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[khanasifm]

 

[khanasifm]

Yup z-9 type for anti surface/sub perhaps along with sar and with firefighting equipment and ssm the ciws may be Phanix off type 21 or not sure what type on the model but since pn is taking care of it so could be Chinese or local off type 21

I am guessing since US equipment of type 21 ie harpoon and ciws /phallinix cannot be transfer to Chinese type so mostly Turkish and damen ships will get those systems , guessing

Look like peace time msa duty and war time ssm /navy duty

 

[fatman17]

17 FEBRUARY 2020 NEWS

Pakistan Navy commissions Damen-built offshore patrol vessel


The Pakistan Navy has commissioned a 2,300t Corvette PNS YARMOOK (F-271) offshore patrol vessel (OPV) built by Damen in a ceremony held at Constanta Port in Romania.

Following a tender process, the company signed the contract with the Pakistan Ministry of Defence Production (MoDP) for the construction of two multipurpose OPVs for the navy in June 2017.

The second vessel PNS TABUK (Designate) will be delivered by Damen in May this year.

PNS YARMOOK, which was constructed by Damen at its yard in Galati, can carry out various maritime operations and is capable of transporting both a helicopter and an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV).

The ship is based on a Damen OPV 1900 and can accommodate two twenty-foot equivalent units (TEUs) for special mission-based operations.

It can also launch two high-speed rigid hull inflatable boats (RHIBs) of 11.5m and 6.5m at a time.

Pakistan Navy vice-chief Muhammad Fayyaz Gilani said that both vessels will significantly improve the navy’s capability to safeguard its maritime borders.

The 55ha Galati yard has built nearly 40 vessels for the defence and security segment.

It built the last seven complex naval vessels for the Royal Netherlands Navy and the Stefan cel Mare OPV for the Romanian Border Police.

Damen launched the second OPV for the Pakistan Navy at its shipyard in September last year.

In October 2018, the Pakistan Navy commissioned a domestically built 17,000t fleet tanker named PNS Moawin, which is claimed to be the biggest ship ever constructed at Karachi Shipyard & Engineering Works.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Good strategy PN keep calling corvettes offshore patrol vessels so the usual powers trying to block weapons sales to Pakistan stay sound asleep.

*patsPNonback*

 

[ghazi52]

To celebrate International Day of Military Sports, Pakistan Navy conducted CISM Day Run 2020 at Jinnah Stadium, Islamabad. The day is celebrated worldwide to promote sports in Military context & bringing the sports community together. Officers & personnel from Pak Army, Pak Navy & PAF participated.

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[fatman17]

PN Marines

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Good strategy PN keep calling corvettes offshore patrol vessels so the usual powers trying to block weapons sales to Pakistan stay sound asleep.

*patsPNonback*

'Corvette' and 'OPV' are empty terms now. Damen flatly said it built the Yarmouk-class to 'commercial standards,' so it's a standard-fare steel hull with steel superstructure design. The PN could've gotten that from anyone, even the US (e.g., Swiftships). The key is to ensure there are no ITAR-restricted items in the program, which is the crucial mistake Swiftships made with the Swift Corvette by looping in Lockheed Martin for the CMS. If given a second chance, Swiftships won't make the same mistake.

As for the weapons, we can source the most destructive parts domestically (AShM/LACM), while the less brazen ones (e.g., cannons, turrets, torpedoes, etc) are available at low-cost abroad.

I think the really interesting thing would be if we could take these low-cost designs a step further and add VLS to them. If we can roll-out a 1,500 to 2,000-ton "corvette" with AShW, ASW and AAW for less than $100 m per ship, then we'd have a solid fleet-builder asset.

 

[CHI RULES]

'Corvette' and 'OPV' are empty terms now. Damen flatly said it built the Yarmouk-class to 'commercial standards,' so it's a standard-fare steel hull with steel superstructure design. The PN could've gotten that from anyone, even the US (e.g., Swiftships). The key is to ensure there are no ITAR-restricted items in the program, which is the crucial mistake Swiftships made with the Swift Corvette by looping in Lockheed Martin for the CMS. If given a second chance, Swiftships won't make the same mistake.

As for the weapons, we can source the most destructive parts domestically (AShM/LACM), while the less brazen ones (e.g., cannons, turrets, torpedoes, etc) are available at low-cost abroad.

I think the really interesting thing would be if we could take these low-cost designs a step further and add VLS to them. If we can roll-out a 1,500 to 2,000-ton "corvette" with AShW, ASW and AAW for less than $100 m per ship, then we'd have a solid fleet-builder asset.

Sir is it possible to arm Yarmuk in near future with FM90N SAMs expected to be removed from F22P frigates as reportedly they shall also have VLS during mid life upgrades.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Sir is it possible to arm Yarmuk in near future with FM90N SAMs expected to be removed from F22P frigates as reportedly they shall also have VLS during mid life upgrades.

You might need to replace the CIWS to make that possible. Best case scenario with the Yarmouk-class is installing a smaller pedestal SAM (e.g., Stinger-based). Otherwise, you need to design the ship to house SAMs from the start.

 

[Tank131]

Sir is it possible to arm Yarmuk in near future with FM90N SAMs expected to be removed from F22P frigates as reportedly they shall also have VLS during mid life upgrades.

