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[fatman17]

Command & Staff Conference of Pakistan Navy held at NHQ. Matters related to Operational preparedness& prevailing security situation and training &welfare of troops were reviewed. Briefings on various ongoing&future projects and plans were also given to CNS https://t.co/gQMHO8Xzs1 https://t.co/xl1coXskYy

 

[ghazi52]

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[Tipu7]

Per navy official news 2 plus 2 =

https://www.navyrecognition.com/ind...4a-frigates-from-china-for-pakistan-navy.html


4 x type 054ap
4x Turkish ship
2x damen ship

Pn will Decom 4x type21

Possible Surface fleet of PN by 2025.
4 Type-54AP
4 F22 P
3 Ada class
3 Jinnah class
2 Damen class
1 OHP (PN is interested in surplus 3 more OHPs from USN stocks)

 

[Fieldmarshal]

Their is no 2025.....we need them now !

Leasing is the best and the only option

 

[TsAr]

Their is no 2025.....we need them now !

Leasing is the best and the only option

Only leasing option in my opinion would come from China.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

We would have to pick up retiring ships from Europe or China for interim use on Lease

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

https://www.defenseworld.net/news/2...ter_Commissioning_2_New_Warships#.XWqT0ShKhPY
May 18, 2019

Chinese Navy Retires 4 Destroyers Days After Commissioning 2 New Warships

Official media identified the decommissioned ships as the guided-missile destroyers Kaifeng (Hull 109), Dalian (Hull 110), Zunyi (Hull 134) and Guilin (Hull 164) All of the four destroyers had been in service for more than 30 years.


Pick up the 4 ships till type054 arrive


These 4 frigates are just parked in china just decommissioned in May 2019 , 2 months ago

Just send a delegate and purchase them for gawadar port

 

[nomi007]

https://www.defenseworld.net/news/2...ter_Commissioning_2_New_Warships#.XWqT0ShKhPY
May 18, 2019

Chinese Navy Retires 4 Destroyers Days After Commissioning 2 New Warships

Official media identified the decommissioned ships as the guided-missile destroyers Kaifeng (Hull 109), Dalian (Hull 110), Zunyi (Hull 134) and Guilin (Hull 164) All of the four destroyers had been in service for more than 30 years.


Pick up the 4 ships till type054 arrive


These 4 frigates are just parked in china just decommissioned in May 2019 , 2 months ago

Just send a delegate and purchase them for gawadar port

Better to lease latest chinese destroyers not these junks

 

[fatman17]

Continue... SHAMSHEER-E-BAHR VII is the Flagship war game of #Pakistan #Navy held biennially; wherein, tri-services & selective ministries participate. (2/2) https://t.co/ag9H299Sv3 https://t.co/WEhKXP6flc

 

[fatman17]

Opening Session of #PakistanNavy War game SHAMSHEER-E-BAHR VII & logistic exercise TARSEEL-E-BAHAR II held at #Karachi today. President of #Pakistan, Dr Arif Alvi graced the occasion as Chief Guest. (1/2) https://t.co/ag9H299Sv3 https://t.co/EJkLMiDHi2

 

[Tank131]

Possible Surface fleet of PN by 2025.
4 Type-54AP
4 F22 P
3 Ada class
3 Jinnah class
2 Damen class
1 OHP (PN is interested in surplus 3 more OHPs from USN stocks)

I think getting 3 Jinnah class AND 3 Ada will be too much of a tall task by 2025. Frankly, i think there wont be an Ada per se. With the models of PN MILGEM with a 12 cell VLS i think these will be the Jinnah class. I think initially PN was to do this in 2 stages but now I think they will just go for Jinnah from start.

As far as OHP go, i doubt this will happen. IF, they do want to get them however, i would say go for Adelaides instead. There are 3 remaining (the rest have been scuttled to make dive reefs). However the Adelaides have their MK13 launchers intact. The can be used for Harpoon or SM-2. They also have 8 cell Mk41s for essm. PN could install an i cell sylver A50 for Alamghir and try for either essm or sea-ceptor (CAMM). Then put them all through the GENESIS upgrade. They would be among the most potent ships in Arabian sea.

 

[Armchair]

These ships are going to be like the battleships of WWII. Technology has changed but thinking has not.

If you build a simple UUV (unmanned submarine), a simple small vessel that can take a one way trip to India's major Western ports, you can arm them with 4x torpedoes and 4x mines. They would cause major havoc for the IN and keep them down and out during a war.

Similarly, if you invest in a squadron of JH-7As, they will sink Indian ships and threaten India's Southern Command. They will turn the Arabian Sea into a repeat of the Falklands War.

But these out of the box, innovative solutions that would utilize current technology paradigms will not be accepted. At the cost of losing the coming war, the PN will continue to buy overpriced boats that will be saturated with Brahmos cruise missile from range.

Maybe PN just wants to look pretty like a swan and then lie on the ocean floor. Their ego is too big or their minds are not contemporary enough to understand such solutions. @MastanKhan

 

[Tipu7]

These ships are going to be like the battleships of WWII. Technology has changed but thinking has not.

Which ships?

If you build a simple UUV (unmanned submarine), a simple small vessel that can take a one way trip to India's major Western ports, you can arm them with 4x torpedoes and 4x mines. They would cause major havoc for the IN and keep them down and out during a war

USVs tech has yet to mature.
And naval warfare is not about invading enemy naval yards with suicidal missions. Rather it will be idiotic to expect that enemy will keep its vessels in yards during time of crisis.

Similarly, if you invest in a squadron of JH-7As, they will sink Indian ships and threaten India's Southern Command. They will turn the Arabian Sea into a repeat of the Falklands War.

JH7-A has mammoth RCS, poor engines, outdated avionics, poor availability rate, poor sortie rate and are very maintenance demanding. On one side you are talking about 'innovative' ideas, on other side you are 'suggesting' to move in backward direction by procuring an outdated aircraft with limited efficiency?

But these out of the box, innovative solutions that would utilize current technology paradigms will not be accepted. At the cost of losing the coming war, the PN will continue to buy overpriced boats that will be saturated with Brahmos cruise missile from range.

Wao!

Maybe PN just wants to look pretty like a swan and then lie on the ocean floor. Their ego is too big or their minds are not contemporary enough to understand such solutions.

O bhai, who are you?

 

[ghazi52]

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[CHI RULES]

I think getting 3 Jinnah class AND 3 Ada will be too much of a tall task by 2025. Frankly, i think there wont be an Ada per se. With the models of PN MILGEM with a 12 cell VLS i think these will be the Jinnah class. I think initially PN was to do this in 2 stages but now I think they will just go for Jinnah from start.

As far as OHP go, i doubt this will happen. IF, they do want to get them however, i would say go for Adelaides instead. There are 3 remaining (the rest have been scuttled to make dive reefs). However the Adelaides have their MK13 launchers intact. The can be used for Harpoon or SM-2. They also have 8 cell Mk41s for essm. PN could install an i cell sylver A50 for Alamghir and try for either essm or sea-ceptor (CAMM). Then put them all through the GENESIS upgrade. They would be among the most potent ships in Arabian sea.

Sir PN already has one OHP butt as per specs available on net it is armed with old Harpoons along with only air defense available is CIWS. So including this ship even in operational fleet is a big joke until and unless properly armed. Your comments on sole OHP of PN are welcomed.