khan e kaba thats why these shaitan went to india to tease and disturb wali Allah..trust me:omghaha:

btw where were you from so many days??did you finshed reading your book?



in sab hatiyaron k saath j tumharay saath hai very good...dekho jab woh aye tu bhala surr pay zore se day maarna shyed manhoos admi ko aqal ajaye...:rofl:

Didn't find anything to comment on, no still reading the book anymore books on spirituality?
 
For those who have insulted Sufism, should be banned since they have used derogatory words instead of debating like civilize men. But maybe its too much to ask from are salafi brothers who love to use suicide bombing as a excuse to kill innocent people. If you did your research Ajmer is a place where the poor get food and shelter, because the great sufi of the past made a wish for his students to carry out such a good pious tasks. Within this place it does not matter if you are Hindu, Sikh, christian, Buddhists or Muslim as everyone is treated equally. Seriously Salafism need to work on there PR skills.

For Indians who ask why Muslims love to visit this place is simple...the Sufi teacher is regarded as the greatest in the sub-continent region of Indo-Pak hence it is a great honor to visit and pay respect to him. In Sufism we don't worship the grave...misconception, although a few uneducated fools do
 
Didn't find anything to comment on, no still reading the book anymore books on spirituality?

just finish the previous one,bhai...then we will look for more Inshallah:smitten:

For those who have insulted Sufism, should be banned since they have used derogatory words instead of debating like civilize men. But maybe its too much to ask from are salafi brothers who love to use suicide bombing as a excuse to kill innocent people. If you did your research Ajmer is a place where the poor get food and shelter, because the great sufi of the past made a wish for his students to carry out such a good pious tasks. Within this place it does not matter if you are Hindu, Sikh, christian, Buddhists or Muslim as everyone is treated equally. Seriously Salafism need to work on there PR skills.

For Indians who ask why Muslims love to visit this place is simple...the Sufi teacher is regarded as the greatest in the sub-continent region of Indo-Pak hence it is a great honor to visit and pay respect to him. In Sufism we don't worship the grave...misconception, although a few uneducated fools do

let me "amplify" this to guys....worshipping anyone else besides Allah is strictly haram,whether he is sufi,prophet or anyone else.
But yes,sufis and prophets and auliyas are Allah's vercergent,and of high impotrance,..!!
 

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