You might need to replace the CIWS to make that possible. Best case scenario with the Yarmouk-class is installing a smaller pedestal SAM (e.g., Stinger-based). Otherwise, you need to design the ship to house SAMs from the start.

Well there is a couple things regarding Yarmook that need to be cleared up. #1 why was the rear starboard CIWS placed in that location? It seems it would only have a 180 degree arc of fire. #2, what will go on the pedestal on the top of the bridge? Is it an eggdome radar? Is it another CIWS? Is it an 8 cell PDMS? I cant say for sure, but it i suspect it will be an AK630. If it is not a CIWS, then the ship will only be protected in the back half. Beyond this, with respect to missile systems, you could see a pedestal style MANPAD like the Mistral based SIMBAD-RC or Igla based 3M47 Gibka or Komar, but i wish they would go for a system like TOR 2MKM which can be temporarily lashed to the deck above the hangar and allows for 16 missiles fired in VLS fashion with range of 15km, and are specifically designed to take out supersonic missiles. In peacetime operations the Tor 2MKM can be removed from the ship as it is designed to be lashed to decks whenever and wherever needed. This system should also be sought to replace the crotales systems in PA and PAF service as it is far more capable system.

 

[CHI RULES]

Well there is a couple things regarding Yarmook that need to be cleared up. #1 why was the rear starboard CIWS placed in that location? It seems it would only have a 180 degree arc of fire. #2, what will go on the pedestal on the top of the bridge? Is it an eggdome radar? Is it another CIWS? Is it an 8 cell PDMS? I cant say for sure, but it i suspect it will be an AK630. If it is not a CIWS, then the ship will only be protected in the back half. Beyond this, with respect to missile systems, you could see a pedestal style MANPAD like the Mistral based SIMBAD-RC or Igla based 3M47 Gibka or Komar, but i wish they would go for a system like TOR 2MKM which can be temporarily lashed to the deck above the hangar and allows for 16 missiles fired in VLS fashion with range of 15km, and are specifically designed to take out supersonic missiles. In peacetime operations the Tor 2MKM can be removed from the ship as it is designed to be lashed to decks whenever and wherever needed. This system should also be sought to replace the crotales systems in PA and PAF service as it is far more capable system.

Sir FM90 despite limited range is reported to be capable to counter modern threats. PN should try to install same on lighter ships, meanwhile F22P should have VLS. PA has already inducted HQ7b and PN FM90. For some reason despite news Pakistan has still not got any specific defence related tech from Russia except transport helis, few Mi35 and perhaps ground based radar for safety of some particular installation.

There are some systems introduced by China combining CIWS and missiles.

 

[Tank131]

Sir FM90 despite limited range is reported to be capable to counter modern threats. PN should try to install same on lighter ships, meanwhile F22P should have VLS. PA has already inducted HQ7b and PN FM90. For some reason despite news Pakistan has still not got any specific defence related tech from Russia except transport helis, few Mi35 and perhaps ground based radar for safety of some particular installation.

There are some systems introduced by China combining CIWS and missiles.

I agree FM90 is an option, but only because PN already operates it. It has some major problems, not least of which is it only has 8 missiles. Reloading is manual in small ships like Yarmook and even medium size ships like F-22P. The other major drawback is the size and weight of the unit and the issue of its permanency. The soze and weiggt of the FM90 will preclude it from being installed anywhere on Yarmook without moving the main gun. Structural changes defeats the purpose of this ship. It also has only dirctional firing capability meaning only a specific firing arc. TheTor M2KM has the same range as FM90 (15km) but has some advantages.
1. It is a mobile system that ca. Be deployed anywhere as long as it has the space needed (2.5m x 7m) which wouod alow it to fit above the hangar. It is a self contained unit (no structural changes for the rotation mechanism need to be done below deck). It is temporary if necessary, it can be lashed to the deck when needed (times of war when the ship functions as a corvette) and removed when not needed (peace time when it functions as an opv).

2. It carries 16 missiles vs 8 of FM90
3. It provides 360 degree protection due to VL nature of the system.

I get it may be difficult to acquire, but PN should try. Especially if getting more Damen OPV1900s (i have heard anywhere from 2-4 more ships). They can also be used for the PMSA 1500t cutters which can also host missiles like SSM during wartime and be corvettes. This would give them self defense capability. Getting 10-12 such systems may change the difficulty in acquiring them.

 

[Rehan khan 1]

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I have a Question. there is lot of space on this ship's decks why cant a medium range sam launchers be set up the same way as anti ship missiles. i dont mean VLS

 

[The Eagle]

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COMKAR R/ Adm Zahid Ilyas has been promoted to the rank of Vice Admiral. The Admiral got commission in Ops Branch of Pak Navy in 1988, is a graduate of PNWC, NDU & has also done professional courses from China & UK.

In recognition of his services, the Adm was awarded HI (M) & S.Bt

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Cdr Coast R/ Adm Faisal Rasul Lodhi has been promoted to the rank of Vice Admiral. The Adm got commission in Ops Branch of #PakNavy in 1986, is a graduate of PNWC, NDU & has done professional courses frm UK & Philippines.

In recognition of his services, the Adm was awarded HI (M)

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