Pakistan opposes new permanent members to UNSC

[INS_Vikrant]

Ground reality is that India was, is and will remain in foreseeable future a poor third world country.

So was China when it got it was awarded one

It will come within a decade, I guarentee it.

All assuming Indian Public dont mess up in 2019

 

[Abingdonboy]

All assuming Indian Public dont mess up in 2019

It's not Modi-dependant but, yes, a clown like Rahul Gandhi being made PM would set back India and its interests many fold across the board by at least a decade.

 

[randomradio]

Pakistan is not a major asian power for your knowledge.China have land and sea dispute with many countries and that is not new.Japan is a staunch ally of US but their relative power is decreasing because of their economy and low military spending.Japan is not that important as they are in a decade back with 2nd largest economy behind US.Tell me which country does not have issues in world stage, don't tell me sweden,finland etc as they are small country,few population and relatively small economy even though they are developed countries.

Major asian powers are china,japan,india and to less extend saudi arabia,korea,indonesia,turkey etc.



Like it or not this is the reality

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You can't find pakistan in any place !

It's more important to change the Group of Two to Group of Three.

UNSC be damned, it's entirely irrelevant. All future decisions will be made by the Group of Two. Even a country like Russia won't be able to interfere with those decisions in a big way.

 

[Serpentine]

The whole UNSC thing is basically the rule of jungle, not only no new members should be added, but the existing 5 member system should be dismantled too. 5 nations involved in most killings and sufferings of the world in past centuries get to decide for world's 'peace and security', just ridiculous.

 

[Soulspeek]

Still... Our imagination is not as fertile as great Nostradamus of South Asia... His excellency Sir Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid the Great..!

Yes keep imagining not going to happen

 

[Taimoor Khan]

So was China when it got it was awarded one



All assuming Indian Public dont mess up in 2019

Dont compare yourself with China. China has always been a major player in geopolitics. It deserve its global status, you simply havent earned your rights, far from it.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

These figures are from the IMF and collated by an independant entity ; PWC that is well respected all over the world.

https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/issues/the-economy/assets/world-in-2050-february-2015.pdf

Just because you don't like the facts, doesn't make them wrong.

The problem I have with the chart you shown is based on the GDP figures which are by no mean "independant" . GDP figures are published by the state. India is known to fudge GDP figures. These are the figures which PWC quoted as well. No bigge!

Even the RBI’s Rajan is Confused by India’s New GDP Numbers - India Real Time - WSJ

Doubting India's 'fastest-growing' GDP stats, economists devise their own - Business - DAWN.COM

6.9% growth? World laughing at this bad joke - TOI Blogs

Technically speaking India is a lower middle income country

More of world's poor live in India than in all sub-Saharan Africa, says study | World news | The Guardian

Perhaps "technically" speaking the sub sahara people are lower middle income as well.

I don't think you know what that term means, it really isn't a derogatory phrase despite how you have used it.

Really?

And why not?

Beucase you are poor thrild world country. should be obvious!

Says you, the facts speak for themselves.

You cant even block those lousy F16s by requesting your sponsor and mentor Uncle Sam, should be a tele tele sign as to how much you lot worth in geopolitics. The fact is your influence ends with states like Bhuttan, Nepal, Bangladesh. You can add Aghansitan to that list as well only thanks to America. Your area of influence and operations is pretty local. Hardly a global player.

On the contrary, India is feircly independant and exercises this against the "Anglo Saxons"

Your name was given to you by the Anglo Saxons, the word India and Indians. Plus beggars cant be choosers. You are playing a very convenient local game, which is to be a nuisance for Pakistan and China for your western masters. And that is your bread in butter.

India biggest recipient of US economic assistance over 66-year period: USAID - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Already India has global interests and as its economy grows these will expand.

Please read above.

Pakistan is a asian power ? from when ? lol

Btw india and china will eventually solve their disputes on table as they are minor, and its inevitable for both.
Then india will just have pakistan to take care of and we will not want to resolve any dispute with pakistan. Its fun in this stalemate.

Not only Asian but very active player in global geo politics. India is more or less reduced to south Asia with its fetish for browine points that it receive by western master , to be a nuisance for both Pakistan and China.

Pakistan is not a major asian power for your knowledge.China have land and sea dispute with many countries and that is not new.Japan is a staunch ally of US but their relative power is decreasing because of their economy and low military spending.Japan is not that important as they are in a decade back with 2nd largest economy behind US.Tell me which country does not have issues in world stage, don't tell me sweden,finland etc as they are small country,few population and relatively small economy even though they are developed countries.

