Pakistan one of the least racist countries? Tell that to the Pakhtuns

[Spring Onion]

Bilour are just puppets of the pashtun establishment of an, regular hindko people don't even support them, it was bilour whom said he would go to war to rename nwfp and haji adeel who insults pak army and said muhajirs should be thrown into the sea, so these pashtnised hindko puppets are fake.

Pashtun establishment? and what is that and who is that ?

Bilour family has great political services and now it is time that Bilours should be given leadership of ANP. As far as political statements what is wrong in his statement about renaming? as far as statement about mohajirs or in true sense MQM walas well it is know that both MQM and ANP had been involved in mudslinging against each others. these so-called mohajir or MQM wals call entire Pashtun community terrorists so do not defend any.

as far as speaking against Army well everyone from Nawaz to Altaf Husaain insulted army so why single out adeel?

ANP is a anti state party, just go on twitter and watch their real thinking, they oppose anything in favor of Pakistan, whether kalabagh or CPEC or repatriation of afghan immigrants, they now even run a fascist Facebook page called 'justice for pas tuns' that spreads anti Pakistan propaganda

Afrasiab khattak is cooler amongst them, his own daughter is married to Punjabi but overall an and other ethnic parties are bad for pakistan

i do not bank on twitter and Facebook these social media sites are abused by all elements so you cant say who is behind it. I live here in KPK and know its politics very well. ANP is long neutralized party. they may come up with occasional gibberish aka politically heated speeches but they are very much localized political party.

Indeed any ethnic party be it ANP/MQM are bad for Pakistan

 

[Kolachi Punjabi]

Pashtun establishment? and what is that and who is that ?

Bilour family has great political services and now it is time that Bilours should be given leadership of ANP. As far as political statements what is wrong in his statement about renaming? as far as statement about mohajirs or in true sense MQM walas well it is know that both MQM and ANP had been involved in mudslinging against each others. these so-called mohajir or MQM wals call entire Pashtun community terrorists so do not defend any.

as far as speaking against Army well everyone from Nawaz to Altaf Husaain insulted army so why single out adeel?



i do not bank on twitter and Facebook these social media sites are abused by all elements so you cant say who is behind it. I live here in KPK and know its politics very well. ANP is long neutralized party. they may come up with occasional gibberish aka politically heated speeches but they are very much localized political party.

Indeed any ethnic party be it ANP/MQM are bad for Pakistan

Pashtun establishment? and what is that and who is that ?

Bilour family has great political services and now it is time that Bilours should be given leadership of ANP. As far as political statements what is wrong in his statement about renaming? as far as statement about mohajirs or in true sense MQM walas well it is know that both MQM and ANP had been involved in mudslinging against each others. these so-called mohajir or MQM wals call entire Pashtun community terrorists so do not defend any.

as far as speaking against Army well everyone from Nawaz to Altaf Husaain insulted army so why single out adeel?



i do not bank on twitter and Facebook these social media sites are abused by all elements so you cant say who is behind it. I live here in KPK and know its politics very well. ANP is long neutralized party. they may come up with occasional gibberish aka politically heated speeches but they are very much localized political party.

Indeed any ethnic party be it ANP/MQM are bad for Pakistan

ANP and MQM should just be banned, anybody who have sympathy with them should just be deported from Pakistan.

Renaming nwfp to kpk which is a racist name, is an insult to all the minorities of the frontier province and pashtun establishment I meant the pashtun rulers of an, damn auto correct.

When altar and nawaz speak against army its very different from when haji adeel or or other pashtun nationalists, the farmers only do so for politcal point scoring whereas pashtun nationalists Nate the army and always bring up 71 war to show our failures and mock our history but they don't even realize how bloody their history

 

[Kabira]

I have lived in Abbotabad for seven years and i have to say the Hindko belt is more developed and wealthy than majority of the districts of KPK. Kohistan is backward due to its remoteness. You have not been to southern districts of KPK, very poor and backward.

