Pakistan opened Torkham, Chaman borders for four days for Afghans to leave

[RealNapster]

You yourself as Pushtoons Don't even allow own Pakistani Punjabi or other non pushtoon ethnicities I'm your areas, despite them being Muslims.Zero Punjabi population in Waziristan for example or even in charsadda, which is a city

Do Pashtoon want to visit and live in Cities like Quetta, lahore, larachi, faislabad, islamabad, rawalpindi? Answer is yes.

Do punjabis want to live in waziristan, wana, bannu, dara adam khel, laki marwat, karak?, answer is NO.

Simple thing of choices. No oje stoping you from living there. Well actually one entity will stoo you from living in waziristan and thats Pakistan army. Not people of Waziristan. Even native people are f other distructs of KP till now couldnt visit those districts, people of waziristan itslef needed "visa" to visit their towns. Other discmtricts people were no chance, you we can visit but we still need some one from those lands to take our guarantee. And its because army dont allow that. No issue from locals.

 

[Lincoln]

Bless you brother, if we trust in Allah we will be successful, my only desire in this life is to live under an Islamic system, and hopefully both our governments can make a deal for dual citizenship... I wholeheartedly believe that our model in coming times will be an inspiration to other Muslim nations.



I understand you want to live in a Secular society, and I don't believe in forcing an Islamic system, but you need to understand that there are some of us that wish to live in an Islamic system, a country like Saudi is nationalistic and very racist towards non-Saudis even to their own Arabs... I simply want this in my country, it doesn't have to be all regions, but specific regions that are majority in favor of it.

Tell me is it fair that you get to live in a secular society wherever it is, but I can't live in the society of my choice, is my right less than yours? Do you want me to speak in Pashto or Farsi to prove that I am an Afghan?

No, in fact, I personally believe that countries should be allowed to place in whatever political system they deem appropriate, and others should not interfere. Some things work better for others, and it doesn't work better for another group.

My point was simple. Your talk of a political system should be restricted to Afghanistan, because you're an Afghan. Hey, that is in tune with your point of view. So apply it.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Looking at these videos, I will have to take back some of my criticism on Iran.

O cual Yaar.
Your ethnic loyalty for "Akhpal margaray" is higher than logical thinking.
This selective use of Islam is what I am against.
You yourself as Pushtoons Don't even allow own Pakistani Punjabi or other non pushtoon ethnicities I'm your areas, despite them being Muslims.Zero Punjabi population in Waziristan for example or even in charsadda, which is a city.
Then you don't remember Islam and Muslim brotherhood?
But when it comes to Afghan then you disguise your ethnic loyalty towards them into Islam.

No one speficially banned Punjabis from living in KPK, and I know many who moved there for work.

 

[Zhukov]

jaahil dunger ganwaar afghans but they are all Muslims, right ?. people of Nuh(pbup) laugh on their foot and you are the nation to witness what happened to them and become warner for next nations. Iblees also compare same qualities that you mentioned with Adam, Does Allah appreciated it? my job is done here. you laugh or comments it is all your will, like NUH(pbuh) nation.

Ok brother hold on. You just jumped straight from modern National State Politics to Ancient Era of Prophets. Such Oversimplified Black and White Comparisons without any context and Logic are always misleading. their is no "Muslim vs Non Muslim" zero sum Equation.

Pick your Side
Doctor APJ Kalam (Neuclear Physicist and Father of Atomic Bomb of India Ex-President of India), Molvi Fazlullah, Hawaldar Abdul Hamid (Indian Soldier receiving Param Vir Chakar for Bravely fighting against Pakistan army), Tarek Fateh , Altaf Hussain, Hyrbyair Marri,
Vs
Justice Rana Baghwan Das (Honorable Chief Justice of Pakistan), General Julian Peter (Hilal e Imtiaz), Air Comodore Nazir Latif (Sitara e Jurrat), General Iftikhar Janjua (Died Fighting for Pakistan in 1971 War at the rank of Major General!!!), Mahesh Kumar Malani (Pakistani MNA), General Abdul Ali Malik (The war Hero of Chawinda front in 1965 war)

In modern world, Its not about name or mere religion by birth. Its all about Choices.The one Who choose to become my enemy and want my blood or blood of my brother is my enemy. No rocket science. Afghan King Invaded Newly formed state of Pakistan. Defied National boundary of Pakistan. Killed Countless of my Pakistani Pashtuun brothers in frontier region when afghans had power and we were weak. For what? Unjustified claim over Pakistani Land,(Pakistan never claimed any Afghan Land). It is not according to Islamic teaching if you think repelling and Killing an invader is not allowed if he is a Muslim.
No ,Afghan is not your brother merely because he is called Muhammad Afzalzai unless he leaves his unjustified claim over Pakistani Lands and accept our Border instead of leaving no chance to kill Pakistanis and create trouble in our border be it Baluch nationalists, Tribal Religious Extremists, PTM like Pashtuun Separatists.