Major asian powers are china,japan,india and to less extend saudi arabia,korea,indonesia,turkey etc.



Like it or not this is the reality

Emerging power - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Potential superpowers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You can't find pakistan in any place !

Pakistan actually is not Asian but rather global player with active participation in matters of global importance and significance. India is pretty much reduced to countries as Nepal, Bhuttan , Bangladesh when it comes to the sphere of influence.

 

[911]

India biggest recipient of US economic assistance over 66-year period: USAID - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

India got 66b and Pakistan got 44b. Now compare the size and population of both countries. Moreover, these so called aid caused more problems than solving, via NGOs.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

India got 66b and Pakistan got 44b. Now compare the size and population of both countries. Moreover, these so called aid caused more problems than solving, via NGOs.

Size and population doesnt matter, otherwise try to explain Israel in the list which stand second highest receiver of american AID AFTER India. The fact is that 66billbions were pumped into India. This actually is quite astonishing because for majority of Indian history specially during the cold war, India was in soviet camp, opposite America.

 

[TaiwanNumba1]

Size and population doesnt matter, otherwise try to explain Israel in the list which stand second highest receiver of american AID AFTER India. The fact is that 66billbions were pumped into India. This actually is quite astonishing because for majority of Indian history specially during the cold war, India was in soviet camp, opposite America.

Your example fails to prove the point you are trying to make . Israel is not only a smaller country its also a non NGO benefactor , the money was funneled as military aid . if anything you are supporting his statement .


India was never on any sides , go brush up on the non alignment movement . India was closer to the Soviets since they were closer to India, It's that simple .

USA tried/still does include aid programs along with various bilateral contracts , defence deals to strengthen its ties with India .

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Get yourself a chaarpai and put it outside UN HQ instead.

.....This was a good one.

 

[Shariq786]

Pakistan is a nation build on single narrative. All its foreign policy and even domestic politics is governed by anti India policy. So this opposition is simply the reflection of this.

AND AN INDIAN is saying that hypocrisy at its peak

Concessions to Pakistan: India opposes EU trade relief, again - The Express Tribune
'Disappointed' India summons US ambassador over sale of F-16s to Pakistan - Pakistan - DAWN.COM (8 F-16 and INDIA looses it mind)

AND don't know how many more and they say we have no INDIA policy only.......

Try to visit those threads where your INDIAN members always say that INDIA will do whatever it is in her interest than whats wrong with us doing the same ????

 

[calmDown@all]

AND AN INDIAN is saying that hypocrisy at its peak

Concessions to Pakistan: India opposes EU trade relief, again - The Express Tribune
'Disappointed' India summons US ambassador over sale of F-16s to Pakistan - Pakistan - DAWN.COM (8 F-16 and INDIA looses it mind)

AND don't know how many more and they say we have no INDIA policy only.......

Try to visit those threads where your INDIAN members always say that INDIA will do whatever it is in her interest than whats wrong with us doing the same ????

The WTO General Council meeting ended inconclusively due to continuous opposition by India and other nations including Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Vietnam.

The council’s inability to convince India may also slow the momentum of trade liberalisation between India and Pakistan, as all hopes of India withdrawing its opposition have been dashed in the wake of Pakistan’s refusal to grant New Delhi the Most Favoured Nation status.
Concessions to Pakistan: India opposes EU trade relief, again - The Express Tribune
Dawn News say,s every thing

 

[Shariq786]

The WTO General Council meeting ended inconclusively due to continuous opposition by India and other nations including Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Vietnam.

The council’s inability to convince India may also slow the momentum of trade liberalisation between India and Pakistan, as all hopes of India withdrawing its opposition have been dashed in the wake of Pakistan’s refusal to grant New Delhi the Most Favoured Nation status.
Concessions to Pakistan: India opposes EU trade relief, again - The Express Tribune
Dawn News say,s every thing

And INDIA opposes EU trade relief because PAK refused to give " New Delhi the Most Favoured Nation status" so if PAK decides not to give MFN to INDIA than INDIA will oppose anything from which will benefit PAK thats like you trying to dictate our Foreign Policy

NO sovereign country will give rights to India to dictate atleast not Pak if we don't wanna grant you MFN than we won't but in return you tell other nations not to give us benefits either NICE

EITHER way the POINT was that every country will do whatever is in its self interest calling PAK Foreign policy INDIA centric is same as calling INDIA has a Pak centric Foriegn policy

 

[waz]

I remember Indian posts from ten years back, outlining how they would be a permanent member of the UNSC. Ten years from now, we'll see the same posts, and the mention of another ten year time frame.