Peshawar valley is very densely populated, 9 million people, and very fertile lands, their politicians also ignore southern districts of KPK, as they do not get vote from there.

If you ask me, Hazara (east of Indus) was a distinct administrative unit under Mughals and attock was part of it. Sikhs also administered it separately from Peshawar. You people have justified demand for new province. But do demand Murree and attock from Punjab. Then you will see how much Nawaz shareef and PML_Q were/are sincere to cause of hazara province.

Attock is hinko speaking but Murre is part of Rawalpindi district even if they speak hinko. Mianwali is also hinko speaking. There is thin line between seraiki and hinko, and Mianwali seem to be hinko.

Any PML Q is in favor of more provinces, not only in KPK but also punjab. Only big parties like N are against it. Q hardly matter now days, they need more provinces and then they may come in to picture.

 

[Samandri]

I asked how many other pakistan races (and by that i meant a significant number) except pukhtoons are settled in KPK or Afghanistan , Lets see what you come up this time and if you cant and before calling karachietes racist .. apnay girayban main jhank .. the number will very explain the how tolerant are pukhtoons to others

Who is stopping you? come and settle in sandy tracts of my district. Buy land and open business and spend 20 hours without loads shedding with iqa duka customer.

There are even Biharis in town of my district, they arrived in 71 and sell samosa, pakorras etc. The gypsy type Punjabis come from Punjab to our areas , called 'charangian" by us and their women sell women's and kids stuff to houses. No body in my area harm them or do their "target killing". Go to Peshawar, your urdu speakers (settled in Peshawar since 1947) have opened the MQM office on GT road, no Pashtun has ever attacked or bothered them. I come across lot of urdu speakers of indian roots in Peshawar. Peshawar is not a business city of karachi level and is not a port city, it cant even support even the native population.

Those MQM-walas are very shameless and beghairat, what has truck and bus driver or corn-vendor done to them that they kill them and destroy their businesses?. They call themselves founders of Pakistan but founders of Pakistan were not bhata-khors and Muslijm league was not criminal mafia. Pakhtuns like Sardar Abdul Rab Nishtar or Pir of Manki Sharif were also founders of Pakistan and they were not leaders because of badmashi like MQM.

 

[SherayPunjab]

Who is stopping you? come and settle in sandy tracts of my district. Buy land and open business and spend 20 hours without loads shedding with iqa duka customer.

There are even Biharis in town of my district, they arrived in 71 and sell samosa, pakorras etc. The gypsy type Punjabis come from Punjab to our areas , called 'charangian" by us and their women sell women's and kids stuff to houses. No body in my area harm them or do their "target killing". Go to Peshawar, your urdu speakers (settled in Peshawar since 1947) have opened the MQM office on GT road, no Pashtun has ever attacked or bothered them. I come across lot of urdu speakers of indian roots in Peshawar. Peshawar is not a business city of karachi level and is not a port city, it can even support even the native population.

Those MQM-walas are very shameless and beghairat, what has truck and bus driver or corn-vendor done to them that they kill them and destroy their businesses?. They call themselves founders of Pakistan but founders of Pakistan were not bhata-khors and Muslijm league was not criminal mafia. Pakhtuns like Sardar Abdul Rab Nishtar or Pir of Manki Sharif were also founders of Pakistan and they were not leaders because of badmashi like MQM.

Oy luffy, tanda ho ja.

 

[Kabira]

the word has no real meaning. But dont know why other ethnic groups are desparate to adopt it

Bibi Khan title is not exclusive to one ethnic group, muslim zamindar in punjab adopted that title but never identified as pathans. Other titles include malik, chaudhry, etc who don't tell anything basically. My pardada name was Hakem Khan but next generation stopped using that title. Its usually associated with mirasis here now days. Some ignorant people like Rahat Fateh Ali Khan have claimed Afghanistan origin based on surname. But thats normal among certain people, there is christian in punjab assembly with surname Ghauri.