I would put my trust in General Julian Peter instead of General Abdul Razzaq and if you are wise my brother and love your family you would do the same.
Choose Mahesh Kumar Malani over Assadudin Awaisi any day

To make things more simple. I would choose the Land owner Jew of Madina who use to employ many Poor Muslims on his agricultural Lands and remained loyal to the government of Prophet Muhammad SAW and Caliphs till his death and the Christian Slaves who fought alongside the Muslim Government Armies over the Muslims who declared war on Caliphate right after Death of Prophet Muhammad SAW at the first chance they got.

 

[xyx007]

Ok brother hold on. You just jumped straight from modern National State Politics to Ancient Era of Prophets. Such Oversimplified Black and White Comparisons without any context and Logic are always misleading. their is no "Muslim vs Non Muslim" zero sum Equation.

Pick your Side
Doctor APJ Kalam (Neuclear Physicist and Father of Atomic Bomb of India Ex-President of India), Molvi Fazlullah, Hawaldar Abdul Hamid (Indian Soldier receiving Param Vir Chakar for Bravely fighting against Pakistan army), Tarek Fateh , Altaf Hussain, Hyrbyair Marri,
Vs
Justice Rana Baghwan Das (Honorable Chief Justice of Pakistan), General Julian Peter (Hilal e Imtiaz), Air Comodore Nazir Latif (Sitara e Jurrat), General Iftikhar Janjua (Died Fighting for Pakistan in 1971 War at the rank of Major General!!!), Mahesh Kumar Malani (Pakistani MNA), General Abdul Ali Malik (The war Hero of Chawinda front in 1965 war)

In modern world, Its not about name or mere religion by birth. Its all about Choices.The one Who choose to become my enemy and want my blood or blood of my brother is my enemy. No rocket science. Afghan King Invaded Newly formed state of Pakistan. Defied National boundary of Pakistan. Killed Countless of my Pakistani Pashtuun brothers in frontier region when afghans had power and we were weak. For what? Unjustified claim over Pakistani Land,(Pakistan never claimed any Afghan Land). It is not according to Islamic teaching if you think repelling and Killing an invader is not allowed if he is a Muslim.
No ,Afghan is not your brother merely because he is called Muhammad Afzalzai unless he leaves his unjustified claim over Pakistani Lands and accept our Border instead of leaving no chance to kill Pakistanis and create trouble in our border be it Baluch nationalists, Tribal Religious Extremists, PTM like Pashtuun Separatists.

I would put my trust in General Julian Peter instead of General Abdul Razzaq and if you are wise my brother and love your family you would do the same.
Choose Mahesh Kumar Malani over Assadudin Awaisi any day

To make things more simple. I would choose the Land owner Jew of Madina who use to employ many Poor Muslims on his agricultural Lands and remained loyal to the government of Prophet Muhammad SAW and Caliphs till his death and the Christian Slaves who fought alongside the Muslim Government Armies over the Muslims who declared war on Caliphate right after Death of Prophet Muhammad SAW at the first chance they got.

Thanks, Brother,
Now let us see what is the idea of government in Islam? The government in Islam is for Quran and the state can never be an end in itself, it is only a means to an end and that end is the establishment of "Din", i.e. the Islamic way of life which includes every aspect of man's existence. The government is not for the advancement of any race or nation or any section of humanity to the detriment of any other class or section or individual but for the
good of all( Aren't we see such example in Pakistan, there's an imbalance of power, Mainstream Community race suppressing minority race community, period. aren't we forgetting the treatment with Bengali? Where is Islam now and then in Pakistan ). The Prophet Mohammad (S.A.W.) and the first four caliphs had proved this idea to be attainable.
The Quran repeatedly warns against the consequences of corruption and injustice and gives examples of how the decline of mighty empires and prosperous communities was brought about by their misdeed. we created injustice with Bengali Muslims in 1971 and Allah give us the punishment but we are still not learning and again repeating the same mistakes.
The main objective of Islamic law is man's righteousness individually and collectively. The Society must cooperate to follow the envisaged pattern of Islam This responsibility can be discharged by the state invested with the powers of (Amr) command and ( Nahy ) prohibition. A state which is administered in the name of God, as every state which claims to be Islamic should be,is bound to safeguard the interests of all, the poor and the rich,the minorities as well as the majority community. This can be made possible only by promoting the right conduct and suppressing injustice and corruption. This was the guiding principle of administration in the days of the Prophet and the first four caliphates.

