Penguin
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Yes you are right too. Although NESCOM, GIDS and SUPARCO along with other Public and Private corps should be working on developing Electrical/Electronics, Mechanical, Chemical and other equipment by doing R&D locally as well as with other countries like China and EU.
More over, PN has and had a great chance of bringing in close KSA, UAE, Oman, Yemen, Libya, Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco to start up a plan for:
5000 Tons Frigate
2500 Tons Corvette
1100 Tons FAC
0300 Tons Missile Craft
Although only KSA, Pakistan, Libya and Algeria would go for 5000 Frigate the rest will have all the other equipment other than this heavy frigate. We can design on our own by taking help from China, Japan/Korea and EU.
Also we need to work on Submarines together:
7000 SSBN
3500 SSKs
1600 SSKs
0700 SSKs - Coastal
0110 Special Force Submarine
Rescue Submarine
As if ...
1) An 1100 ton FAC !?!?!? FAC's typically dont go over 600 tons. This is rubbish
Looking at the modern ships of the respective navies:
2) Algeria already ordered 2x 3500 ton MEKO A200 (with an option for a further 2, to expand fleet capability) and 3x 2800 ton C28A (to place Soviet era Koni's) as well as a pair of 2000 ton Russian 20382.Kilo Class 877EKM It has 2 Kilo class 877EKM, 2 Kilo class 636M, with 2 more on order. Why on earth would they need to develop 5000 ton and 2500 ton ships? Or subs?
3) Morocco already operates a 6000-7000 ton FREMM frigate. It has three SIGMA frigates from the Netherlands, in 2 variations (a pair of 2075 ton Sigma 9813 and a single 2350 ton Sigma 10513). It has no submarines service. Why on earth would they need to develop 5000 ton and 2500 ton ships?
4) The Tunisian Navy is a coastal defence force without the submarine or major combatant capabilities deployed by its neighbours. The Tunesian navy numbers for 2008 were about 4,800 personnel, operating 25 patrol boats and 6 other crafts. Their largest surface combattants are 9 FACs of around 400 ton.Combattante III, Type 143B. It has no submarine service. The country is in transition and is in no way to afford any of the above mentioned ships or boats. Nor man them.
5) The Libyan navy went from 2 Koni 'frigates' in 2006 to 1 in 2012, 2 Nanuchka's in 2006 to none in 2012, 9 (7 operational) combattante II FAC in 2006 to none in 2012, 12 × (4 operational) OSA II FAC in 2006 to none in 2012.
9 × (5 operational) Natya class minesweepers (Type 266ME) in 2006 to 2 in 2012 (1 operational). In 1982 Libya received six Foxtrot-class military submarines from the USSR. However, since 1984, no submarine patrols are reported to have been conducted.In 2011, during the Libyan civil war, one submarine (along with a frigate and a corvette) was captured by the rebels at the Benghazi naval base. So 1 remains in 2012.The country is in transition and is in no way to afford any of the above mentioned ships or boats. Nor man them
6) The Yemeni navy is a 1700 person force, with 2 500t Tarantul 1 and 8 Osa missile boats. Some patrol boats and minesweepers. It has no submarine service The country is in no position to afford or man any of the above mentioned ships or boats. It is investing in modern patrol boats
7) Oman as recently as 2009-2011 acquired 3x 2650ton Khareef class corvette from UK, to supplement its 2 1850 ton Qahir class from the mid 1990s. These are supporte by 4 missile FACs and 3 fast patrol boats. It has no submarine service. Why on earth would they need to develop 5000 ton and 2500 ton ships? Or subs?
8) UAE has a small force of about 2,500 personnel that maintains well-equipped coastal patrol boats and missile boats (3x new 1650 ton Abu Dhabi class corvettes, 6x new 930 tons Baynunah corvettes 2x Lürssen 62 630 ton 'corvettes'; 6 Lürssen TNC-45 260 ton FAC, ). No submarines service.They have just invested in 6=3 new ships, and are in no need for expansion or upgrading.
9) KSA has 3x fairly new (2002-2004) 4725 ton frigates that are modified, enlarged versions of the French La Fayette class. Four frenchbuilt 2,610 tons frigate from the mid 1980s. It has 4 US-built 1100 ton missile corvettes from 1981–83. And 9 US-built 500ton missile armed patrol boats, from 1972-1980. Saudi Arabia wants to buy five German submarines for around €2.5 billion ($3.4 billion) and more than two dozen more in the future. It is eying a pair of Arleigh Burke destroyers plus a number of LCS from the US.
Dream on.