 

[SherayPunjab]

Bibi Khan title is not exclusive to one ethnic group, muslim zamindar in punjab adopted that title but never identified as pathans. Other titles include malik, chaudhry, etc who don't tell anything basically. My pardada name was Hakem Khan but next generation stopped using that title. Its usually associated with mirasis here now days. Some ignorant people like Rahat Fateh Ali Khan have claimed Afghanistan origin based on surname. But thats normal among certain people, there is christian in punjab assembly with surname Ghauri.

Khan title is equivalent to Malik, Chaudhry or Khanzaada title. It has nothing to do with origins. A pathan will spit on your face if you tell him he is descended from Mongols, even though Khan title is Mongol. The title just basically means leader of community.

 

[Kolachi Punjabi]

Who is stopping you? come and settle in sandy tracts of my district. Buy land and open business and spend 20 hours without loads shedding with iqa duka customer.

There are even Biharis in town of my district, they arrived in 71 and sell samosa, pakorras etc. The gypsy type Punjabis come from Punjab to our areas , called 'charangian" by us and their women sell women's and kids stuff to houses. No body in my area harm them or do their "target killing". Go to Peshawar, your urdu speakers (settled in Peshawar since 1947) have opened the MQM office on GT road, no Pashtun has ever attacked or bothered them. I come across lot of urdu speakers of indian roots in Peshawar. Peshawar is not a business city of karachi level and is not a port city, it can even support even the native population.

Those MQM-walas are very shameless and beghairat, what has truck and bus driver or corn-vendor done to them that they kill them and destroy their businesses?. They call themselves founders of Pakistan but founders of Pakistan were not bhata-khors and Muslijm league was not criminal mafia. Pakhtuns like Sardar Abdul Rab Nishtar or Pir of Manki Sharif were also founders of Pakistan and they were not leaders because of badmashi like MQM.

Urdu speakers in Peshawar? I wasn't aware of that, I heard all buses from India going to nwfp were turned back and not allowed to settle muhajirs, my mother side is muhajir and some of her relative migrate from Delhi to Peshawar but within. A year they move to Lahore because of it as difficult settling down

Maybe those Urdu speakers in Peshawar are posted by army or government

 

[Samandri]

Hazaras are demanding a seperate province and anp is not willing to accept it. ANP made an issue out of Kalabagh dam just because according to them Punjabis will benifit and Nowshera will drown (it drowned in floods without Kalabagh BTW) and yet they call others racists.

ANP's official stance is that Hazarewals should adopt legal course for separate province, through KPK assembly, just like they did in renaming.

The Kalabagh dam , not just ANP is against it but majority of Pashtuns of other parties are also opposing it, not for ethnic reasons but scientific . JUI-F of Maulana Fzalur Rehman has opposed it , JI wing of KPK has opposed it, pashtun members of PPP has opposed it, and even Pashtun members of PTI are against it. Our concerns are not baseless like Sindh, drowning of Nowshera is not the biggest concern, within decades entire Peshawar valley (Peshsawar, charsadda, mardan, swabi and nowshera) will suffer from salinity and water logging, making the most fertile and most productive lands of our province useless. The lake of dam will be in Kohat, making our already small province more smaller, while Punjab getting the Royalty. We can ignore the Royalty issue for country sake, our real concern is destruction of peshawar valley with dam, , the region has 9 million population and they depend upon agriculture .

 

[SherayPunjab]

ANP's official stance is that Hazarewals should adopt legal course for separate province, through KPK assembly, just like they did in renaming.