Allama Iqbal thinks that undoubtedly there should be harmonious adjustment ethics and politics in any system of government. The state is no doubt a human institution for the good of mankind. Morality and state are, therefore, concomitant.

do we have Toleration in Pakistan? Having completed the task of organizing the Muslims into a social polity, the Prophet of Islam next diverted his attention to the incumbent task of providing protection to the newly formed community from the Quraish who did not give up the idea of destroying the Muslims. Therefore, it became imperative to consolidate the position of the community within Madina itself which was then inhabited also by a large number of Jews.
The hand of friendship was extended to them, and treaties of mutual security and defence were entered into, guaranteeing them equal civil rights, freedom of religion and mutual protection against external aggression, in return for their recognition of the Prophet Mohammad (S.A.W.) as the paramount executive, military and judicial authority. Thus the city-state of Madina came into being as a political entity by making a contract with the Jews - which is known as the first charter of toleration ever made in human history.
Some of its clauses are as under :
(1) Whosoever of the Jews follow us, shall have aid and succour; they shall not be injured, nor shall any enemy be aided against them

It is now obvious that in Islam life is presented as a harmonious whole and church and state are not differentiated. That is there is no racism in Islam. It is, therefore, imperative for the government to establish virtue and prohibit evil. are we practicing something Pakistan, if we are then why so much unrest with a minor community and why east Pakistan people suffered from the mainstream community?

اللہ تعالی جنرل حمیدگل کو جنت الفروس میں اعلی مقام عطا فرمائے امین یا رب العالمین

 

[925boy]

The way some of YOu Pakistanis hate Afghanistanis, i think it says more about you than Afghans.

The hate im seeing Muslim Pakistanis gives Muslim Afghanistan, it seems comparable to how Pakistanis view Hindu India....so i feel the problem is with Pakistanis- some of you REALLY hate all your neighbors, so im beginning to feel its Pakistanis who are more hateful towards others and not the other way around. some of u need to do better and have more of a heart. Pakistan is NOT innocent when it comes to the mess in Afghanistan.

 

[thunderr]

The way some of YOu Pakistanis hate Afghanistanis, i think it says more about you than Afghans.

The hate im seeing Muslim Pakistanis gives Muslim Afghanistan, it seems comparable to how Pakistanis view Hindu India....so i feel the problem is with Pakistanis- some of you REALLY hate all your neighbors, so im beginning to feel its Pakistanis who are more hateful towards others and not the other way around. some of u need to do better and have more of a heart. Pakistan is NOT innocent when it comes to the mess in Afghanistan.

We don't hate afghans , lately they ave become namak Haram.They are living in our country since 70s era .As far as you ppl are concerned we know how much you love us but trust me we don't hate afghanis more than you ppl

 

[Zhukov]

The way some of YOu Pakistanis hate Afghanistanis, i think it says more about you than Afghans.

The hate im seeing Muslim Pakistanis gives Muslim Afghanistan, it seems comparable to how Pakistanis view Hindu India....so i feel the problem is with Pakistanis- some of you REALLY hate all your neighbors, so im beginning to feel its Pakistanis who are more hateful towards others and not the other way around. some of u need to do better and have more of a heart. Pakistan is NOT innocent when it comes to the mess in Afghanistan.

First read the geopolitical history of the region then come up with these love hate theories. Countries are not people who love or hate some one because of nationality. Afghans claim our sovereign lands that have undisputed acceptance by whole world (Lands adjoining Pakistan Afghan border). They don't accept International Border. They Invaded Pakistan and Incited Insurgency in those areas right after our independence. A Useless Misadventure that they are perusing. Note that Pakistan lay no claim on any Afghan lands. Then they whole heartedly and openly supported Baloch SEPARATISTS during 70s which they had no business in. And then just after 9 years of 1971 tragedy in which Soviet and Indian backed East Pakistan was separated, These Crumbling Afghans Murdered their President and directly Invited the Soviet forces on our borders. Radio Kabul started broadcasting tantrums of destroying Pakistan propaganda and so on. Pakistan was Sand witched with India on Eastern Border and Soviet forces on west in Cold war. We did what we had to do. We Destroyed the Red Factions of Afghanistan. Once they start becoming a neutral country and stop siding openly with any enemy of Pakistan they can find Soviet Union, Islamic State, India, Pakistani Separatists and so on. and leave there medieval fantasies of ruling over Peshawar we will be their best friends. We are happy with our current border and don't want any part of Afghanistan.
Even your Indian Government lay no claim to any undisputed Pakistani territory and vice versa we don't lay claim to any internationally recognized Indian Sovereign Territory. In a sense Problem with Afghanistan is even more severe then India.
Pakistan had no problem with Iran infact Pakistan was a staunch ally of Iran untill the radical Mullahs Took over Iran and they are irritants to the whole middle east not just us, As a metter of Fact Pakistan have the most normal relations with Iran of all its neighbors.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Get every damn afghani OUT

brothers lol, my foot. jaahil dunger ganwaar afghans...ridiculous tribal non sense, backward and retarded

and make sure the afghan scums don't come back into pakistan. actually seal the flippin border

That sounds exactly like the rhetoric used by British ring-wingers for Pakistani Britishers like yourselves.