The Kalabagh dam , not just ANP is against it but majority of Pashtuns of other parties are also opposing it, not for ethnic reasons but scientific . JUI-F of Maulana Fzalur Rehman has opposed it , JI wing of KPK has opposed it, pashtun members of PPP has opposed it, and even Pashtun members of PTI are against it. Our concerns are not baseless like Sindh, drowning of Nowshera is not the biggest concern, within decades entire Peshawar valley (Peshsawar, charsadda, mardan, swabi and nowshera) will suffer from salinity and water logging, making the most fertile and most productive lands of our province useless. The lake of dam will be in Kohat, making our already small province more smaller, while Punjab getting the Royalty. We can ignore the Royalty issue for country sake, our real concern is destruction of peshawar valley with dam, , the region has 9 million population and they depend upon agriculture .

Interesting. Can you open a thread regarding the concerns of KPK people for Kalabagh dam with scientific facts? If there is one already, can you post the link? According to your statements, Kalabagh seems more of a nukhsaan than advantage.

 

[Psychic]

Attock is hinko speaking but Murre is part of Rawalpindi district even if they speak hinko. e.

People of Muree speak pahari language, which is a dilect of potohari language. To outsiders, it may sound like hindko but to us there are glaring differences between the two languages. Pahari is closer to potohari, infact the same is spoken in Muree,Ayubia,Pindi,Islamabad,Rawat,Kahuta and Gojar Khan.

 

[Samandri]

Urdu speakers in Peshawar? I wasn't aware of that, I heard all buses from India going to nwfp were turned back and not allowed to settle muhajirs, my mother side is muhajir and some of her relative migrate from Delhi to Peshawar but within. A year they move to Lahore because of it as difficult settling down

Source for your claim that Peshawar expelled Mohajirs from the city in 1947?. Indian Mohajirs preferred to settle mostly in Karachi, the capital and port city, Mohajirs mostly migrated for economic reasons so Karachi was best choice.

Urdu speakers are not just settled in Peshawer, you will also find them in other urban centers like Quetta, DI Khan, Bannu, Kohat, Mardan and Abootabad. In Peshawar ,an Indian Mohajir family were our neighbors, with Khan surnames. First their father introduced himself to us as Punjabis from Multan but they were not Punjabi speakers. Later his son told me that they are actually from India settled first in Multan and then Peshawar early 50s. Their mother was hindkowan. His son was MQM supporter, and i asked him about his roots on the occasion when he was praising altaf bhai.

 

[Kabira]

People of Muree speak pahari language, which is a dilect of potohari language. To outsiders, it may sound like hindko but to us there are glaring differences between the two languages. Pahari is closer to potohari, infact the same is spoken in Muree,Ayubia,Pindi,Islamabad,Rawat,Kahuta and Gojar Khan.

I know there are clear differences between pahari and hindko. So in murre they speak pahari, make sense.

 

[Psychic]

ANP's official stance is that Hazarewals should adopt legal course for separate province, through KPK assembly, just like they did in renaming.

The Kalabagh dam , not just ANP is against it but majority of Pashtuns of other parties are also opposing it, not for ethnic reasons but scientific . JUI-F of Maulana Fzalur Rehman has opposed it , JI wing of KPK has opposed it, pashtun members of PPP has opposed it, and even Pashtun members of PTI are against it. Our concerns are not baseless like Sindh, drowning of Nowshera is not the biggest concern, within decades entire Peshawar valley (Peshsawar, charsadda, mardan, swabi and nowshera) will suffer from salinity and water logging, making the most fertile and most productive lands of our province useless. The lake of dam will be in Kohat, making our already small province more smaller, while Punjab getting the Royalty. We can ignore the Royalty issue for country sake, our real concern is destruction of peshawar valley with dam, , the region has 9 million population and they depend upon agriculture .

I never heard of those disadvantages of KBagg dam before can you provide a source for your claims?

 

[Samandri]

I never heard of those disadvantages of KBagg dam before can you provide a source for your claims?

I did post the links on threads relevant threads to kalbagh dam, has to search for it again. It would better if i open a separate thread about it, would tag you there when i create it.