Hypocrites.

 

[Green Arrow]

Bus travel from Peshawar to Turkey.

 

[alibaz]

it seems all Afghans going back after 40 years

I am sure they must be people with valid visa cause they can come back without any issues.

 

[ghazi52]

Businessmen hail decision to open Torkham, Chaman borders

The Frontier Post

May 17, 2020


PESHAWAR (APP): Pakistan government has announced opening of Pak-Afghan border at Torkham and Chaman posts round the clock – six days per week, reads a notification issued by Ministry of Interior, issued on late Friday night.

The border was closed on March 27. 2020 as a precautionary measure to contain spread of COVID-19 virus. Later it was opened for three days a week in April. The decision about opening of border was taken in the meeting of NCOC (National Command and Operation Center), says the notification.

Both the borders will remain open 24/7 for six days except from Saturday which will be reserved for pedestrian move only as per procedure already in vogue. Standard Operating Procedures (SOPs), as applicable for air passengers, will be implemented for pedestrians as well, adds the notification.

During six days when the border will be open, unlimited number of trucks will be allowed to cross per day while ensuring proper SOPs and guidelines for both Afghan Bilateral Trade and Afghan Transit Trade.

The decision has been hailed by business community terming at as a milestone in promotion of trade between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Former Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Provincial candidate from PK 105, and Convener FPCCI for Afghanistan and Central Asian Countries Trade Committee Shahid Khan Shinwari when contacted, he told APP that they worked day and night for the opening of the border since he was appointed FPCCI Convener for Afghanistan and Central Asian Trade.

He also thanked to Afghan businessmen delegations, officials of the Afghanistan Border Force who held meeting recently at Torkham border with delegation from Pakistan including businessmen, people from the trade and officials of the Border Security Force from both sides and discussed ways and means to make ensure enhancement of bilateral trade ties between two brotherly and neighboring countries Pakistan and Afghanistan.

He along with people from the trade and businessmen communities had several meetings with the concerned officials to ease the closure of Torkham border due to Corona and gradually resume business activities. “Our efforts worked and Prime Minister’s Secretariat issued with a clear reference to his two meetings,” he informed.

About the recent meeting at Torkham on Thursday last, Shahid Khan disclosed that the Pakistani delegation included Sector Commander Brigadier Shaukat, Commandant Khyber Rifle Col. Bilal, Wing Commander Col. Abrar, Khyber Chamber leaders Col (retd) Muhammad Siddique Afridi, Syed Jawad Hussain Kazmi, Jaber Shinwari, Assistant Collector Customs Torkham Usman Aziz and other customs officials and NLC while from the Afghanistan side Commander Border Force of Afghanistan Kamsiyar Yousafzai, GM Torkham Afghan Gumrak, Haji Zalmai of Afghanistan Chamber of Commerce and prominent businessman Haji Bashir and other border officials of the Afghanistan attended.

He said Afghan government and the Afghan Embassy in Islamabad sent a written request to the Pakistani government regarding the re-operation of the Torkham border 24/7, early clearance of stranded trucks on both sides of the border and issues of more facilitation to the traders and businessmen at the border and the government responded positively to that request which further cemented the trade ties.

He said that Chief Minister Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Mahmood Khan has extended all out support to the traders of both the countries and that is why step has been taken by the government of Pakistan along with Afghanistan to reopen the Torkham Boarder 24/7 and will continue to support speeding up vehicle clearances.

He said, according to notification issued by the government of Pakistan, Torkham and Chaman borders will remain open six days a week (with weekends off), following vehicles should have to adopt the SOPs before crossing on both side Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Shahid Shinwari thanked Jawad Hussain Kazmi and Col. Siddique of Khyber Chamber of Commerce Group. Solutions to border issues, in particular, helped to ease the flow of visitors from both countries. It was a joint efforts and certainly it would boost trade between Pakistan and Afghanistan, Shahid added. Meanwhile, in a press statement issued here on Saturday, President Federation of Pakistan Chambers of Commerce and Industry (FPCCI), Anjum Nisar, Former President FPCCI and General Secretary of Businessmen Panel, Haji Ghulam Ali, Vice President FPCCI, Qaiser Khan Daudzai and Coordinator Regional Office Peshawar, Sartaj Ahmad Khan, said the decision will give impetus to commercial activity in the region.